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@KingRoach You could check with Skoda UK Customer Services if it shows not affected because it has already been carried out. They messed about starting the campaign then had to stop and then sort their act out as it messed up cars. http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/471240-euro-5-12-tdi-emissions-fix-have-you-had-it-done

@KingRoach Was your car in for the Fix? (maybe ruined unfortunately with the new engine management!) 1.2TDI's were part of it. Or does it show as not done. Maybe not one that was part of the Voluntary recall / VW Group experimenting. http://skoda-auto.com/services/recall-actions

I think there was lots of that going on and lots more BS than actual speed. I was an Apprentice Motor Mechanic and where i worked and where my mates and family did we had been tuning racing karts and had we had Scooters and Bikes we ran about on before we had to have mopeds so that we could be legal for a year. They never really went further than along the coast between Arbroath & Dundee and they were an embarrassment.

@ColinD Maybe go check out a MG5 Long Range Estate. Great Value if you can get one. I find them comfortable. (You might as well totally rule out any PSA / Stellantis 50kW battery vehicles as you will not get 200 miles range even if they do software and hardware changes next year.)

@lol-lolMy one even with a hot plug could not do 50 one up, and 2 up at 10 mph we could not get around a hut on smooth tar at Barry Buddon Army camp and went right into the corner of the building. I blame the plonker on the back for that.

@wyx087 The major point is that i would be OK owning a petrol car bought now to be a keeper, even with GPF's. i would not take a current diesel to own in another 8 years time, and certainly not any EV currently available. I owned Jimny's that i had for 17 & 14 years. They never bettered 25 mpg. I had a Saxo for 11 years that did 42 mpg regardless of season. I have a 14 year old diesel that does 26 mpg regardless of the weather or even if towing a car transporter. I go 10 mph slower when towing. Poorer fuel economy in winter is not something i have ever had in Scottish Winters in 5 decades. (Other than my 2016 Alhambra TDI /SCR / DSG that was not suitable for doing only a mile or 2 in cold weather but then not in summer either as 45 mpg-60 mpg became 25 mpg over a few days of just going a few miles a day.) But then the winter thing with petrols is that there is no need for poor economy in colder weather. You go slower when it is cold if the roads are cold and even winter tyres need not use more fuel. If doing short cold start trips do not use a fuel guzzler to do them. Do not leave cars sitting running to de-ice / de-frost them before setting off. Rather use a heater in the vehicle if possible to keep it from icing up. (If you can charge a EV off street at home then what stopped you using a Greenhouse heater in vehicles?) Location locations driven and how you drive i suppose. I get 46 mpg with my 11 year old 1.6 n/a Auto Suzuki, i got 45 mpg with my Mk2 Fabia vRS's and 42mpg with my 1.1 Auto Picanto over 6 years. 50 mpg per gallon in a tank with the 100 ps 1.2 7 speed auto PSA cars is easily achieved including with the Combo Life.

@domhnall I wanted to be able to easily lift bikes including e-Bikes onto the roof. This was the priority, and also a car that was fun to drive and to see if it could be done for free rapid charging. That was possible in Scotland South of Perth and still is, but not so once North of Perth anymore. I did not want a e-Citigo or a car the size / height of an Enyaq which i could not get and would not get from Motability for £63 a week. I did not enjoy driving a Zoe but almost went to get one when the Advance Payments on them dropped. I would not have taken a ID3 regardless of cost. If the MG Estate had been out when i ordered my car it would have been what i had gone for. Bikes inside if not on the roof. I would actually go for the Long Range one now over a Enyaq or I.D.4 just because i like there practicality and that they are not an Enyaq or I.D.4. I am just not a fan.

@wyx087 If i was going to go out and buy a keeper it would not be a New Corsa EV if not able to charge at home cheaply or free elsewhere. If i wanted to buy a Corsa as a keeper it would be a petrol / automatic one. (I would not though, i wanted to buy a Mk4 Fabia Estate petrol / auto but it looks like they are not to be.) Corsa-e 70 reg 10 miles £22,000 2.7 miles per kWh for 10,000 miles 3703 kWh @ 20 pence £740. If getting 3 miles per hour but 30 pence a kWh public charging to pay 3333 kWh is £999. Corsa 1.2 100 ps 7speed Auto £17,327 Brand New. Includes first year VED. so to pay after year 1 £180, I luckily get free VED / Disabled Class) 50 mpg for10,000 miles 200 gallons @ £7 a gallon £1,400 (the 50 mpg is easily achievable driving the same way as the EV needs driven to get even 2.7 miles per kWh.

@domhnall It is not just a Tesla thing. A software update might improve things and it can not be over the air updates. The battery does lose actual energy as it can be left and needs more charging to get it back to where it was when left. There are 2 Service Campaign items with the Corsa-e that Arnold Clark call Recalls without actually doing a call that there is a RECALL. They managed to Service the car without a EV Qualified Technician and doing nothing but messing up the Service Reminder and the Updates notices which the car no longer sends to my phone or shows. They are not getting the car until they guarantee a courtesy car for 4 days. I know when they get a car for a Recall that should take a few hours they end up having them for 2 and fail to actually carry out the work. I would be quite happy if they do mess things up as i would then hand the car back and give EV's a miss for a year or 3. If i went for a 10 mile run this would show 50 miles or so of a range.

I had a F1SE. A moped that 16 year olds can drive is still restricted as to power and top speed even though this is very much kidology. Rory is just too loose with his terminology for a motoring journalist. Ps. My pals Garelli was a much better moped than mile.

Autocar / What Car so Haymarket media group have made cars Car of the year when none were yet with Owners in the UK and they had tested left hand drive media cars only. Lord Michael Hesaltine,s publishing group that does work for VW Group and even vehicle launches are never that quick on anything critical and certainly after bigging up models like the Mk3 Fabia and telling readers about future value etc never update on the Recalls and faults as the 1.4 TDI had, water pump failures and other issues.

The 2 of them are in a Corsa -e driving so only need to maybe actually drive 20 miles or preferably more and see what the miles per kWh shown with 2 grown men in the car. Work out on that figure. The Lightest model on 16" 195 tyres differs from heavier more expensive on 17" 205 tyres, then the tyres are crappy Primacy 4 ditch finders that might mean best leave the car at home on snowy / icy roads. They says real range estimate ? Are they actually driving them. I take it not as they are using Manufacturers figures and ones that the PSA calculator gives. The 255 miles estimate is something that requires you to not exceed 40 mph on a route with renegening a plenty. Inflate the tyres more than you would normally. I nearly achieved that one day but that was during night time. I could buy or lease and run a new Corsa petrol automatic over 4 years so much cheaper than an electric if having to pay 20 pence min a kWh for electric if not getting a low cost home tariff or free charging. That is using real world maths. Be that 7,500 miles a year or 12,000.

^^^^ I had a laugh at this, the 3.8 mile per kWh is fiction or town / city driving. Not sure who the Independents were that were getting this. 171 miles from the 45KW would be going slow in a car with just a driver and not much else in warm weather. You will not have 50 kW usable so 190 miles takes hypermiling to achieve. The service and maintenance and VED cost of a petrol Corsa over 4 years is a ridiculous figure also. OT. Vicky in the Hybrid was a pretty pointless bit in this show. Loved the Renault 5 ish EV. PS sitting charging my Corsa e now free. Heated seat and steering wheel and heater on full was great to drive the mile to the charger. In the past 48 hours the car had done 2 miles since charged to 50%. It had lost 15% by the time back on the charger this morning. At this temp of below 4 degree c getting 2 miles per kWh around town is about as good as it gets.

^^^ Thankfully that type of increase in insurance premium are not what can be what many insurance underwriters / brokers impose. I have had vehicles that as many as 8 of those modifications & the Modified Vehicles insurance has been no more than a standard vehicle from the factory would be.

Welcome to the forum. Have you asking Skoda UK Customer Services about your actual order & build date and changes as well as asking the Supplying Dealership? It seems amazing to me that cars are going to arrive in 2022 that were ordered so long ago without an increase in price. The Chip Shortage and other factors must have had a huge affect on availability of many components and systems. http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/499600-is-canton-really-that-bad Maybe you have dodged a bullet.

I like how the battery can be removed (& replaced) . An expensive Electric Scooter. (but then there are more expensive e-Bikes about.) There are no such things as 125 cc 'mopeds' are there? Mopeds as as specced in UK Law / Regulations. There are Electric Mopeds.

Good that there are people that know their stuff to pass on.

I keep it simple and think of the first week of a year as 0-'1' and the last as '52'. Then it is all taken as approx from then on with what you are told.

216 kWh @ 46 pence a kWh £99.36. So no better than an economic ICE unless you are saving on Parking / Congestion / Low Emission Zones etc. That 3.3 kWh is in an empty car other than a driver. The energy use in a loaded car in cold weather is what many need to know. ..................... Below is Real World for some. Drive a Sporty car normally on your own, so just travelling and getting some free to the driver electricity & then adding 85 miles takes 45 minutes and costs £12.97. That was a cheap charge really on a not very quick charger. It could have been quicker elsewhere and maybe 50% more expensive. 32 kW @ 40 pence a kWh = £12.80 Or it could be 32 kW @ 69 pence a kWh = £22.08 for 85 miles. @10 minutes. then at 24 minutes.

@xmani got a reply from @domhnallon youtube. Skoda powerpass. Skoda / VW deal with Ionity. so 25 pence a kWh. 714 miles @ 3.3 kWh = 216 kWh used so @ 25 pence a kWh if paying that for all electricity that is £54 i think. If the first charge is at a Domestic price per kWh or free CPS charge or workplace then that is less. 714 miles getting maybe 50 mpg with a diesel and paying £7 a gallon is £99.96 But then you could travel a few miles less if not having to head to EV chargers. 216 kWh @ 42 pence a kWh £90.72 216 kWh @ 69 pence a kWh £149.04

@KenONeill This is the Truth of things if you travel with passengers and some might be children. Sitting in a car for 40 minutes every 150 miles or sooner or getting out the car while it charges and possibly spending more. It can start to get expensive if it means buying food and drink where normally you would not. *Lots of Chargers around Scotland have no toilets or other facilities near them if they are CPS chargers, and even Commercial Chargers are not at places where the toilets are going to be close or open.* Last week with Grand Children in my car trying to get a charge near the Livingston was a total PITA. I did not go to Harthill Services and pay to charge & pay for the munchies they would have wanted, but i should of instead of wasting time at Whitburn and then Broxburn where the chargers were broken or occupied & where i wanted to go to a Fish & Chip Shop while charging. I count in an extra hour travel time for every 150 miles and often this is not enough time actually. £9 for every 135 miles is what it would cost me at the cheapest of chargers and that can go to £12 and even £17 if i want a quicker charge. If i was using an Ionity Charger & paying 69 pence a kWh then 45 kWh would be £31. Getting 2.7 miles per kWh that would be for 121 miles. If i was to get 3.5 miles per kWh then 157 miles. (If i was getting Ionity charging @ 25 pence a kWh and doing 2.7 miles per kWh it would be £33.75 for 363 miles, which is OK by me. ) 4 gallons of petrol @ £7 a gallon and getting 45 mpg takes you 180 miles.

Cold & then even colder makes such a difference. Pre warming helps things.

@domhnallThanks for that. How much are you paying per kWh using Ionity chargers? Is it cheaper because of some scheme / plan you got with the Enyaq? That sort of range will suit many. Good that it was a start on a cold day. They just need to understand that it might take longer to charge and cost a bit more because they will use more electricity when colder & with a full car. Was that just you in the car & have you been doing trips with 3 or 4 people in the car yet? http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/499773-charge-range-reduction