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Looking at the Skoda website - the 2.5 V6 TDI engine is no longer available - just the 2.8 V6 petrol. Does anyone know the reason why?

johannapam

It's a dog of an engine, thirsty, ruinously expensive to fix (cambelt) and uses an outdated fuel system (electronic Bosch VE).

It also makes an already nose-heavy car handle even worse.

Apart from that, when it's running OK, it's smooth and has lots of torque.

rotodiesel.

Looking at the Skoda website - the 2.5 V6 TDI engine is no longer available - just the 2.8 V6 petrol. Does anyone know the reason why?

johannapam

Have you read the thread from The Kick Inside - (Yes it's out of warranty so now it's going wrong) ??

:thumbdwn:

Looking at the Skoda website - the 2.5 V6 TDI engine is no longer available - just the 2.8 V6 petrol. Does anyone know the reason why?

johannapam

Because the new Superb is due very soon so they are reducing the number of available models of the old one.

Now that it has the PD140 as an option , the 2.5V6 is barely any faster , much slower and would only have sold 2 cars this year anyway.

The bit I don't get with these cars is how they are so expensive to buy S/H yet the PX value is awful, it just doesn't make any sense to me, you can buy a Passat for less than a Superb.

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I have read "The Kick inside" thread - what an appaling saga for a car only just out of warranty. I only hope that I get better service from Sherlodge if I have similar problems. I must say up to now i have nothing but positive comments to say about this dealer - let's hope i am never disappointed.

johannapam1

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Following on - before I bought this car all the magazines (What Car, Top Gear etc) raved about it and also recommended the only engine for performance and economy was the 2.5 V6. This was their preferred second hand buy. Interesting?

Maybe rather than read car magazine reviews (funded by the advertisers in the magazine), it might be better to see what owners of VW Transporters fitted with this engine have to say about it. Van operators can easily put on 50k miles in a year, so problems come to light much sooner.

rotodiesel.

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Fair point

John

Having Just Sold My 2.5 I Have To Come To It's Defence. As Roto Alludes To When Its Working It Is Nice. Mine Was Great For The 2.5 Years And Got Rid Before Cambelt Change Was Required. Really Smooth And Loads Of Torque. 40mpg Wasn't Bad Either

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That's just how I feel about mine - it's a great car - BUT??? I don't know what is around the corner as they say.

Regards

John

I think paranoia is creeping in here.

Why shouldn't a regularly serviced car that is looked after (oil, tyres etc checked) keep on running to high mileages without major problems?

Why should the Superb be any different from any other make?

Tales of disaster and doom are surely offset but the hundreds (thousands?) of owners that run their cars almost trouble free.

We buy the Superb for value for money and comfort. I believe it's mechnicals are no more (or less) unreliable than other manufacturers. It will have very little resale value when you come to sell it. Just enjoy it and laugh at the other mugs that buy their mainstream marques - I'd prefer to have the money in my pocket.

A few years ago I ran a leased Cireon XM ( a car, you would think, looking for any reason to break down) for three years. Guess what, no problems other than a broken fan belt. One of the best cars I've ever had.

If you're worried, buy an extended warranty - I've checked, it's about £30 a month for the dealer support.

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Is this through the Skoda dealer or what "Mikes"?

John

Dealership is £31 a month

Non-dealership is £26 a month

Warranty Direct. It's the 'bells and whistles' coverage

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Thanks Mikes

John

I'd Suggest Having A Look At Things Like Jd Power Survey. Skoda Have Been Top 10/11 For A Good Few Years For All 3 Cars. As Said For Peace Of Mind Pay The 300 A Year For Warranty. The Variable Service Intervals Are Fairly Long So Routine Maintenance Or Fluid Checks Are As Essential As Any Other Modern Car. I Used Bp Ultimate As Was Going To Keep It Long Term Before Getting Our New Dog.

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You make some very sensible points Burnsey - I have fixed service on mine and also have the oil and filter changed every six months. I have the Pollen filter, Fuel filter and air filters changed every year also - as I would like to keep this car a very long time.

Regards

john

Warranty Direct phoned me this morning and offered me the annual warrantly at £297 interest free over 10 months.

This is the 'bells and whistles cover', all parts and labour (£25 excess per claim), covers pollen filter, ecm water ingress and the fuel injectors and pump.

I do less than 30K miles per year (05 elegance 2.5 Tdi auto.) so will be more for higher mileages, and older cars.

Almost seems too good to be true! Any thoughts or experiences?

It kind it makes you wonder why/how they can insure it so cheaply? Maybe it's something to do with us owning a vehicle with bullet-proof mechanicals?

In my experience, insurance companies rarely get it wrong?

Maybe the doom-sayers in the forum have a comment?

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I must admit that price does sound good. I will give them a ring also and check it out. Thanks again Mikes.

Regards

John

Maybe the doom-sayers in the forum have a comment?

Wait until you try to claim, 8 weeks to make a decision, then be told you had a phillips screw somewhere a torx should've been, @ £300 I think you are better of keeping it in your pocket towards repairs, i've never seen a warranty company yet that willingly pays out especially if the claim is larger than the policy cost.

it might be better to see what owners of VW Transporters rotodiesel.

The 2.5 in the transporter is a PD i5, nothing like the 2.5 V6.

Wait until you try to claim, 8 weeks to make a decision, then be told you had a phillips screw somewhere a torx should've been, @ £300 I think you are better of keeping it in your pocket towards repairs, i've never seen a warranty company yet that willingly pays out especially if the claim is larger than the policy cost.

On my last car, a Seat Ibiza, Warranty Direct paid for my gearbox to be stripped and the bearings replaced - £190 policy Vs. £400 claim AND saved me paying for the labour on having the clutch changed. Took 10 days between dropping the car off and picking it up.

:)

No quibbles from WD, they didn't even send anyone to inspect it. I was surpised, the garaged was surprised and basically everyone was surprised. I was daft to take the rebuild instead of a re-con gearbox but that's another story.

auroan is correct in the case of the current SWB Transporter. The old LWB rear drive version available in Europe used the V6.

rotodiesel.

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have signed up for warranty Direct to start in November when car is 3 yrsold. The policyn covers all the mentioned problem areas - Water ingress, Injectors, Suspension etc.

regards John

Isn't that is what a warranty is for? A safety net to cover unforeseen circumstances.

Everyone has buildings and contents insurance on their homes but don't make claims every year to ensure that their annual premium is recouped? After two or three claims the insurance company will refuse to cover.

That's not what insurance is about. It's called peace of mind so that if anything goes wrong you're covered. It's not about reclaiming your premium

If you put £300 a year away to cover repairs I reckon it would cover about 5 hours of a mechanics time - then there's parts on top.

What would your solution be?

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