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The politicians and business men (car manufacturers exec) said they were greener. They were not completely wrong, just not the whole story. The scientists and engineers never, ever said they were problem free and fuel of the future. Everyone were fully aware that diesel was a minor evolution in emissions, it is still combustion. Only a foul would believe otherwise. But electric power is completely different, it is a revolution and it is the only way to achieve zero emission. Comparing the switch to BEV to diesel is like comparing chalk and cheese.

I think it's actually the opposite of your assessment of ratios. But who am I to judge, I'm just another raving nutter with prejudices. I simply place my trust in professionals and authorities. I mean, they can't all be bribed, can they?

Smart meters. Key isn’t what kind of dual rate meters, key is smart meters that reports half hourly consumption. Check out this thread:

The install is part of a trial funded by Innovate UK. Tax payer’s money to push V2X. https://iuk.ktn-uk.org/opportunities/v2x-innovation-programme-bi-directional-charging-demonstrations/ Invoice states “standard install for V2H trial” or something similar. Standard 20% VAT after checking. Standard smart meter, report consumption half hourly. On Intelligent Octopus Go tariff. Bi-directional charger basically means I can use Leaf EV as home battery. Nothing else is special. Batteries (and AI) are the new frontier.

And Vehicle-2-Home, I got my trial V2H bi-directional charger installed for just £1600, the AC-DC inverter itself costs way more than that. Thanks everyone 😛 It definitely works. First whole bill with it installed. Only 4% on not-cheap tariff, everything else on cheap tariff. Effective cost for me is just 8.14p/kWh +VAT for all electricity I've used. Again, thanks everyone for your tax contribution. 😛

Over 50% of London black cab fleet is now ZEC (zero emission capable). https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67639496 The LEVC black cabs are great to ride in and very well designed. Its hybrid powertrain is excellent because it is basically an 80 miles EV with an range extender ICE, just the way PHEV's should be.

Nice try on what, it's EXACTLY what you wrote, just added common sense and context because you are not making any. If demand is 20 MW and renwable is kicking out 50 MW, you will definitely be at 0p/kWh or even negative pricing to get people to soak up that excess. This is where smart meter helps because it allows energy price people pay to follow the wholesale price. Indeed they are missing out on sales, so they sell it cheaply and those who can, benefits. Follow the money, and demand & supply 101, they (energy suppliers) do it, it would be foolish not to do the same. We did have off-peak tariff before renwables, but that was to enable people to live with storage heating. The price is due to demand peak and troughs, just like rush hour, it is easier to get energy to people when there's less demand on the grid. This has never changed. The difference is rise of renewables that doesn't follow demand. As a result, wholesale price now varies greatly now compared to before, no longer due to simple demand peak and troughs. This is grid power mix over last 7 days: And yesterday's Agile tariff at grid's lowest demand was 3.3p/kWh. https://agileprices.co.uk/

It's "a case of more power consumed than the grid can cope with so at peak times they are asking people to delay plugging the EV in, ...... to save them having to fire up more gas fired generators to cover the excess loading." Thereby reduce the likelihood of using not-renewable sources by EV owners. When renewables are high, smart meter incentives are in place so people would "uses more power at a time when the excess energy produced would normally just be wasted". Think about what you wrote.

Getting paid to charge EV and/or use less are all due to variable renewable generation. Thus it stands to reason it is MORE likely that the actual kWh used by those participating are coming from green generation sources. EV households are, unfortunately, still the minority. There are large households who really do use a lot and usually couldn't give a hoot their energy sources. Their energy consumption rivals EV households. For example the plumber I usually use was here on Friday, he says his house energy direct debit is almost £300. Honest hard working man without smart meter, just a large multi-generation household. Feel free to doubt and be cynical, it's also not as clear cut as I'd have liked. But there isn't anything I've came across that suggests foul play with green tariffs.

Energy come from renewable does not equal to percentage of market. One is consumption of total energy. Latter is amount of customers signed up to this tariff, over total number of customers. Meaning, more high users not on green tariffs.

I have not seen this referenced by energy suppliers, only solar/wind/hydro. But they are using wording that allows inclusive of such sources, so DRAX is likely included despite it is only renewable in concept but it is still burning and producing pollution. At very least the carbon produced wasn't originally locked away underground. You have cynical opinions, entirely understandable. It would be useful to stick to facts. Key is digging up the facts from credible sources, and let that prove your point. The fact is there is accreditation for renewable tariffs. Here's one I found: https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/environmental-and-social-schemes/renewable-energy-guarantees-origin-rego

Accreditation or certification are meant for exactly that. Look at it’s methodology and stringentness. Just like many things brought up in this thread, text we type are worthless. In my day job, I went through a design assurance accreditation for my design, presented as design process example for my company. It was extremely thorough and no stone unturned. Any minor non conformity was put under a microscope.

You are both essentially saying the same thing, more people on green tariff makes it uneconomical and/or supplier use non-green to maximise profit. I agree and I cannot guarantee there is no greenwashing with all green tariffs without in-depth digging into their finances and reviewing their green accreditation. If you want to prove your theories, I suggest finding out how they gained their green accreditation would be the first place to start. I was only pointing out the method of paying green generators in green tariff is exactly how energy market works. There is no point tracing the exact energy source.

The thing is, none that I checked have used the word "supplied" or "supply" when talking about green energy. All are quite straight forward in their wording in what they mean. No one is trying to be untruthful. Famous Octopus: https://octopus.energy/ Smaller Ovo: https://www.ovoenergy.com/green-energy Legacy British Gas: https://www.britishgas.co.uk/energy/go-green/green-future-tariffs.html Yes, the kWh I take may not have came from renewable sources. But if for the kWh I used, I paid renewable "green" generation to put it on the grid, then I am, in effect, receiving green electricity. Think of the grid as as a big bucket. Anything I take from it is put back by green sources. The more people participate paying green sources, the more incentive for green generation, the more green generators. Demand'n'supply 101. So why does it matter where that particular kWh came from?

This Norwegian garage took apart a submerged M3 battery and it's very interesting to see what goes on inside the failed battery. They concluded they need 2 more modules out of 4 in total, so it was not worth repairing. I'm sure the usable modules will be kept for other vehicle though. Suspected cause for submerged battery failure is due to breather thingy letting water in. (video starts at that point) Shame Tesla uses so much glue in their battery and must replace modules, 4 huge modules in this pack. Nissan Leaf, of course one of simplest EV, can easily replace stuff right down to individual cells. (earlier video in this channel had repaired a 2011 Leaf)

Honda Insight hybrid? The hypermile king. Toyota Prius hybrid, London Uber driver's favourite before Niro EV took over in recent years. I don't remember Nissan made anything specially "green" until Nissan Leaf.

I personally think it's a mistake to for parallel hybrid to have capacity to charge on rapid chargers. Especially with such a small battery on that huge vehicle. Its main EV mode use is local. When going further afield, it's not going to be able to rely on battery for meaningful distance or driving power with just 107 hp under powered motor. Satnav would have the ability to keep charge until in city traffic, so what's the point of rapid charging on a mostly petrol vehicle? 32 kW is terrible rate for a new vehicle, and in real life it's not even getting that! My 9 yo Leaf with just 18 kWh capacity can still charge at 48 kW. These days, serial hybrid should be minimum for PHEV. Then there is a point for rapid charging, just like the 22 kWh i3 REx.

Wrong, back at you. Let's see the bold bits that is exactly what I've said: To which you only replied regarding EV's and did not mention walking anywhere. If you are going to post a comment, expect it to be read by everyone. If you are going to argue the toss, at very least look back yourself. If you are going to ignore my accusation that you never previously acknowledged benefits of EV in the Auz outback, then don't acknowledge my post by quoting it. So a few people cannot escape natural disaster is a concern for all of humanity. But rapid de-carbonisation to slow down climate change isn't a concern for all of humanity? Have you considered why we are seeing more frequent natural disasters? Which looses more food production: death of a few farm owners or more frequent natural disasters? I sense car park fire fiasco all over again. I remember you said EV catching file when parked next to eachother was the holistic view. Ignoring risk factor and the need to de-carbonise. Once again, I don't see any point continuing this conversation. Because, as pointed out many times, we are armchair "expoerts", we are wasting our time arguing something that is 10+ years down the line. So I won't be wasting my time. Good day.

According to Eastbourne airshow, audience travel makes up over 95% of emissions. https://www.visiteastbourne.com/airshow/plan-your-visit/sustainability It was sunny few weeks and that trip was charged from my rooftop solar when I went this year. The car park I used was mostly ICE cars. May be they need to get more people driving EV Can't argue with the second point. Also flying for holidays, which I have done multiple times yearly.

Glad you recognise the up sides. In case you weren't aware, you never directly acknowledged the benefits of electrification in the Australia outback. You brushed off all benefits, "over simplification", and focused on extreme cases. Although very valid concern for someone living in such situation, it is similar to EV fires, we are discussing this as armchair experts. We have very little to add. In such extreme remote area, EV would not be the sole answer, it will only be part of their fleet, the daily driver. No one has ever said it is the sole answer for everyone on Earth. But as already been pointed out, the individual only need to worry about finding solution after 5-15 years of ban of new ICE sales. However, it has also been pointed out, does it concern us? In a small country that the longest distance end-to-end is less than 900 miles. Almost never 50 miles away from civilisation. Here, EV is very suitable for overwhelming vast majority and should be adopted as quickly as possible.

Before heading back, quickly check home battery. If not enough to recharge, pop to the nearest rapid charger. The key is, as always been, living off the land. In places with known unreliable power grid, solar and battery transforms people's living standards. EV can only add to this sense of freedom. Africa are making good use of their solar. Don't need the stinking grid. https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/09/africa-solar-power-potential/ Imagine you have a mini diesel well at back of your garden and can top up your car with it for free.

In GB (no idea about Ireland), you only need contactless. Regulations for this have been in place for many months. It's quite simple: All rapids take contactless. But that need mobile coverage, so RFID cards are known to be more reliable. Get Electroverse card if you want a small discount on most networks, also works with many in mainland Europe. No pre-auth. Get Tesla app if you want to charge on their network with their older V2 and V3, they are cheapest most reliable network. Works across the world. Get CPS card if going to Scotland. 😅 They do take contactless as per regs, but Scotland is huge and mobile signals don't reach everywhere. For apps, I only have 2 for finding EV charge points: Electroverse (to quickly find rapid charger hubs using my filter with min chargers per location) Zapmap (I use it to find destination chargers, no filter) I use ABRP website on computer the same way I use Google maps when checking out somewhere new. Some people like WattsApp, replacing ABRP and Electroverse apps. There's also PlugShare, that's more US and Europe focused. Thanks very much Lucky, I'll add in payment card and re-request RFID next year, if nothing turns up over Xmas. It was £10 up front last time I checked, which was in 2017/2018 when I was requesting every single card I may possibly ever need.

I just want the RFID in my collection in case I venture up there. I don't want to pay until I actually do go, hence haven't added bank card yet. Physical card delivery takes a few weeks, adding a bank card online can be done the night before I travel, or even when I get there. Electroverse sends out cards for free. Chargemaster/Polar used to send out cards for free with their free membership trial. I have a few There's also 2 other cards, I forgot the company, used during early days. It's always useful to have the cards than not have them when needed.

Electroverse card certainly seems like one card to rule them all, including travelling in mainland Europe. Their cards are free and I've got 2, one for each car's glovebox. Also worth having the Tesla app if not driving a Tesla vehicle, for those older V2 and V3 locations. V4 location takes contactless directly. Only exception around here are Podpoint, BP Pulse and Gridserve. All those rapid charger takes contactless. (unsure if take Amex, sorry) I really can't see the need for any membership complexity these days. Everything is now miles better than a few years ago. Except if going to Scotland, CPS card seems would be useful, from the look of things mentioned above about mobile signals. Just yesterday, I've created CPS account because it now says cost of the card will be charged in the first invoice. I didn't add bank card, requested the RFID card. But now it's asking me to add a bank card to being using the network. 🙄 We shall see if my RFID get delivered.

"Best electric car charging stations 2024: UK's top charger networks rated by EV owners" https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/features/352089/best-electric-car-charging-stations-2024-uks-top-charger-networks-rated-ev-owners Unsurprisingly, Tesla got 1 spot for every metric except location of chargers. They are at back of hotel car park in some locations. Also came across this site for those interested. Public charging per-mile and per-kWh summarised: https://leccy.net/charging/public#mile