Went out for a meal with my g/f plus my sister and her other half last night. He's learning the trade as a diesel engine specialist and of course talk went to cars, particularly as he's just returned from a long course on how to read and diagnose faults from the ECU more efficiently and in greater depth.

He said he was always being asked which cars to go for and it was always the ones he never saw in the garage (of course). I mentioned I just bought a Skoda. He thought for a moment and agreed they must be pretty good as he only occasionally saw a PD engine - those from Octys. Then he asked which one I had (100BHP) and his eyes lit up apparently it's a very good one indeed, particularly for performance.

He said the only downside is the injectors. When they are working well they are apparently exceptional pieces of engineering, but replacing them costs £mega.

His main piece of advice to owners - make sure you use fuel additive at least once per month to keep it clean. I said I have Millers Diesel Sport 4 in it and he was a happy man.

Anyway, he's now going to be building up a database of readouts and optimisations over the next few months from customer engines and once he knows more he'll be giving mine a tune up. Handy people you know sometimes eh?

Thought I'd pass it on...

Went out for a meal with my g/f plus my sister and her other half last night. He's learning the trade as a diesel engine specialist and of course talk went to cars, particularly as he's just returned from a long course on how to read and diagnose faults from the ECU more efficiently and in greater depth.

He said he was always being asked which cars to go for and it was always the ones he never saw in the garage (of course). I mentioned I just bought a Skoda. He thought for a moment and agreed they must be pretty good as he only occasionally saw a PD engine - those from Octys. Then he asked which one I had (100BHP) and his eyes lit up apparently it's a very good one indeed, particularly for performance.

He said the only downside is the injectors. When they are working well they are apparently exceptional pieces of engineering, but replacing them costs £mega.

His main piece of advice to owners - make sure you use fuel additive at least once per month to keep it clean. I said I have Millers Diesel Sport 4 in it and he was a happy man.

Anyway, he's now going to be building up a database of readouts and optimisations over the next few months from customer engines and once he knows more he'll be giving mine a tune up. Handy people you know sometimes eh?

Thought I'd pass it on...

How exactly is he going to tune yours? :confused:

And skoda say NO to additives. voids warrenty on PD injector based engines :P

I'm amazed at the difference Millers Sport 4 makes. With 1.4 TDI the mpg are way up. With the SDI (SWMBO drives it) seems to be up as well. Both are definitely smoother, especially the SDI.

V

I think there is a clue here. "He is learning the trade as a diesel engine specialist".

While I wouldn't knock his enthusiasm I would be cautious about letting an inexperienced person who I just met in the pub "tune up" my pride and joy. I would want to know an awful lot more about what he can do and what is record is like before I handed the car over.

Having said that, I agree with his endorsement of the Millers product. Don't know if it improves the mpg on my car but it certainly sounds a lot smoother and less "diesel engined" particularly at tick-over.

I'm also unsure about the performance and mpg benefits and millers

but what I do know is that it definitely makes the car a lot nicer to drive, smoothing it out and making it less noisy at cold startup

So whats the consensus, Additives good or bad for the PD's? I have a 140

So whats the consensus, Additives good or bad for the PD's? I have a 140

Officially you shouldn't add anything to your fuel at all as the additives are bad for it.

Of course, if you were to look at the feedback on this and many other sites about such additives as Forte or Millers then you would see that they can be very benificial indeed. (However you need to be aware that ome of it is Snake oil).

You need to make the choice....

Don't worry I didn't meet him down the pub. He's almost certain to become my brother-in-law in fact. But as he puts it there's no point in looking over my engine until he has in-depth charts of comparable engines presumably for any possible optimisations and more importantly faults or deviations from smooth running. I'm thinking of things like fuel economy and emissions.

FWIW the main dealer warranties are proving in some cases a major pain. Apparently they (the dealers) go to the company he works for asking for fixes but as the warranty would then be void the main dealer is stuck. So if your car keeps going back to the garage with the same elusive fault you might have better luck going indy once the warranty expires.

And yes, he is a major advocate of diesel fuel additives. He gets to clean out those without...

GOT SOME BIG NEWS!!!!!!!

Was in Skoda the other day and they make up plastic trays with service packs in the parts department for the Workshop services.

I.e all fabia ones made up, fuel filters, oil filters air filters, sump plugs etc.....

And do you know what else???

Forte Diesel treatment. Goes into every diesel they service!

What do you think about that then??

Skoda dont recommend additives and it voids warranty - yet they do it?

Skoda dont recommend additives and it voids warranty - yet they do it?

It's laughable isn't it. Makes you wonder how anyone can keep a warranty these days!

Chris

This was the stuff they were popping in, just so theres no mistakes

FORTE Admanced Formula Diesel Treatment - 400ml on eBay, also Other Performance Parts, Performance Tuning Parts, Car Tuning Styling, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 11-Mar-08 10:04:27 GMT)

I thought WTF, conning barstewards

Don't worry I didn't meet him down the pub. He's almost certain to become my brother-in-law in fact. But as he puts it there's no point in looking over my engine until he has in-depth charts of comparable engines presumably for any possible optimisations and more importantly faults or deviations from smooth running. I'm thinking of things like fuel economy and emissions.

FWIW the main dealer warranties are proving in some cases a major pain. Apparently they (the dealers) go to the company he works for asking for fixes but as the warranty would then be void the main dealer is stuck. So if your car keeps going back to the garage with the same elusive fault you might have better luck going indy once the warranty expires.

And yes, he is a major advocate of diesel fuel additives. He gets to clean out those without...

i'm still waiting to hear what these "optimisations" are and what these in-depth charts will show.

load of old ****** if you ask me.

Additives are not a good idea for pd engines or any other high quality modern engine for that matter, period. They are not designed with good quality engines in mind, they are only really suitable for old decrepid diesels with poor technology. The best way to extend the life and efficiancy of the injectors is to give it a hard running a couple of times a week taking it up to 4500rpm through the gears. This will help to clean the injectors and prevent a build up of sludge within them. Just my thoughts though!

Mark

Additives are not a good idea for pd engines or any other high quality modern engine for that matter, period. They are not designed with good quality engines in mind, they are only really suitable for old decrepid diesels with poor technology. The best way to extend the life and efficiancy of the injectors is to give it a hard running a couple of times a week taking it up to 4500rpm through the gears. This will help to clean the injectors and prevent a build up of sludge within them. Just my thoughts though!

Mark

Millers Diesel Sport 4 is made for newer diesels (hence the name four) Eu4 models

Has done a world of good to my Fab.

If you dont like additives i'd stay away from dealer services

It's laughable isn't it. Makes you wonder how anyone can keep a warranty these days!

Chris

I think my warenty has gone west:rofl:

until recently i had been putting ultimate diesel in my car occaisionally but now its too expensive to justify :S

i use bp ultimate,but it has got quite expensive,put some in at the weekend,£1.18 per litre:eek:is it really worth it?

Additives are not a good idea for pd engines

Is there a specific reason why?

I think my warenty has gone west:rofl:

Update: Recently spotted just outside Sydney. Mine was fairly close by.

I think my warenty has gone west:rofl:

Well no, I'd hope your LSD comes with one

I'm a Millers fanboy - I can't bear run without the stuff now. Easily makes 3-4 mpg difference, even when giving it the beans, and as it makes the thing so much more lively the beans get given more freely too!

I'm wondering if an occasional bottle of that Forte stuff might be a good idea on top of the Millers - Millers is just a fuel improver, that Forte stuff is a proper engine cleaner product (isn't supposed to give any sort of 'boost')?

i use bp ultimate,but it has got quite expensive,put some in at the weekend,£1.18 per litre:eek:is it really worth it?

Nope.

Yip /\

This was the stuff they were popping in, just so theres no mistakes

FORTE Admanced Formula Diesel Treatment - 400ml on eBay, also Other Performance Parts, Performance Tuning Parts, Car Tuning Styling, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 11-Mar-08 10:04:27 GMT)

I thought WTF, conning barstewards

Don't suppose you questioned them on this did you? I wouldn't mind knowing if they used this specific brand for a reason or just because it's a cleaner. Could be because it's cheaper than Millers...

Don't suppose you questioned them on this did you? I wouldn't mind knowing if they used this specific brand for a reason or just because it's a cleaner. Could be because it's cheaper than Millers...

No idea, probs just to give the car a wee boost to trick the customer ...

Im sick of talking to them tbh, think there sick of the sight of me, i'll ask next time though

Additives = placebo

I met a bloke in a pub once who swore blind that Fred West was the salt of the earth, a real good geezer:rolleyes: