Just how are you supposed to manage the DSG box when pulling off or reversing up a hill. The car rolls forward and back ( plenty to fail a driving test ) !! Are you supposed to use the handbrake in conjunction with DSG ? If so, won't this strain the gearbox?

just press accelerator and release handbrake simultaneously - it wont roll.

I used to have a Vauhall Omega auto and so long as the hill wasnt too steep you could select drive, release the handbrake and the car would simply hold its position until you pressed the accelerator.

Thanks Gareth. Do you also find that you gearbox clunks slightly when moving to Neutral from Drive? Sorry to be thick but this is the first 'automatic' I've had.

There will be a clunk as the system selects 1st gear and takes up drive.

I've had an Octy DSG for under 3 months so I'm no expert on DSG/automatics, but I can sometimes feel it going into gear when moving from neutral to drive, but not much of anything. I can't say I hear anything.

On the whole, changing gears is very smooth, although from 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd isn't always as smooth as 3rd onwards is.

Changing down gears is normally smooth, but the engine braking when "coasting" to a halt can be a bit severe/unexpected when it changes down from 3rd to 2nd. You'll be slowing down, with the foot off the pedal, when it changes down to 2nd (smoothly), then you get the engine braking suddenly kick in and you come to an abrupt "halt".

Is this just me?

Thanks, no it's not just you jrp, I get the same. As you say, on the whole it's very smooth and trouble free. As you say 1st to 2nd is noticeable but overall I'm very glad I got a DSG not a manual as it's so easy to drive and fuel economy with high fourties to 50 MPG average on country roads is great. Only thing I have noticed is that you have to break that little bit harder when coming to a stop as the gearbox tries to drive forward. Guess it's just getting used to a different style of driving.

Remember the DSG isnt an automatic box so dont expect it to behave like one, it just wont, it cant.

driving dsg to its best can take a wee while to get used to - but well worth the effort.

Must say I tend to use the handbrake on hill starts but left foot braking can be equally effective.

That is how I do it using the left foot to brake and this was how I learned to drive autos many moons back. However using the handbrake will cause no problems to the box or you brakes, after all it should be the way you were taught to drive!

Exactly: left-foot braking a la police Class 1 driving is the way to get the best out of the DSG box: head, shoulders and torso above other "normal" automatics!

Exactly: left-foot braking a la police Class 1 driving is the way to get the best out of the DSG box: head, shoulders and torso above other "normal" automatics!

But that wont work. The ECU knows you have braked and cuts the throttle - In which case you're best of braking with your right foot..

Are police class 1's taught to use LFB? :eek:

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But that wont work. The ECU knows you have braked and cuts the throttle - In which case you're best of braking with your right foot..

I didnt think it did on a DSG.

I didnt think it did on a DSG.

I think Goochie is referring to the boost dump (or what ever it is) that you get when you left foot break in

I find that I very rarely have to use the handbrake, if you lift your boot off the brake slightly the clutch starts taking the strain, if you lift it off quickly then you do roll, give it a go.

I must say that the comments about the clunky change and the change from nuetral only happned to me until about 20K Km's now it does not do it at all, same with the engine braking, I really noticed it too when I turned the cc off when it was new I felt an imediate slowiing, it was a bit rough, now it is hardly noticable. I love the DSG box, only worried about new clutches and the associated costs when it happens.

Yes there is a slight drag for example at traffic lights, if you do not apply the handbrake fully or hold it lightly on the foot brake, then the vehicle does creep forward.

I have only done 10,000 miles in the two years I took delivery, due to health problems, so my vehicle is still being run in and will probably only start to feel loose and right in the next 10,000.

That said I still rate this box as the best I have driven and that has been a good few over the years, I have long given up being a boy racer, but when you need to make the box work and respond it certainly cuts the mustard.

Try releasing the footbrake slowly. As you do the revs will come up to hold the car on the hill. My Octy always creeps forward whatever the slope

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I suspect John, the reason your vehicle does not creep or show the tendency to creep is because when using the foot brake you have all four wheels locked up where as the hand brake is only working on two wheels.

I deliberately tried applying the foot brake and running the engine revs gently up and found the vehicle was definitely trying to move forward, which would indicate the clutches engage even with the foot brake applied.

Has anyone used the Manual control of their DSG on a regular basis, I have never even tried it, but one of my sons used it so we know it works?

Has anyone used the Manual control of their DSG on a regular basis, I have never even tried it, but one of my sons used it so we know it works?

cann't say I use it that regularly. Thought I would when I bought the car as I do a lot of travelling on minor roads, but auto mode works so well I tend to leave there most of the time.

There is one bit of road I knock it across into manual almost daily - a round-a-boaut then a long incline where my 1.9 tends to hold 4th too long so I shift up manually and teh same bit of road in reverse where I use manual for a bit added engine breaking.

Also on farm tracks a bit so use manual to hold low gear.

I suspect John, the reason your vehicle does not creep or show the tendency to creep is because when using the foot brake you have all four wheels locked up where as the hand brake is only working on two wheels.

I deliberately tried applying the foot brake and running the engine revs gently up and found the vehicle was definitely trying to move forward, which would indicate the clutches engage even with the foot brake applied.

Has anyone used the Manual control of their DSG on a regular basis, I have never even tried it, but one of my sons used it so we know it works?

If you rev it up it will think you are trying to drive off - even with your foot on the brake. But if the engine is idling at 900-1,000 rpm it won't, because the clutch is disengaged. If your car is trying to move off at idle with your foot on the brake, something is out of adjustment and your 1st-3rd clutch will wear out, even if it is a wet clutch.

I repeat: with the engine at idle, take your foot off the brake with your foot off the accelerator and there will/should be a brief delay - no more than half a second, but quite noticeable - before the clutch engages and you start to creep forward.

Has anyone used the Manual control of their DSG on a regular basis, I have never even tried it, but one of my sons used it so we know it works?

I use it a lot of the time as hills sometimes "confuse" the DSG, and my town is all hills,lovely box though, as I do about 100 miles a day around town (guess what I do for a living ?) I've found it is more economical in manual.

Got the car in late Feb as a replacement for my old Octy (270,000 miles), it's already done 12,000 miles,so far really pleasedwith it, dread to think how much a replacement box is though and how much !.

Last time I had to order a DSG gearbos is was a tad under

I use it a lot of the time as hills sometimes "confuse" the DSG, and my town is all hills

Care to elaborate on this? What do you mean with "confuse"?