Hello Boys and Girls, hope you are all jolly well and spiffing what what!!!!!

Question for the wise!

I've had my last 4 Cars tinted and now am about to give my octy some sunglasses! I think the law was only 25% Tint on the front Driver/Passenger and whatever you want on the back , but now it's nothing on the front, which in my view is stupid! does anyone know when the law changed and if it was in the last year can i say i got it done before the law change (My car is 1 year old now)if i get stopped will they tell me to take it out or will it be a fine??? i see a lot of cars still with front tint driving round.....

Cheers chaps, thinkin' caps on!!

I think you can still tint the fronts, BUT they must let 75% light through, hence the 25% tint. The issue comes because some oem tint already on the car gets close to this already, so you can only tint a fraction more.

If you are caught, and round by me chances are high as they are having a crackdown, a number of things can happen.

1) You get a 7 day rectification notice, you remove tint and MOT test station certified.

2) You get a vehicle prohibition notice, which means you cannot drive any further and the car must be recovered, tint removed and MOT test station certified.

3) You get prosecuted and fined/points for something, although I am not sure what.

JUST FOUND THIS.........(THIS CLEARS IT UP FOR ME)

IMPORTANT NOTICE

Window Tinting - Amendments to legislation

During the early part of 2004, Section 32 of the Road Vehicles (Construction & Use) Regulations will be amended to include “Window Tint Films” where such materials attached to the glass are capable of reducing the visible light transmission of forward windows to below prescribed levels (70% VLT for front side windows). These changes will be back-dated to become applicable from 1st January 2004.

This will effectively ban the practice in future of applying virtually any tinted films to windows forward of the B-Post on any vehicle that is to be driven on UK roads.

The reasons for these changes is the recent proliferation of vehicles that are excessively tinted. Some vehicles may be so heavily tinted that they present a real danger when used on public roads. The action being taken by the Government follows a fatality that occurred recently where a heavily tinted car was involved in a collision with a motorcycle and the window tints were held to blame due to the vision of the driver being impaired.

There is, however, a recognized difference between “light window tints” which may be considered safe for road use and “excessively dark window tints” which are not.

There has also been a great deal of debate in recent years about the legitimacy of window tints that do not obscure the vision of the driver. A clear case has been argued that road-safe window tints do not actually conflict with existing regulations. The Department of Transport have argued however, that Section 32 was always intended to cover materials attached to the glass, despite the fact that no mention of this is made in the Regulation itself. The only solution remaining would be to amend the Legislation.

Consequently and in order to clarify the solution the Government have finally decided to up-date the Regulations to specifically include Tinted Films since, in the view of the Police and the Department of Transport, this is the only way in which the problems of excessive tints can be remedied.

Unfortunately however, even tint films that maybe considered to be safe for road use will now be viewed as in conflict with the Regulations, enabling the Police and Vehicle Inspectorate to take action against vehicle owners.

This has significant implications for the owners of vehicles that have window tints and also those that are responsible for installing or selling window tints.

Implications for the Installer and Motor Retailer.

From when the amendments to Section 32 come into force, any Motor Retailer that sells a vehicle that has window tint films applied which reduce visible light transmission levels to below prescribed levels forward of the B-Post is committing an offence and runs the risk of prosecution under Section 75 of the 1988 Road Traffic Act with reference to Section 41 (which defers to Construction and Use Regulations).

In a similar way, anyone responsible for the fitment of window tints which reduce visible light transmission level to below prescribed levels on windows forward of the B-Post is committing an offence and can also be prosecuted under Section 76 of the 1988 Road Traffic Act.

Implications for the vehicle owner.

After much discussion, a sympathetic Enforcement Policy has been agreed between the Department of Transport and The Glass and Glazing Federation to ensure that all vehicle owners that have had tints applied in the past may be dealt with fairly. This applies in particular where the infringement is with respect to tints that do not pose a significant threat to Road Safety, despite being in contravention with the amended Regulations.

In any event, after the date of the amendment to Section 32, the owner of the vehicle that has window tints applied forward of the B-Post is liable to be challenged by either a Police Officer or by an Inspector from the Department of Transport Vehicle Inspectorate, where their vehicle is noticed being driven on Public Roads.

Where such a vehicle is stopped and the window tints applied are such that the visible light transmission level, when measured using an appropriate device, falls to below prescribed levels, the following enforcement guidelines have been agreed with and recommended by the Government.

Above 30% Visible Light Transmission (Less Severe Window Tints)

The owner or driver of such a vehicle will be required to have the tinted film removed from the windows under the direction of either a Rectification Notice or a Delayed Prohibition Notice, A period of grace will apply for a limited number of days (normally ten) during which time the vehicle may be driven whilst the rectification work is to be completed. In either case, the vehicle will need to be inspected by either a Police Officer or Vehicle Inspectorate Officer to confirm that the glass has been restored to a compliant condition. Prosecution is unlikely in such circumstances provided the vehicle owner complies fully.

Below 30% Visible Light Transmission (Excessively dark Window Tints)

The owner or driver of such a vehicle may be issued with an Immediate Prohibition Notice and immediately

prevented from driving the vehicle on public roads until the tints have been removed and either a Police Officer or Vehicle Inspectorate Officer confirms that the glass has been restored to a compliant condition. It is also possible, depending on the severity of the offence, that the owner may be prosecuted for driving a vehicle in a non-roadworthy or even a dangerous condition with the potential for Penalty Points and a Fine.

Driving such a vehicle on public roads before the tints have been removed and before a Prohibition Notice has been lifted will be a serious offence and the owner or driver is likely to be prosecuted.

Action that needs to be taken by the Window Tint Installer and Motor Retailer

Restrictions - From the beginning of 2004, all customers of a Window Tint Installer or a Motor Retailer that enquire about window tinting should be informed about the new Regulations. It will be unlawful to sell them a vehicle that has tints applied toward of the B-Post and may render the Tinter or Retailer liable to prosecution. The vehicle may also be deemed to be in a Non-Roadworthy condition leaving the owner liable to prosecution as well.

The owner of a vehicle that is in a non-roadworthy condition may find that they void their Insurance Cover if they continue to drive it on public roads. In the event of an accident, the Insurance Company may refuse to pay part or all of their claim.

Rectification - All Window Tint Installers and Motor Retailers that have supplied window tints toward of the B-Post are being asked by the Government and the Glass and Glazing Federation to contact all of their previous customers wherever possible, to inform them of the changes to Legislation and to offer them a chance to have their vehicle returned to have the front tints removed.

This is most important since this will give every customer a chance to become informed about the amendments to the Regulations whilst being able to change their vehicle into a compliant condition before they may be challenged in the future by a Policeman or an officer from the Vehicle Inspectorate.

Clear Security Films

Clear Security Films that only marginally reduce Visible Light Transmission levels on windows forward of the B-Post may be considered to be compliant with the amended Regulations subject to the quality of the fitment being to a standard that does not result in the vision of the driver being obscured in any way.

Just dont go crazy on the front........ i've gone darker on the back and a shade lighter on the front......... never been stopped in the year i have done it....

Just get it sorted! rules are to be broken!

Just dont go crazy on the front........ i've gone darker on the back and a shade lighter on the front......... never been stopped in the year i have done it....

Just get it sorted! rules are to be broken!

Erm no, knowing enough motorcyclists and cyclists, people have enough of a problem noticing them without darker windows. This goes even more so in lower light conditions.

Whatever tint your car comes with on the front, plus clear security film if you want that, and tints/tinted security film on the rear.

Erm no, knowing enough motorcyclists and cyclists, people have enough of a problem noticing them without darker windows. This goes even more so in lower light conditions.

Whatever tint your car comes with on the front, plus clear security film if you want that, and tints/tinted security film on the rear.

Have you ever driven a car with tinted windows? im sure we arent talking anything like limo tint here.

Looking out for bikes is just common sense - not how dark your windows are - or come to think of it, wearing sunglasses.

But im not trying to start a bun fight here. My opinion:thumbup:

Looking out for bikes is just common sense

Yup always an easy task in London, or on most Motorways as they pass you and that lorry using the whiteline.

NOW you see him, getting swiped by that lorry for riding like a ............

That advert grates me because more often than not the accidents are caused by irrisponsible riders. If you didn't see a good rider before you hit them, then you either need glasses, or your licence taken away from you.

Have you ever driven a car with tinted windows? im sure we arent talking anything like limo tint here.

Looking out for bikes is just common sense - not how dark your windows are - or come to think of it, wearing sunglasses.

But im not trying to start a bun fight here. My opinion:thumbup:

I have driven tinted cars, and at dusk etc bikes are not that easy to see, esp push bikes.

Sunglasses I take off in lower light levels, and yes tints are probably fine during the daylight.

Don't get me started on totally limo tinted cars.

Anyway I'd rather not be in a situation where a bike riding like a tit hits me, but because i am bending the law i end up with a book in my head. As you say though, each to their opinion.

I have driven tinted cars, and at dusk etc bikes are not that easy to see, esp push bikes.

Sunglasses I take off in lower light levels, and yes tints are probably fine during the daylight.

Don't get me started on totally limo tinted cars.

Anyway I'd rather not be in a situation where a bike riding like a tit hits me, but because i am bending the law i end up with a book in my head. As you say though, each to their opinion.

Fair enough bud