Question ultimately is: Do I just fit them and see what happens?

A little inside knowledge.

I have 8mm flat spacers from Eibach. These sit absolutely tight on the hub with no movement, so are a plumb 57.1mm diameter in the middle. When I offer up a bolt to the spacer, it also goes through the hole absolutely flush with no up/down wobble in the bolt.

So, with this in mind, here comes the issue. None of the middle of my wheel is going to be in contact with the remainder of the hub due to the spacer, and due to a very large indent/taper on the inside of the wheel (so even without the spacers only a bit of the hub usually sits inside the wheel)

I have a suspicion the wheel will be kept locked in place by the fact the spacer is tight on the hub, and the bolts going through the wheels will be tight through the spacer as well.

I have tried loads of tyre/alloy wheel shops and nothing seems to be out there that can fill the taper I have on the alloy. I need something with a 57.1mm bore, which tapers out to roughly 70mm in total. Had no joy yet.

What have other people done who've used non-hubcentric spacer kits?

without the wheel locating on the central spigot on the hub it is only the tension of the wheel bolts locating the wheel, and imho that is a danger waiting to happen...

i've seen a mk2 golf sheer off the wheel bolts on a corner because of that before

I've got to agree with Tom. Be very careful with all the torque you are producing I can see disaster ahead.

Are 8mm spacers the minimum you can get away with to clear the calipers Jason? I have some universal 5mm and 3mm ones if you want to try them for clearance, you could then buy better quality ones to actually fit to the car if they are sufficient to clear the wheel. At least you will then have a little spigot contact patch!

I really need something to fill the taper with, but every time I draw a blank. I might email a couple of the big allow wheel sellers around.

I've attached a fuzzy image of the back of the wheel to show the huge taper.

So is the problem that you need hub-centric spacers and that you can't find anywhere that does them?

So is the problem that you need hub-centric spacers and that you can't find anywhere that does them?

BINGO...

Hubcentric spacers are the ONLY ones you should consider...

anything else is dangerous...

im sure i had a place bookmarked that can make them to order... hell i rekon forge would if you asked them nicely

i'm sure eibach made hubcentric spacers?

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they do, but i see what you're saying - it's that big tapered section that's buggering things up

Because of the depth the spiggot comes off the hub, you can only get 10mm spacers with an extended spiggot, usually with 8mm spacers there would be just enough of the wheel sitting on the spiggot, but obvieously your wheels are differnt.

If you have clearnce you could go up to 10mm, then you would have the support!!!

i would deffinatly not run without the spiggot supported though, it could make the wheel come loose or be off center!!! :eek:

Luke

FK do various spacers, as do Eibach and plenty of others over on the continent.

With hub centric spacers, wouldn't that mean the spigot ring would need to be a different size?

You might be best to take this to a local engineering firm and see what they can machine up for you.

Or getting a set of 10mm spacers and macining the back face down 2mm could work!!!!

And should be a lot cheaper that way!

the spigot doesn't have to me made of metal tho... you can use plastic, iirc some of the early golfs had plastic spacers on the outside of the hub for the very same reason

So surely all I need is a spigot ring with a 57.1mm centre bore, and a taper to match the taper in the wheel? I don't think such a spigot ring exists, and I'm wondering how I can get around this.

I went for 8mm spacers as I didn't want to push the front wheels out too far, and 8mm is adequate for my evolos to clear my brembos.

But 10mm spacers (so the hub is fine - will it be fine?) machined back to 8mm on the face, but leaving the hub as-is.. would that work?

I don't see how a 10mm hubcentric will go over the hub, and leave a 57.1mm spigot still? The spigot on the hub is about 15mm in total.

I don't see how a 10mm hubcentric will go over the hub, and leave a 57.1mm spigot still? The spigot on the hub is about 15mm in total.

I've always wondered that myself, but as no-one else mentioned it I thought it couldn't have been an issue

Maybe they're made from some tardis-like metal? :P

This kind of "diagramatically" shows what I mean. I just need to do a taper filler, and it's got me wondering what I could use to DIY fill the taper.... something tough but a bit flexible.

I 10mm hub centric spacer will have exactly the same spigot on it as the standard hub it will just be 10mm further out.

I have some 15mm Eibach spacers that were turned down to 10mm. The only problem with turning 10's down to 8 is you probably wont have enough depth. They will bottom out on the spigot before sitting on the face of the brake disc.

A few pictures.

And remember what ever you add spacer wise you must also add to your wheel bolts.

I have the longer wheel bolts ready - just this issue with the huge taper on my 17s. :(

Well dont entirely undertand the thread but surely if you cant find them its mearly a question of getting a local machinst to make exactly what you want.

Well dont entirely undertand the thread but surely if you cant find them its mearly a question of getting a local machinst to make exactly what you want.

A metal ring with a 57.1mm internal bore and a taper. I could then glue this to the wheels with PU glue and it would bring the remaining spigot in contact with the wheel.

Arent the wheels genuine VW anyhow?

Arent the wheels genuine VW anyhow?

Yes - but the taper of the wheel is so great that the remaining spigot doesn't touch the start of the bore inside the wheel. That's what I need to fill.

I can see myself just saying "****** to it" and getting some 10mnm H&Rs off Sarah. I really like these 8mm Eibachs and they fit so well with the hub, and the bolts.

Right I think I understand your issue now. Because with the non hubcentric spacers you have lost the centre bore to mount your wheel. You looking for something to extend the centre bore into your wheels.

Im telling you its a very backwards and dangerous way to go about things. Spacers like the Eibachs above have TUV approval because they are safety tested. A bit of knocked up aluminium 'bonded' to your wheel wont be.

But hey they are only wheels and dont really do much so it doesnt matter if one should fall off.