Ahhh goody another thread where I get to use this;

In the last 7 years I have done over 400,000 miles in various different cars and I have tried it all. Everything. The lot. The full range. The whole package. If it was there, I had it especially when I had a company fuel card.

None of it made any difference. It's all the same, you get good tanks and bad tanks no matter what the brand and your more than likely to find the general conditions will effect the power/smoke more than your fuel. I think BP Ultimate gave a few extra MPG after a few tanks had passed but it was nowhere near enough to justify the price and it didn't do the car any better over time either. I currently use a mix of whatever is cheapest and b100 Bio. Runs great and it works out about £1.05 a litre the way I run it.

I could also go on about cetane ratings and the specific science behind it all as I have done in the past when posting this thread which seems to reoccur every 3-4 months but it would probably be a wasted effort. At the end of the day, if you get a sense of satisfaction out of paying a premium for your fuel then knock yourself out, it's worth the extra just to feel good about it. I am sure the oil companies love you all:thumbup:

HEAR HEAR:thumbup:

tried a tankful, didn't notice a difference (but then I don't spend all my time looking behind me)

I have been using v-power for the last few weeks but i cant say i have noticed a difference to be honest i have been putting it in to collect the free cars cause im sad like that lol doing well on the shell drivers club pionts as well lol

Interesting to read the posts in this thread...

I've tried BP Ultimate diesel, but with the nearest garage that sells it being about a 40-min drive away, it's not that economical to go there every week!

Anyway, I find that Shell v-power diesel makes the car run more smoothly and I also get more mpg out of the tank

That's just me though. Best advice, suck it and see. Tesco fuel is almost the same price where I live so I'd rather put the better stuff in

Think i'll just stick with Asdas finest to be honest.

Mine is running well, and returned an indicated 62.3mpg on a run yesterday.

I've used it once but did not much diffrence to be honest, I'm currently using shell's normal diesel at the min and returning on average about 48-50mpg combined.

i put £20 worth of V-Power in my tank, first thing i noticed was how much i was being robbed at the pump (1.18p/L). i found the difference in performance to be amazing... amazing that i wasted the extra money for no real reason other than to give this miracle fuel a bash.

diesel is diesel, i havent found any brand to make the car feel or perform any difference, i'll stick to shell regular diesel as its the best priced option in my area.

Whilst I will be the first to poopoo the snake oil like substances like V-power and Ultimate I am noticing a lack of genuine objectivity in this debate.

A lot of people seem to be saying "Tried a tank, didn't see the point, there was no difference" You really need to use it over at least a few tanks to see any effect Your ECU might take a while to adjust to a new Cetane rating among other factors.

IT DOES (In a lot of cases) give you a bit more either through output or economy. It all comes down to if it's worth it for you which I doubt it ever will be but you can't just grab a few litres and expect miracles.

I've noticed the v- power when I filled up with the stuff in my petrol focus it pulled and seemed more responsive but don't want to stick a tank of v-power diesel in as it will cost me a lot more than normal diesel.

A lot of people seem to be saying "Tried a tank, didn't see the point, there was no difference" You really need to use it over at least a few tanks to see any effect Your ECU might take a while to adjust to a new Cetane rating among other factors.

i see what your saying but surely the ECU is always taking readings and adjusting accordingly, i would expect a period of 100miles of driving on the same fuel as to be more than enough to see any changes.

i see what your saying but surely the ECU is always taking readings and adjusting accordingly, i would expect a period of 100miles of driving on the same fuel as to be more than enough to see any changes.

Maybe not. For a start any fuel you put in would be initially mixed with the previous and then there is the "cleaning" agents an other additives not just the ones adjusting the cetane rating which in itself can take while.

I don't know exactly how long or how much it takes but I can tell you that it will be more than hundred miles probably more like 500.

I think you're kidding yourself if you think its going to make any difference. DERV is formulated and sold according to strict British Standard specifications. It has to be tightly controlled. Shell has 1 refinery in the UK, near Ellesmere Port in Cheshire. If you fill up with "Shell" derv is Southampton where Exxon has a refinery or Immingham where Total and Conoco have refineries, do you seriously think the fuel you buy has been trucked all the way from Cheshire? No, ofcourse it hasn't. It's odds on that it came from the nearest refinery ot the nearest fuel depot (remember Buncefield?). The base gas oil is generic, the only slight differences between brands are in the small amounts of additive packages (again strictly controlled within tight limits) used. I really, really think you're kidding yourself if you think "I only use Shell DERV". Unless you live in the North West of England, you're almost certainly not using "Shell" fuel when you fill up from a Shell station.

I think you're kidding yourself if you think its going to make any difference. DERV is formulated and sold according to strict British Standard specifications. It has to be tightly controlled. Shell has 1 refinery in the UK, near Ellesmere Port in Cheshire. If you fill up with "Shell" derv is Southampton where Exxon has a refinery or Immingham where Total and Conoco have refineries, do you seriously think the fuel you buy has been trucked all the way from Cheshire? No, ofcourse it hasn't. It's odds on that it came from the nearest refinery ot the nearest fuel depot (remember Buncefield?). The base gas oil is generic, the only slight differences between brands are in the small amounts of additive packages (again strictly controlled within tight limits) used. I really, really think you're kidding yourself if you think "I only use Shell DERV". Unless you live in the North West of England, you're almost certainly not using "Shell" fuel when you fill up from a Shell station.

I keep posting info to this effect but noone seems to take any notice at all. I know the Sainsburys and Shell garage round here all use the same tanker so it's ust a case of going with the cheapest.

I live near the shell refinery in ellsmere port

So

Are all the supermarkets around my area using shell??

For instance the sainsburys petrol forecourt is about a mile from the shell main gate

ergo

Shell diesel?

I live near the shell refinery in ellsmere port

So

Are all the supermarkets around my area using shell??

For instance the sainsburys petrol forecourt is about a mile from the shell main gate

ergo

Shell diesel?

Probably be more accurate to call it just "Diesel"

I use millers diesel power plus 4

think this works for me less smoke and its not a bad price to

I live near the shell refinery in ellsmere port

So

Are all the supermarkets around my area using shell??

For instance the sainsburys petrol forecourt is about a mile from the shell main gate

ergo

Shell diesel?

If you drive down Oil Sites Road and wait a while, you'll be able to follow the tanker from the Stanlow filling terminal to the Sainsbury's over by Cheshire Oaks! Like you say, about a mile. You can see the road tankers filling from the road quite easily.

I keep posting info to this effect but noone seems to take any notice at all. I know the Sainsburys and Shell garage round here all use the same tanker so it's ust a case of going with the cheapest.

Working in Texaco, I see plain tankers with a small shell sign on the side filling up here. I then see the same plain tankers with the small sign on the side in petrol station 50 miles down the road. I see proper shell tankers in the same petrol stations sometimes which I guess is the V Power ones.

Tesco is a diferent story I think. They buy their petrol from a company called Greenergy, which in turn buys their petrol from the refineries and blends it themselves and sells it to Tesco. I believe Tesco has a share in this company (looked it up on the website ones) Not sure why they do this but guessing it works out cheaper for them this way? (god my life is so interesting I really need to get a hobby :()

I think you'll find in turn that "Greenergy" (whoever they are) have swap deals in place across the UK so that they are not trucking fuel from one depot in the UK to as far as Lands End at one extreme and John O'Groats at the other. Think about it, it just does not make sense you have tankers passing each other travelling North and South burning fuel to deliver fuel. It's not only fuel co's that do this. For example, industrial gases co's like BOC and Air Products do swap deals. So you'll see BOC tankers filling with liquid Oxygen at Air Products depots and vice versa. Saves a LOT of unnecessary trucking.

Found V-Power in vRS makes the engine smoother and reduces the soot from the exhaust. MPG is the same.

Found BP Ultimate decreased my MPG by 10 percent, and made no difference to the running.

Ditto, What you said

National aka Jimbo

Oh I did the Ultimate and purchased magic Snake Oil Tablets, at the local market

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You will not notice the difference sir until it has built up in the engine about two weeks (after I have upped my stall and run :-)

and you know he was dead right, I did not notice the difference until he had upped stall and left, I noticed the difference was NIL ZILCH SFA

LOL at myself for buying Snake Oil

On topic v power not mpg change just a smoother less sootier engine

National aka Jimbo

Oh I did the Ultimate and purchased magic Snake Oil Tablets, at the local market

Supplied by Welcome to Fuel Freedom International

You will not notice the difference sir until it has built up in the engine about two weeks (after I have upped my stall and run :-)

and you know he was dead right, I did not notice the difference until he had upped stall and left, I noticed the difference was NIL ZILCH SFA

LOL at myself for buying Snake Oil

On topic v power not mpg change just a smoother less sootier engine

National aka Jimbo

I was approached by a seller to sell these (Network selling...FFS) and was given some samples. I did some experimenting with them and found they would not dissolve in a litre of diesel and just created a lot of sediment. This means a few of these would do little more than block your fuel filter. The science behind them is also totally useless as well or it is the way the describe it;

"Here is the way it works. When an MPG-CAP™ is added to the fuel tank, the fuel carries it to the combustion chamber. Its ingredients are used to treat the metal surfaces by forming a film that is technically called thermally derived oxidation. The carboxylic metal creates an oxide residue on the hot surfaces at the time of combustion. This process can be compared to the scorching of a pan when cooking. When overheated, the food residue forms a layer on the pan when it is oxidised, leaving a film even after being scrubbed that discolours the pan and appears to permeate the pores of the metal.

Inside an engine cylinder, small amounts of material provided by the MPG-CAPS™ oxidise in high temperatures, rapidly producing a thin layer of film on the cylinder walls, the piston face, and the fire deck that provide several benefits....

First of all, the MPG-CAPS™ change the surface heat absorption characteristics of the metal. The fuel and air mixture produces energy in the form of heat that creates expansion that drives the piston down, and the film inhibits the transfer of radiant heat. This directly results in higher combustion temperature, greater expansion, and more power"

So it coats the cylinder walls and piston in cack thus creating an insulating film to increase the combustion temp.... :rofl::rofl: Yeah, did I tell you all that I have just been slapped in the face by a monkey calling himself Gerald whilst I was roller blading down the M4? Besides if the combustion temp increased the engine would probalby alter the timing...

You might as well be putting OXO cubes in your tank