headlight beam adjuster is not working!

[EastoCarlos]

Hello fely owners

Does anyone got that headlight beam adjuster working

Cuz mine doesn't work even that I changed the whole headlights

And reconnect the pipes to the headlights motor!!!

Kindly help??

[RicardoM]

It's the headlight height adjuster.

There isn't any motor, the system is hydraulic.

What fluid did you use?

 

In order to make it work, the secret is to bleed any air from the system. I hope somebody knows how to do that because I don't.

Most Czech drivers replaced the hydraulic adjuster with an electrical adjuster kit based on servo motors like the one on Skoda Octavia.

[EastoCarlos]

It's the headlight height adjuster.

There isn't any motor, the system is hydraulic.

What fluid did you use?

In order to make it work, the secret is to bleed any air from the system. I hope somebody knows how to do that because I don't.

Most Czech drivers replaced the hydraulic adjuster with an electrical adjuster kit based on servo motors like the one on Skoda Octavia.

[EastoCarlos]

Actually I just noticed that it's system is hydraulic from you

Cuz science I bought the car i wasn't working

I'll check the tubes again if it's fine or not.

About the fluid what kind I don't know actually :/

Is it kind of water !!

And about replacing them with an electrical one is it easy

I guess the replacement is fabia's one if i'm not wrong!!

[RicardoM]

The fluid is some sort of glycol, probably G11 coolant.

As for the Fabia servo for headlights, it is possible, not sure.

But I know for sure a Czech company sells a kit for Felicia.

 

 

[felicia16v]

Just remove the adjuster unit and unscrew the ball end about 5mm at least then you can manually adjust the headlight aim so it's not on the ground 3 feet in front of the car. They never stayed working for long even when new. Rubbish idea lol.

[RicardoM]

Is the adjuster on MOT list?

[felicia16v]

No not here. Only needed if xenon headlights I believe.

[HeavyMetalRich]

Is the adjuster on MOT list?

 

Yes it is, kind of. The beam level has to be within a certain range as I'm sure you're aware. If this can be achieved using the dash mounted adjuster (if fitted) then the car will not fail.

[RicardoM]

Speaking of which, is there any headlight HID kit officially approved in UK or EU for Felicia? One that will pass MOT?

[RainbowFire]

Speaking of which, is there any headlight HID kit officially approved in UK or EU for Felicia? One that will pass MOT?

 

Nope, because HID burners don't conform to 'halogen' specifications and produce light at a different point of origin. This in-turn relates differently to the reflectors and produces an entrely different pattern output, which is useless to see the road by, but pretty good at blinding everyone else.

 

To produce an approved retrofit kit, it would have be to done, and tested to EU conformity, by an OEM (no dodgy "bloke in a garage" thing). Given that we're talking about a car the ceased production 15ish years ago (and has now been replaced 3 times!), it's highly unlikely that any OEM will have even considered such a kit, especially given there are far more numerous cars of similar (and older) ages still on the roads.

 

This is why we have a standards system and regulations.

 

The same is true for retro-fitting LEDs.

 

If you retro-fit projectors however.........

 

 

Yes it is, kind of. The beam level has to be within a certain range as I'm sure you're aware. If this can be achieved using the dash mounted adjuster (if fitted) then the car will not fail.

 

Almost true......the MOT tester can't make any adjustments whilst testing the car, only turn things on and off, so no adjusting the thumb-wheel during a test. It's not even possible to test the self-levelling systems used on HID equipped cars.

 

 

No not here. Only needed if xenon headlights I believe.

 

OE have to be self-levelling (either by motor, or self-levelling suspension) and have washers. The DVLA VOSA stance is that retro-fit should be the same, so no manual levelling. This has yet to be tested legally though.

 

Unofficial retro-fit (burners with halogen bases) are technically illegal. (See "done to death" discussions in the general car section and Octavia II section ;) )

 

 

 

Unless loads are regularly carried, it's far easier to do as Felicia16V suggested and make the adjustment manually.

Edited 1 July, 2016 by RainbowFire

[RicardoM]

This is why we have a standards system and regulations.

Riiiiight... How about your very special friend and his headlights? Does he still try to bribe police officers to not get a ticket when blinding fellow drivers with his very legal headlights installed 'because he can'? Does he still swap illegal parts with legal ones just before MOT to pass it then swaps them back? So really...

[RainbowFire]

Riiiiight... How about your very special friend and his headlights? Does he still try to bribe police officers to not get a ticket when blinding fellow drivers with his very legal headlights installed 'because he can'? Does he still swap illegal parts with legal ones just before MOT to pass it then swaps them back? So really...

 

Well, Ricky dear boy, from that diatribe, it's evident you don't understand what a standard is and why they exist. And that you seem to be under the mis-guided impression (or another of those woeful attempts at some sort of insult - missed again) that people who do this are my "very special friend" continues to demonstrate your total inability to have a civil conversation.

 

As for your sensationalist comments about bribing policemen.......,methinks you've been watching too much Miami Vice, or maybe bribery and corruption is how your country works. Either way, it bothers me not.

 

But, yes, if you bother to look (here on Briskoda no less, in those sections that don't concern themselves with Felicias) you'll find that there are those who know that it's illegal, and will swap things over when it comes to MOT time (along with mis-made number plates) and will swap them back after the test has been done. Should you actually get stopped by the police, the worst they'll do is stick a VDRS on the car, which will require you to correct the issue, take the car to a MOT center, where that issue will be examined and your VDRS stamped to show that at that moment in time, the vehicle was in a condition that passed the MOT. But, as I said, the legality of HID retro-fit, in the UK, has been done to death and then flogged some more. The way our police work is baffling at times though, it depends on what targets they're trying to hit at that time as to how well they will enforce the law. It seems strange to me, again, that in replying to member who is considerably outside the UK, that you seem to concern yourself with the UK legal system once more. I do know of MOT testers who use a loop-hole to defeat those using the "non-interference" loop-hole, but that requires you to have an understanding of colour temperature and falls way outside the scope of this discussion.

 

None of my friends ("special" or otherwise) are running HIDs in reflectors, because we do actually understand the way lights work, and why they are made in such a way, and the consequences of going outside the specification and standards.

[RainbowFire]

The other technical issue with this is that Felicias use dual filament bulbs (commonly called "H4"), which in turn are physically two different points of origin. Some kits only have the low-beam position in HID, so you need to attach a set of high-beam lights*. Some kits have a motor that moves the point of origin from low-beam to high-beam, some have a shield which moves, some have a halogen bulb beside the burner.

 

There's a good, simple, explanation here:

http://www.hid50.com/whatbulb.html

 

....and is summed up thusly:

 

"There is no such thing as a perfect H4 HID conversion. In all cases, the beam patterns distort and are not faithful to the original. It is not possible to perfectly duplicate the H4 halogen light source with a HID unit, despite the best (and worst) claims in the market. How close you get to the original beam pattern depends on how much you spend on the H4 unit. The cheap ones are abysmal, the more expensive ones are merely satisfactory."

 

 

 

*obviously this ruins things for people who want to keep everything absolutely stock.

Edited 29 June, 2016 by RainbowFire

[RicardoM]

...because we do actually understand the way lights work, and why they are made in such a way, and the consequences of going outside the specification and standards.

Well, good for you, light-master. Except that by "headlight HID kit" in my initial question I referred to approved (headlight housing + lenses + lamps + leveling system + washers) that fit on Felicia. For that matter a yes or no answer would have sufficed. For the rest I can google too, tyvm.

[RainbowFire]

Well, good for you, light-master. Except that by "headlight HID kit" in my initial question I referred to approved (headlight housing + lenses + lamps + leveling system + washers) that fit on Felicia. For that matter a yes or no answer would have sufficed. For the rest I can google too, tyvm.

 

Well, if you'd done the Google thing in the first place, you'd have got your precious "yes / no" answer.

 

You'd also have found that you can create a system, from various sources, using approved parts (although approved parts from dis-similar sources might not keep their approval status - although that approval status is only within the EU {E Approval system} so is unlikely to apply to the dominican republic). However, your "keeping everything stock" idea would be right out of the window, plus you'd be building a system "because you can/because is a challenge", neither of which appeal to you (apparently wastes time and money), which is why they were not mentioned.

 

(Actually, you don't need Google for that bit, most of if it has been on Briskoda.)

[RicardoM]

However, your "keeping everything stock" idea would be right out of the window, plus you'd be building a system "because you can/because is a challenge", neither of which appeal to you (apparently wastes time and money), which is why they were not mentioned.

 

Trying to see better at night on the road does not qualify as a waste of time and money.

[RainbowFire]

Trying to see better at night on the road does not qualify as a waste of time and money.

 

Well, good luck with your quest then, am surprised you haven't already done it.

[disco74]

The fluid is some sort of glycol, probably G11 coolant.

As for the Fabia servo for headlights, it is possible, not sure.

But I know for sure a Czech company sells a kit for Felicia.

 

 

Hi 

Please could someone let me know where I can get this kit from. It would be very much appreciated.

[RicardoM]

https://www.specialnielektronika.cz/Elektricke-naklapeni-svetel-FEL-d11_1021879866.htm