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Single Mass Flywheel Conversion

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Does anyone know of a single mass flywheel for the 2.0 TDI?

I know devonmikeyboy was running one on his slightly fettled 2.0 TDI.

I heard skoda do an SMF kit for taxi's but is this for the 1.9 only or does anyone know if they do one for the 2.0?

Thanks :thumbup:

why do the taxi's get special treatment?

Because we drive the **** out of them :rofl::rofl::rofl:

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Because they go through DMF's at a rather fast rate as they are not really suited to that sort of driving.

Oddly enough Taxi will probably know who told me about this too.

The DMF seriously is a brain-dead bit of over engineering backed up by manufacturing down to cost.

Hmm I have a spare SMF from a SDi, wonder how that would work? Not sure on sizes, will have to check.

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Hmm I have a spare SMF from a SDi, wonder how that would work? Not sure on sizes, will have to check.

Would be much appreciate Ross. :thumbup:

Will be having a chat with skoda, but I think I'm fairly certain yet another DMF is starting to fail on me. :(

Oddly enough there was an Honest John article in the paper that was questioning if modern dervs are worth it now due to DMF and turbo issues they all seem to have.

hmm so whats the point in a dmf?

It supposedly reduces vibration by damping the link between the crankshaft and the gearbox. However, if you boot it at very low revs (mechanically unsympathetic IMHO), you can mash the internals...

had a dual mass flywheel on my focus tdci, all i know is the ecu used to cut the engine out at about 800rpm to protect the dmf, as a result it was the easiest car in the world to stall and went with one hell of a bang when it did stall

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The focus did protect it's DMF on the 115 1.8 TDCI, but still one died on the fathers car. IIRC the ford garage said it was common on that engine.

A DMF is IMHO bad because if you have always driven diesel using the low revs then you can't drive how you are used to driving.

When I say from low revs I don't mean booting it from low, just using the torque to pull you around most places below 2k rpm and save fuel. After all that is the whole point of a derv, not having ot rev it hard to get around.

The DMF has springs in it that compress every time you accelerate so they are eventually going to wear out anyway. They are obviously not, IMHO, strong enough for a high torque engine and hence the problems people are seeing in all brands of car.

Basically IMHO, a heavier SMF would have damped the car just fine as would a small pre injection of fuel or a number of things which are simpler in design that a DMF.

In all the cars I've ever drive we have never replaced a flywheel even on ones doing 150-250k miles.

Sure both of those had a new clutch, but then the cars were been driven by 2 or 3 people and one or more of those were new drivers.

It now looks like 80k is standard for a new clutch and flywheel. I've been through more than one of both and the car hasn't even hit 50k yet.

mines was the 1.8 100 tdci, does the vRS TFSi have a dmf then?

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No idea on the petrol engines I'm affraid.

Yes it does. :(

The clutch is 240mm on both vehicles, and I understand they have the same gearbox and flywheels too.

However the TFSI isn't as agressive with the torque, so should be more durable. :)

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Will replace the DMF on my vRS TDI 2007 next Monday...

The new flywheel/clutch kit is made by ZF Sachs; P/N 883089 000034

This is a complete kit with solid flywheel and organic clutch, just the releaser is missing

Have done this DMF to SMF conversion on a Volvo V70 2.5T including the Sachs clutch, no problem except for a very heavy clutch pedal...

The clutch designed for the 2.0 TDI will survive up to 530Nm of torque:thumbup:

I will report more later, good news and eventually bad news

Bye from Sweden

0294001_EB883089000034.pdf

Interesting that is thanks :thumbup:

Spoke to SUK last week and asked them about a SMF for 1.9 but they no nothing about it and CZ don,t talk technical to public enqiuries.Mine is needed to be done soon as its juddering like crazy now and when you drive in 4th at 30mph or lower its juddering most of the time.

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Give Kate at JKM a call.

They told me they had a 1.9 DMF conversion, but that the 2.0 was in the works a good few months back now.

On that note I'd be fairly confident if there is one available for the 1.9 they will be able to supply and fit it for a fair price.

Thanks mate :thumbup: still got 18 months warranty left so will get done at dealer soon before self destruction happens.

I'd book it in before they'd have to tow me out of some busy junction.

Hi Guys,

Yes SACHS Clutch kit and flywheel modules for both the 1.9 and 2.0 TDI engines are now both available.

These kits replace the troublesome dual mass flywheel with a high quality billet steel one and a specific heavy duty clutch with torsion damper.

The retail price on both kits is £864.91 plus VAT

Fitting is £250 plus VAT

You also need to allow a few extra pennies approx £20 or so for new bolts etc.

Not fitted one as yet, but SACHS have had great feed back from customers who had them fitted direct by of SACHS during the testing period.

Kind Regards

Kate

Hi, I had my clutch kit and flywheel modules replaced 2 weeks ago on my Octy 1.9 six months old with 13.000 Kilometers. My garage said that they replaced in warranty my troublesome dual mass flywheel with a SACHS kit.

All works fine, except for a noisy thing: when the engine pass from "active" mode to cut-off mode, both accelerating and decelerating, I feel the car very "nervous"! It seems like there's a gap and a delay between the gearbox and wheels when spinning. They said that nothing is wrong in the car, but they suppose that there's an ECU map problem handling the new clutch configuration (my car is a DPF one), because of the difference between the old flywheel and the new one, and a new map isn't available yet in Skoda... Are they right or wrong?

Thanks, and sorry for my awful english... :o

How ruddy much!!!!! ERM i think i'll give it a miss!

I took our 55 plate 140 bhp dsg Elegance in for a checkover befor the warranty runs out next month. They said alls well apart from a squeek from the starter which i was not aware of until i heard simular Skoda start up and heard the differance.They replaced the starter and flywheel under warranty and boy was i glad it happened before warranty runs out.When i read about other guys having problems on this i thought it would have all sorts of weird effects but ours had none of that.Well done Saunders Abbots.

:eek::eek: how much.I think i let dealer do it under warranty.

I wish mine was under warrenty!

If anyone see's mine around the sheffield area with the hazards on, you know my DMF has gone twang!

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