I would appreciate if anybody can let me know what sort of real world fuel consumption figures owners get from petrol 1.8 TSi engines with DSG box.

Am considering changing from an Octavia VRS diesel with DSG to a Superb. I currently get 48.1mpg. Official figure is 47.1.

Does anybody get over 40mpg with motorway driving?

my experience is skoda put very realistic figures in the brochure. On the test drive of a 170 tdi, i got 5 more mpg than claimed, and i was pushing the accelerator a bit

See my signature: With little more than 1200 km on the clock, I've only had two tankstops, but so far the fuel consumption looks OK.

I would appreciate if anybody can let me know what sort of real world fuel consumption figures owners get from petrol 1.8 TSi engines with DSG box.

Am considering changing from an Octavia VRS diesel with DSG to a Superb. I currently get 48.1mpg. Official figure is 47.1.

Does anybody get over 40mpg with motorway driving?

I would have thought this is possible.

I can get 45 mpg on the motorway on the computer on my Octavia 1,8 TSI DSG which I reckon is about 43 mpg actual, that is relaxed driving 60-75 depending on conditions, sometimes on the GSM phone system. I actually average about 42 mpg overall average but that includes quite a few maximum acceleration sessions, some flat out sessions on some of the Welsh and H&W lanes.

Reckon the Superb 1.8 DSG I will probably order to replace my Octy 1,8 TSI DSG will average about 3 mpg less but that will be offset with the 60 litre tank instead of having the 55 litre tank so on a good day should see around the 600 mile range on the Superb like I do on the Octy, 630 miles is best figures.

Looked at the 2 litre TSI and even thought of the V6 but their range is just too low and until they get the 7 speed wet DSG would not consider. Skoda introducing the Variable Valve timing 2 litre (EA888 with 210 hp and 350 Nm torque) which is about 10% more economical running those engine larger than the 1.8 TSI would be too painful in time spent filling it up.

Like the Octy, the 170 hp Superb Diesel is another few tenths slower than the 160 hp 1.8 TSI Superb and paying more than £1000 for being slower, plus diesel fuel is more expensive and even the company car tax is worse for those who pay that.

I was thinking of chipping mine out to 215-220 hp as there is so much room above the 4500 rpm standard peak power point and as long as one does not get too much torque added via the remap, some report 300 NM is OK, others have taken it to 380 NM but that is probably too far, then well over 200 hp is achievable. My trouble is I do 40K a year and therefore change the car every 18 months to stay within the 60K warranty.

If you are brave enough then freewheeling down long hills really helps the consumption, this feature is being introduced in the new spec Q3,5,7 as part of an eco drive package and we will probably get in Skoda in a fe years time. Just knock in to neutral, keep hand on DSG stock and click back in to Drive when needed, takes a fraction of a second to do, adds tens of miles on an average tank range unless you only drive flat place like Holland or Norfolk etc but even then I do quite a bot of coasting up to junctions, all seems to helps.

Edited 3 October, 201114 yr by lol

I would have thought this is possible.

I can get 45 mpg on the motorway on the computer on my Octavia 1,8 TSI DSG which I reckon is about 43 mpg actual, that is relaxed driving 60-75 depending on conditions, sometimes on the GSM phone system. I actually average about 42 mpg overall average but that includes quite a few maximum acceleration sessions, some flat out sessions on some of the Welsh and H&W lanes.

Reckon the Superb 1.8 DSG I will probably order to replace my Octy 1,8 TSI DSG will average about 3 mpg less but that will be offset with the 60 litre tank instead of having the 55 litre tank so on a good day should see around the 600 mile range on the Superb like I do on the Octy, 630 miles is best figures.

Looked at the 2 litre TSI and even thought of the V6 but their range is just too low and until they get the 7 speed wet DSG would not consider. Skoda introducing the Variable Valve timing 2 litre (EA888 with 210 hp and 350 Nm torque) which is about 10% more economical running those engine larger than the 1.8 TSI would be too painful in time spent filling it up.

Like the Octy, the 170 hp Superb Diesel is another few tenths slower than the 160 hp 1.8 TSI Superb and paying more than £1000 for being slower, plus diesel fuel is more expensive and even the company car tax is worse for those who pay that.

I was thinking of chipping mine out to 215-220 hp as there is so much room above the 4500 rpm standard peak power point and as long as one does not get too much torque added via the remap, some report 300 NM is OK, others have taken it to 380 NM but that is probably too far, then well over 200 hp is achievable. My trouble is I do 40K a year and therefore change the car every 18 months to stay within the 60K warranty.

If you are brave enough then freewheeling down long hills really helps the consumption, this feature is being introduced in the new spec Q3,5,7 as part of an eco drive package and we will probably get in Skoda in a fe years time. Just knock in to neutral, keep hand on DSG stock and click back in to Drive when needed, takes a fraction of a second to do, adds tens of miles on an average tank range unless you only drive flat place like Holland or Norfolk etc but even then I do quite a bot of coasting up to junctions, all seems to helps.

Personally I marvel at some of the MPG numbers people are quoting.

I travel 38 miles each way to work every day with 3 miles at either end that are country lanes and typical town. I have done just shy of 7,000 miles and my average to date is 30 MPG. If I tickle the car to accelerate and drive all the way at 60 mph I can just about get 38/39 mpg. If I push the car then this drops to 27 mpg.

For such a big car not running the most advanced engine, this is not bad, but I do wish I could get near what others are posting.

Elegance 1.8 TSi DSG Combi.

89474 km, 7057.03 litres = 7.8872 l/100 km or 35.814928451482 mpg

This is real world comsumption, 90% highway driving at 120 km/h me alone with luggage, the other 10% city driving with 2 adults, 2 kids and a lot of luggage. Obviously there are tanks so "economic" (below 7 l/100 km = 40.35 mpg) that means too little city driving, and others so "high" (9 l/100 km = 31.38 mpg) that means a lot of urban driving.

To summarize, my comsumption is always between 30 and 40 mpg, depending on how much city driving.

Just my two cents.

PS I would attach an excel file where I write all my data, but I can't find how to do it on the posting options

I thought knocking the gearbox into neutral to coast downhill was now pointless because modern engines cut off the fuel supply when you lift off. When I do, the MPG read-out on the maxi-dot is 200 mpg, then --- (ie no fuel is being used I thought).

dill

I thought knocking the gearbox into neutral to coast downhill was now pointless because modern engines cut off the fuel supply when you lift off. When I do, the MPG read-out on the maxi-dot is 200 mpg, then --- (ie no fuel is being used I thought).

dill

It is down to the internal friction loses of the back wheels driving the engine at a couple of thousand rpm. If you start at the top of a hill and leave it in gear you will be going several mile per hour slower at the bottom of the hill, due to the engine friction losses, than if you had slotted it in to neutral for the length of the hill. The amount of fuel keeping the engine ticking over is tiny and virtually irrelevant. Try it over a journey or even to the top of the next hill. I reckon it is worth a couple of mpgs or another 25 miles or so tank range. Also coasting up to junctions and lights worth doing.

On for DSGs where this is easy, I do not do it in our 1.9D or the TSI VRS SWMBO has.

Edited 4 October, 201114 yr by lol

Personally I marvel at some of the MPG numbers people are quoting.

I travel 38 miles each way to work every day with 3 miles at either end that are country lanes and typical town. I have done just shy of 7,000 miles and my average to date is 30 MPG. If I tickle the car to accelerate and drive all the way at 60 mph I can just about get 38/39 mpg. If I push the car then this drops to 27 mpg.

For such a big car not running the most advanced engine, this is not bad, but I do wish I could get near what others are posting.

Elegance 1.8 TSi DSG Combi.

I tend to agree, on my 170 4x4 manual I often get just over 40mpg on fill ups, so I dreda to think what I'd get in a petrol equivalent. If I averaged it out over all fill ups it would probably be about 44-45mpg.

The thing I've found in a diesel is that the fuel consumption Is pretty uniform, it varies by about 15-20% depending on driving conditions. Personally with petrols it can vary by as much as 50% as shown by your experiences.

As mentioned this is my personal experience, but I do sometimes wonder how some of these no.s are achieved. I don't disbelieve them, but I obviously don't have the driving style or temperament to achieve these sort of figures. For example, people coasting up to traffic lights drives me nuts! Especially when they stop about two car lengths short, and then after a minute or so, when a numbers of cars are queued behind and the lights are still red they just decide to move off again and close up the gap! What is with that?? ;)

Cheers

Steve

Although not totally relevant to your post I run a 17CR TDI DSG Hatch and record every tankful as I always brim at every stop.

I record fuel used a spreadsheet for all cars I have owned to understand real consumption. My current car is achieving 46.652 over 48,000 miles against what I had previously achieved with a 1.8T Audi Convertable DSG which averaged 31.852 over 66,000 miles.

My commute is A roads 40 miles in morning and mixture A/M roads driving home with a little bit of town driving either end.

Best fuel consumption in Audi was 35.769, worst 22.729

Skoda best 51.673 worst 39.830

Edited 5 October, 201114 yr by ddyer79

Best fuel consumption in Audi was 35.769, worst 22.729

Skoda best 51.673 worst 39.830

Ahhhgg, you just blown apart my guestimates. It does show the same trend though, ~57% variance for petrol, ~30% for diesel.

As mentioned this is my personal experience, but I do sometimes wonder how some of these no.s are achieved.

Just driving.

I'm not a liar, even I've written the numbers I store into an excel file with every tank I fill, but if you can't believe them, it's only your problem. Perhaps you're trying to hijack this thread beginnig another discussion about diesel vs petrol, or maybe you think this comsumption values belong to an international conspiracy to fight against diesel cars, or something like that.

PowerMalc started the topic asking for real world comsumption figures. Many of us have answered with our own experience and you, that curiously don't have a petrol Skoda, call us liars. Pretty attitude.

Yes, it is petrol 1.8TSi figures I'm interested in as I am thinking of changing to a Superb.

I know the diesel figures, I have one (albeit a VRS)

Thanks to everyones input. With my driving I think I would be getting 40 to 42 mpg

Just driving.

I'm not a liar, even I've written the numbers I store into an excel file with every tank I fill, but if you can't believe them, it's only your problem. Perhaps you're trying to hijack this thread beginnig another discussion about diesel vs petrol, or maybe you think this comsumption values belong to an international conspiracy to fight against diesel cars, or something like that.

PowerMalc started the topic asking for real world comsumption figures. Many of us have answered with our own experience and you, that curiously don't have a petrol Skoda, call us liars. Pretty attitude.

Oh What a drama queen!!

Nice edited quote by the way, you didnt used to work at the News of the World did you?? I notice you decided to omit the next four words...

As mentioned this is my personal experience, but I do sometimes wonder how some of these no.s are achieved. I don't disbelieve them,

As I said before, I don't question the validity of them and didn't call anyone a liar. You just decided to jump to the wrong conclusion.

Cheers

Steve

Yes, it is petrol 1.8TSi figures I'm interested in as I am thinking of changing to a Superb.

I know the diesel figures, I have one (albeit a VRS)

Thanks to everyones input. With my driving I think I would be getting 40 to 42 mpg

Yes that should be entirely possible if you do a good mixture of driving and not just urban.

The engine is a joy, gives similar acceleration to the VRS CR Octavia even in the heavier Superb, engine pulls from 1500 rpm and screams to 7000 rpm.

7th gears is very tall ie 29 mph/1000 so cruising at 70 or 80 mph is very relaxed.

Probably be my next choice, expect 600 mile range on a run and look forward to the extra space with the kids reaching the 6 foot mark. The extra safety is very desireable too.

Mark 1 Superb we had handled like a barge but I hear the MK 2 Superb is much better, looking forward to the change and the deals look great at the moment.

Edited 5 October, 201114 yr by lol

Just as a little by the way, I'm an advanced trained driver and would strongly recommend maintaining proper control of the vehicle at all times rather then coasting here or there in order to gain small increases in mpg.

I've still got less than 1000 miles on the clock, but I've averaged 27 mpg so far, that's mostly city driving doing an average of 10 mph.

On the A roads at the weekend I got 33mpg, but that was all hills.

I'm hoping things will settle down a bit, a trip to the south soon should give me some motorway miles.

Just as a little by the way, I'm an advanced trained driver and would strongly recommend maintaining proper control of the vehicle at all times rather then coasting here or there in order to gain small increases in mpg.

I only do this in the DSG and not in a manual and always believe I am in control of the vehicle. Re-engaging the gear only requires a movement of the DSG stick by one cm or so and drive is engaged within fractions of a second.

I am ex-Department of Transport in the UK and went along on many accident inventigation also benefited from Police Driver training too.

In fact the new Eco setting on the DQ500 7 spedd dsg gearboxes (Audi Q7 etc) have a freewheel function ie off throttle the engine disengages and revs drop to tick over and then immediately re-engage when throttle is pressed in hundreds of a second. We will hopefully all have the option in all VAG brands soon.

I thought knocking the gearbox into neutral to coast downhill was now pointless because modern engines cut off the fuel supply when you lift off. When I do, the MPG read-out on the maxi-dot is 200 mpg, then --- (ie no fuel is being used I thought).

dill

Absolutely right. If you have maxidot you can prove this as follows:

In maxidot, switch units for consumption/distance to litres/100km (nothing is reset - it just displays in different units)- you need to do this because in mpg the display cannot display the numbers required to distinguish between "not very much" and "zero".

Roll down any hill in neutral - instantaneous fuel consumption on maxidot shows 1.2 to 1.8 litres per 100km depending on speed - ie some fuel is being used albeit very little.

Select gear and run down hill with foot off throttle - maxidot shows 0.0 litres per 100km.- ie zero fuel is being used.

The old coasting down hill to save fuel thing is a throw back to the carburettor days

I would have thought this is possible.

I can get 45 mpg on the motorway on the computer on my Octavia 1,8 TSI DSG which I reckon is about 43 mpg actual, that is relaxed driving 60-75 depending on conditions, sometimes on the GSM phone system. I actually average about 42 mpg overall average but that includes quite a few maximum acceleration sessions, some flat out sessions on some of the Welsh and H&W lanes.

Reckon the Superb 1.8 DSG I will probably order to replace my Octy 1,8 TSI DSG will average about 3 mpg less but that will be offset with the 60 litre tank instead of having the 55 litre tank so on a good day should see around the 600 mile range on the Superb like I do on the Octy, 630 miles is best figures.

LOL my dear dear chap, you really need run your outrageous claims through a calculator before you post.

630 mile range from a 1.8TSI DSG Octavia? Assuming you use the full 55litres available that is real 52.5mpg average over the whole tank!

I don't think so!!

I filled up my 1.8TSI DSG Octavia this morning. After a tankful mostly used for short journeys, low fuel light on for 50 miles and a final 10 miles crawling through heavy rush hour traffic, the Maxidot told me 5 miles left, 408miles travelled, average speed 26mph, fuel consumption 38.1mpg. Took 51.5 litres to fill it giving brim to brim of 35.9mpg.

That is the bottom end of normal for me: 35-40mpg is the norm brim to brim.

Absolutely right. If you have maxidot you can prove this as follows:

In maxidot, switch units for consumption/distance to litres/100km (nothing is reset - it just displays in different units)- you need to do this because in mpg the display cannot display the numbers required to distinguish between "not very much" and "zero".

Roll down any hill in neutral - instantaneous fuel consumption on maxidot shows 1.2 to 1.8 litres per 100km depending on speed - ie some fuel is being used albeit very little.

Select gear and run down hill with foot off throttle - maxidot shows 0.0 litres per 100km.- ie zero fuel is being used.

The old coasting down hill to save fuel thing is a throw back to the carburettor days

Not quite; if overcoming the drag of the transmission and engine takes more fuel than idling the engine would, you gain from rolling in neutral.

Put another way, taking your figures for idle fuel consumption when rolling down the hill: if I need 2.0 l/100km to overcome the engine braking and hold the same speed that I would hold if I was in neutral, I still save fuel by going into neutral.

I suspect, however, that the real point of the DQ500's "eco" mode is that it interacts nicely with Greenline/Bluemotion start-stop technology. Bluemotion DSGs already stop the engine when you hold the brake down beyond a certain point, and restart it when you lift your foot; this would let the DSG cut drag if you lift your foot off the power pedal while at speed downhill, while still not burning any fuel (leave the engine in "stop" state, so no fuelling, and enter neutral so it doesn't provide braking either).

I would appreciate if anybody can let me know what sort of real world fuel consumption figures owners get from petrol 1.8 TSi engines with DSG box.

Am considering changing from an Octavia VRS diesel with DSG to a Superb. I currently get 48.1mpg. Official figure is 47.1.

Does anybody get over 40mpg with motorway driving?

DSG 1.8 Tsi: over 3500 miles the Maxidot is showing 33.9/Gal. I recently did Tank to Tank check on 150 mile trip and this

worked out at 36.9.

LOL my dear dear chap, you really need run your outrageous claims through a calculator before you post.

630 mile range from a 1.8TSI DSG Octavia? Assuming you use the full 55litres available that is real 52.5mpg average over the whole tank!

I don't think so!!

I filled up my 1.8TSI DSG Octavia this morning. After a tankful mostly used for short journeys, low fuel light on for 50 miles and a final 10 miles crawling through heavy rush hour traffic, the Maxidot told me 5 miles left, 408miles travelled, average speed 26mph, fuel consumption 38.1mpg. Took 51.5 litres to fill it giving brim to brim of 35.9mpg.

That is the bottom end of normal for me: 35-40mpg is the norm brim to brim.

52.5 is about Skoda's extra urban figure (52.3) or the 1.8 TSI and i have had that figure on my computer all be it just on the very odd occasion. Computer seems to over read by about 5% so that is a genuine 50 mpg and 610 mile range. I am very luck in that my journeys tend to be long ones ie 100-150 miles, motorway and A road and I have the TomTom live which redirects me round traffic problems like the A14 where it just directs me through the country side and I get great MPG.

I follow the Clarkson rule that braking is for failures and anticipate far enough ahead to rarely brake. That said I to often travel at the max ie about 79 mph on the GPS ie 82-83 on the clock and in this situation I only get 42-43 mpg on the clock ie 40-41 mpg in reality. That is OK as I am lucky enough not to pay for my fuel, except through tax.

Like others on this thread I am usually in the 40-45 mpg but can strech that to 45-50 mpg when daudling ie early for a meeting, on the Phone so I tend to cruise with the lorries then. If I am really hyper-miling Mode I can get up to Skoda's figure of 52-53 mpg but that is a very boring place ie with the Lorries except for the occasional up to 80 mph and then freewheel down a long hill. I have had our TSI VRS up to 570 miles on the range so that is equally incredible I suppose and got out 1.9D up to 740 miles and my 1.9D A4 to 960 miles when I had it.

Love my Newtonian physics and Laws of Thermodynamics,don't let them chemical energy get wasted in to dreaded lost motion and even worse "heat" (lost in braking). Like the Qi/ki (like in in Aikido) and other martial arts it is using the preservation and direction of energy to be in harmony and achieve perfection.

Edited 6 October, 201114 yr by lol

52.5 is about Skoda's extra urban figure (52.3) or the 1.8 TSI and i have had that figure on my computer all be it just on the very odd occasion.

Aah! That is different! You have had 630 mile range on your computer a couple of times but have never actually driven 630 miles without refuelling. There is a big difference!