Just about to buy my second Octy, and am wondering about DSG. Don't really know anything it. Is it a standard auto or is there something special about it? Is it any good? Would you recommend it? Does it impact on fuel consumption that much? (I would be combining it with the 2 litre diesel most likely).

Its got 6 grears. Its as smooth as silk to drive. Im getting 45 mpg out of my 19TDI around town after driving 7k. It has a tip tronic mode. You can tow a caravan with it (if you are into that sort of thing).

IMHO its worth every penny:thumbup:

The main thing is, its not an auto hence the good MPG.

but it will drive like an auto if you so wish, with all the benefits of manual

True is changes gear automatically, I ws just refering to the fact mechanically its a six speed manual gearbox.

I have a 2.0 tdi DSG and just love it - Each trip is too short :-)

Is it me, or do other DSG owners have absolutely NO jolting from their DSG at any time, especially when driving around town in start stop traffic? On the move you hardly notice the gear change but around town it can be very jolty if you come on and off the gas.

If your on and off the gas it can get a little confused.

Is it me, or do other DSG owners have absolutely NO jolting from their DSG at any time, especially when driving around town in start stop traffic? On the move you hardly notice the gear change but around town it can be very jolty if you come on and off the gas.

My 105 BHP (19TDI) is fine, as I say smooth as silk. My Octy is on a 57 plate.

you can't help not to like S mode :-)

as i was crossing the bypass by work the other day a 3.2TT with DSG pulled away from the lights and i loved hearing it change gear in no time at all at full chat

The old fellas one is pretty cool.

Liked DSG so much we have two cars with it in our house, both 2.0 TDi, one now at 66k and the other at 36k, no gearbox probs with either and mine has been driven er, enthusiastically and SWMBO's is too when she lets me borrow it

I've ordered mine, octy vrs dsg..had a test drive in a 'normal' octy dsg, and was soooo much fun:)..can't wait to get the vrs..here's all the info you need

DSG automatic transmission

DSG (Direct Shift Gearbox) transmission is a breakthrough in passenger car transmissions because it makes full use of the advantages and simultaneously reduces the inherited imperfections of manual and standard automatic transmissions. The DSG transmission provides convenient gear-changing without interrupting the transmission of power. An instruction for changing is produced either automatically by the electronic control unit or manually from the gear selector with the Tiptronic manual gear-changing regime.

DSG can be described as a mechanism consisting of two standard transmissions ? it has two clutches joined by two input shafts. One section of the transmission is used for odd numbered gear changes and reverse; the other for even numbered gear changes.

The functions of the transmission can be illustrated by the following example: if a car is in third gear, the intelligent transmission control identifies the next gear to be selected according to the speed and other parameters and changes to it. This, for example, fourth gear, has already been preset but is not active because the clutch that controls the even gears is not engaged. The transmission control unit waits for the most suitable moment to change the gear, which it then carries out by disconnecting the clutch for uneven gears and simultaneously connecting the clutch for even gears. Changing is absolutely smooth, without any juddering, and quick ? it takes about 3 to 4 hundredths of a second. In addition, the transmission of power from the engine to the wheels is not interrupted during the changing.

The DSG automatic transmission in the new ?koda Octavia has two operating regimes ? fully automatic or Tiptronic manual gear-changing. The regime is selected by moving the selector to the required position, i.e. to the left for the automatic regime and to the right for the manual regime. Cars equipped with automatic transmission also have the multi-function display on the instrument panel as standard, which shows information about the gear engaged and the actual position of the selector.

The following positions can be selected in the automatic operating regime:

P ? parking

R ? reverse

N ? neutral

D ? drive, economical gear changing mode

S ? sporty gear changing mode

With the sporty gear-changing mode, the transmission changes between individual gears at higher revolutions and thus allows the full output of the engine to be used. In the economical mode, on the other hand, the transmission changes earlier and thus keeps consumption low.

In the Tiptronic manual gear-changing regime, a higher or lower gear is engaged by moving the selector forwards and backwards, as appropriate: direction "+" ? change to a higher gear, direction "?" ? change to a lower gear.

With manual gear-changing, the electronic systems of the transmission monitors the way gears are changed and thus prevents engine damage that could result from an inappropriate change to a lower gear. In addition to monitoring, the control electronics makes operation easier, e.g. changing to first gear after stopping at a junction.

As a result of the quick gear-changing, the DSG transmission has better acceleration than a manual transmission. The electronic control of the transmission and engine makes the DSG transmission more economical because it selects the most appropriate gear and keeps the engine in the optimum operating regime in the economical driving mode. Moreover, its excellent driving characteristics and easy control places the DSG transmission firmly at the top of automatic transmissions. And last but not least, it can provide a so far unknown driving experience for a sporty driver with its extremely quick gear changing without having to lift your foot off the accelerator pedal.

Test drove a VW Eos with DSG a couple of days ago, and was amazed at how good it was. I'd previously driven a Passat with DSG about two years ago, and had all sorts of problems.

I'm guessing that they must have got the software sorted out now, as I managed to really confuse it when I drove it previously. The biggest issue I saw was when you had to pull up and brake sharply. The gearbox got really wrong footed, as it suddenly had to go from 6th down to 1st. Once it did so, the car then lurched forward, causing me to have to stamp on the brakes again.

I tried the same trick with the Eos, and it behaved perfectly.

I'm seriously thinking about getting it when I order my new Superb.

Bagpuss.

I would not go back to a manual personally. DSG is too good.

I would not go back to a manual personally. DSG is too good.

Your dead right

I like the DSG box a lot, much better than a conventional auto.

I do find manual boxes much more involving though.

I just traded in my DSG to go back to a manual (octavia to BMW 1).

Really liked the DSG and miss it already, but had other reason to change breeds that I don't regret - wanted smaller car, much smoother engine and drive, much better economy.

The shear joy of "push and go" from the dsg meant that I drove it quite hard - it really urges you to squirt between the conner on twisty roads!

What I will say 'tho is that DSG does hurt economy a bit (one of my reasons to go back to a manual). Probably not affected as badly as a conventional auto but still there none the less.

I had a manual courtesy Octavia of the same spec for a month (long story) and got about 5mpg more.

Agree about the economy, the official figures are some what optimistic for mpg. My old Oct 2.0 tdi manual would cover 500miles between fill-ups. The new L&K 2.0 tdi with DSG is only doing 450 tops, and usually covers just 400 miles before fill-ups. So that makes it 15% lower average mpg than the manual, 20% at worst and 10% at best. Make of that what you will but I cannot get anywhere near the official figures Skoda quote (47.1 mpg combined).

The new 7-speed DSG box doesn't impact on economy or emissions at all. This is because it of the new dry clutch arrangement, which they reckon results in a 10% improvement in fuel economy compared to the wet clutch DSG, and a 6% improvement over a normal manual.

There's more information here:

LuK | Press Office | Press releases*|* World Premiere: LuK dual dry clutch 7-speed DSG gearbox in volume production at Volkswagen

The only problem is that the new gearbox can only handle a maximum of 184lb/ft of torque (250Nm), so it isn't suitable for the more powerful diesel engined cars yet.

The gearbox is currently available on 1.4TSi, 1.8TSi 160 and 1.9TDi 105 engines. Sadly, it's not yet available on the Octavia, but I'm sure it will come soon. Once the Superb is officially with us, then I'm sure that the 1.8TSi 160 in the Octavia will see DSG as an option.

Bagpuss.

The new 7-speed DSG box doesn't impact on economy or emissions at all. This is because it of the new dry clutch arrangement, which they reckon results in a 10% improvement in fuel economy compared to the wet clutch DSG, and a 6% improvement over a normal manual.

There's more information here:

LuK | Press Office | Press releases*|* World Premiere: LuK dual dry clutch 7-speed DSG gearbox in volume production at Volkswagen

The only problem is that the new gearbox can only handle a maximum of 184lb/ft of torque (250Nm), so it isn't suitable for the more powerful diesel engined cars yet.

The gearbox is currently available on 1.4TSi, 1.8TSi 160 and 1.9TDi 105 engines. Sadly, it's not yet available on the Octavia, but I'm sure it will come soon. Once the Superb is officially with us, then I'm sure that the 1.8TSi 160 in the Octavia will see DSG as an option.

Bagpuss.

I would be surprised if there is no effect on economy, after all a DSG equiped car is 40 kilos heavier than a standard boxed model.

I am not trying to put down DSG's here - I still think they are a suberb bit of kit but facts are facts

Taken from the VW website, the official figures for the Golf Match 1.9TDI with 7 speed DSG are as follows;

MPG Urban - 32.1

MPG Urban Extra - 51.4

MPG Combined - 42.2

So from those official figures I'd say the 7 speed DSG is no more economical than the conventional 6 speed DSG.

Took my 2 years old PD140 with DSG in for annual service this week (no problems just routine service) and was chatting to the Sales manger who mentioned that:

Both they, Skoda, and the VW dealers next door have each had 1 new PD140 with DSG engined motor that required new clutches fitting because the DSG boxes were very rough changing gear - this was from on NEW cars within the past 2 months.

Do not know if this is a common problem with a possible bad batch of clutches - have any of our techy members come across this recently.

Many thanks for all your comments. Based on all this, I've just bought myself a 2.0TDi estate with DSG. Picking it up on Wednesday. Trading in my hatch 2.0 manual. We'll see how it goes. Was mightily impressed on test drive.