Has any one had a custom remap off VSPORT, Boldon, tyne and wear.

Only found out about this place yesterday and it is less than a mile away!

Spoke to the guy in charge and he says he has done several remaps for octy vrs'..anybody from here?..one of the printouts was displayed on the wall.

The owner etc all seem very knowledgeble so I might get the car remapped there.

The email in which I received:

Typical gains for a standard car of your type is around 45 bhp and 60 ft/lb of torque, the last one remapped gained 43 bhp and 63 ft/lb. With your mods you should see similar or better gains.

We live map all of our cars on the Rolling Road to ensure the remap is as accurate and precise as possible to give a good smooth drive that not only offers huge gains in performance but we also map in some ecomomy points to suit your driving style. We also offer a 14 day money back guarantee, if you are not happy with the remap in this time we will fine tune the remap to meet your requirements, if this does not help we will offer you your money back in full. To date, not 1 person has come back for a refund so we are confident you will be 100% satisfied.

Our remaps include the following:

Stage 1: full engine and car check, and diagnostics test

Stage 2: Rolling road power run to measure max power and torque

Stage 3: Ecu remap

Stage 4: rolling road power runs to measure max power and torque

Stage 5: Diagnostic test to ensure all engine sensors are working well after the remap

Stage 6: Road test.

The cost of all of the above including Labour and VAT comes to £350.

Hope this helps and look forward to hearing from you soon,

P.s we are always open for club dyno days and have had many magazine features, our dyno has a feature called 'shootout mode' which ensures every car run on the day is subject to the exact same power test to give an accurate and reliable comparison between cars. Prices are from £30 a car.

Also it would be god to arrange a rolling road day for members from the north east

mmm they sound good,

well priced too.

will be interestin to see what ppl think of the map.

shame they all the way up north, shame I not still at catterick....

I haven't had a remap from him and to be honest I wouldn't. He has been there a year gone June and predominantly does work on chaved up corsa's or similar.

Try talking to Damien at DPM.

Another option is MB Motorsport who are Jabba agents and can do a Jabba Generic map.

MB Motorsport

Unit 9a-9b Victoria Ind Est

Hebburn

Tyne and Wear

NE31 1UB

0191 4894239

Both have extensive knowledge of the VAG range, including re-maps.

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Although V-sport claim "custom" remaps I think are actually generic maps done on his rollers.

I know he has a print out of a remapped vRS on the wall but it looks very "perfect" in that its exactly the same shape as a OEM graph and plus 45bhp.

I know of no-body who has had a re-map done by him, where DPM & MB I do.

Another thing to note is his technique of dyno-ing your car, well my car, slamming the brakes on to stop the rollers:eek: I know. I actually read a thread in the maintenance & performance section here in May time about someone doing this and it hashes the results.

Any way I had a bad experience with this place so I have bad opinion, where I have used DPM and haven't a bad thing to say about Damien or his work.

I have had a custom remap done by them, as I only live near Mboro. It cost £350 And i have 234BHP cant remember the torque I will try scan all the graphs I got for you .

Also i watched everything and he seems to know his stuff.

I haven't had a remap from him and to be honest I wouldn't.

Can I ask why not?

He has been there a year gone June and predominantly does work on chaved up corsa's or similar.

In fact I have been using Vsport for nearly 2 years, Very rarely are there any 'chavved up cars' as you put it. I was there last week, at present they have a Noble M12 GT3 race car and a track spec Westfield that they are building for motorsport customers, infact most of their work is now based around motorsport teams and industry.

Although V-sport claim "custom" remaps I think are actually generic maps done on his rollers.

What you may think and what you know are very different things. All of Vsports remaps are custom written to the vehicles, I have sat there with them while they write and map them to the cars.

I know he has a print out of a remapped vRS on the wall but it looks very "perfect" in that its exactly the same shape as a OEM graph and plus 45bhp.

Well, you have clearly no idea about remapping then, take some lessons on how to read a power graph, Having a graph that is smooth and 'perfect' as you call it is a sign of very good mapping

I know of no-body who has had a re-map done by him,

So clearly you cannot comment on their remaps then and you are just giving your own uneducated opinion?

Another thing to note is his technique of dyno-ing your car, well my car, slamming the brakes on to stop the rollers:eek: I know. I actually read a thread in the maintenance & performance section here in May time about someone doing this and it hashes the results.

Applying the breaks at the end of a dyno run to stop the rollers spinning is common practice on Dyno Dynamics dynos. If you do this on an Inertia style costdown dyno, it will affect the results. Applying the breaks at the end of the dyno run on a dyno dynamics resets the ABS system that is switched off during the dyno run. It is actually very good practice to do so as otherwise the customer drives away with no ABS!

Any way I had a bad experience with this place so I have bad opinion, where I have used DPM and haven't a bad thing to say about Damien or his work.

You had a bad experience? you have yet to explain what this bad experience is as most of the complaints you have written above have actually been good things that they have done or you jumping to conclusions. You can however use DPM, they have no dyno, no remapping knowledge, are not EFI qualified technicians and only write generic remaps!

I trust Vsport with all of the remapping on my 3 road cars and both my Noble M12, TVR Cerbera and our Radical R3 that we use for competitive race use, They have remapped and service them all. I myself am very knowledgeable about engine building and ecu preperation and I have used dynos for more than 20 years, I highly reccomend Dave and the team at Vsport for all of your dyno and remapping requirements.

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I'm confused?

I'm confused?

Me to, that's quite a comprehensive reply for a first post, almost sounds like RobinZetec is VSport??

I only signed up as I can accross this post when I put Vsport into google. I do not work for Vsport, I only came to read the post and to leave a good report about the work they have done for me in the past, only to find I had to register.

A comprehensive reply, yes. But only because another poster has posted a reply that is factually incorrect in every way so I thought I would reply to his comments with some facts.

I am sorry if my reply seemed a little brash.

No offence mate, but if I owned a Noble and a Cerberus as well as a Radical, I'd have gone for a better user ID RobinZetec hardly screams out "Noble driving, TVR repairing" petrol head.

Welcome to the Forum by the way

RobinZetec hardly screams out "Noble driving, TVR repairing" petrol head.

:rofl:

hmmmm :think:

My username is one I have used for years on forums, Mainly from my background building competition Zetec engines as a job for a motorsport company.

Thankyou for the welcome to the site, even though I seem to have caused a bit of a stir.

While I am on, can I ask what the difference is engine wise between the PD100 engine and the PD130 engine apart from the ecu map? anyone know?

My username is one I have used for years on forums, Mainly from my background building competition Zetec engines as a job for a motorsport company.

Thankyou for the welcome to the site, even though I seem to have caused a bit of a stir.

While I am on, can I ask what the difference is engine wise between the PD100 engine and the PD130 engine apart from the ecu map? anyone know?

I'm pretty certain it's a different turbo and pd injectors, but Devonutopia is the man to be asking

thanks, just found the member list function, will send him a message

Welcome Robinzetec

Thanks for your comments and views on VSPORT.

I did see and look around the noble and westfield outside.

I used VSPORT a few days ago to change my exhaust backbox and must admit the workmanship ie the welding was excellent:thumbup: a lot better than blueflame!

Still don't know whether to go through VSPORT or MB Motorsport for the remap.

I have used MB Motorsport for servicing and are very knowledgeable and reasonably priced.

They use jabbasport remaps but do not have a rolling road so the ecu settings are logged from your car and then sent to jabba and remapped to suit your car ie exhaust,fmic,induction kit etc.

Glad to be of help Michael, I have a vast knowledge of remapping and using rolling roads. Personally I would not entertain a remap that has not been written live to the cars ecu, especially if it is a petrol turbo. When a car is remapped the boost, fuelling and ignition timing is all adjusted. No 2 engines are identical. When I used to build race engines we would make 2-5 identical spec engines at a time. we would map one using an engine dyno, then finish the mapping on a chassis dyno (or rolling road) we would then use that map as a 'base map' for the other engines that we produced to the same spec, although we would often reduce various factors, especially ignition timing. We would then custom map each engine, no 2 maps were ever the same.

Often Generic remaps are just that, a modified map file that will be a '1 size fits all' affair. Often these files are nothing more than a good guess, by their nature thay will no be as accurate as a live custom remap.

With a live custom map the fuelling, ignition timing and boost settings will all be set up to their optimum levels and all of the settings monitored using specialist equipment during the process. This will give a far more accurate remap than any generic map that gets emailed back and forth between companies.

Why are generic remaps so popular? well its simple, to carry out full live custom mapping you need about £50,000 worth of equipment to do it properly. And then you need to pay someone that has the experience and knowledge to do it. A typical EFI technician that can map any ECU and know what he/she is doing will make a wage of around £30,000+ a year. Now yes, it gives the company massive credibility and lots of business from people in the know but as you can see its not cheap. Also the live custom remap will take around 3-6 hours and cost from £300-600.

In comparison, to do generic maps you need a £300 laptop and know how to drag and drop files using a windows based interface, something most 6 year olds can do these days! A laptop costs around £300, then you go to a franchise such as Jabba and pay them a monthly fee and £100 or so per file. They copy and paste this new file to the ecu and job done, takes around 20 mins in most cases. No testing to check that the fuelling under various loads and rpm's is correct, no check that ignition is too advanced so that it doesnt 'knock' under high loads at low throttle (going up a hill in 5th for example) etc... etc...

Its your decision, I hope I have given you a slight insight into the world of ECU remapping. If a generic remap is the one for you, dont pay more than £175, a lad in whitley bay has some half decent generic files that he writes for you for £150 all in. After all there is no skill involved, you are just paying for a file at the end of the day, not any real time, labour or specialist knowledge.

Very comprehensive explanation of Generic and Custom and I have to say very useful to me. Thanks.

do v tune have a web page?

No offence mate, but if I owned a Noble and a Cerberus as well as a Radical, I'd have gone for a better user ID RobinZetec hardly screams out "Noble driving, TVR repairing" petrol head.

:rofl:

on this note.

what do ppl think of the APR st2?

I like the look of the Vsport map but I also know how good the APR is.

as for price, i can drive up to jordi land (arround there lol) have the map and drive back cheeper than it is for the st2 at awsome?

what do ppl think?

I like the sound of the custom map as they can tailor it to me were as the APR is a generic int it?

cheers guys

found the web page

looks quite prof.

Prior to reading this thread i have been saving the pennies for a custom remap and turbo back stainless from VSport they have quoted me £650 all in, my mate had a remap done by them on the same model VRS as myself little over a month ago and the difference between my standard VRS and his remapped VRS is frightening. I cant wait.

what mods does he have on his?

and do you know what sort of power he is gettin?

If you have any questions about Vsports maps, best bet is to ring them for a chat on 0191 5365900. Unlike some companies they dont try and shroud their remapping techniques in mystery, Dave there will be happy to discuss it all with you and will give you as much info and time as you need.

I was there the other day and they were mapping a golf 1.8t 150bhp. not sure on the exaact figures but when I left they were making 189bhp and 235ft/lb. Dont know how the 180bhp Vrs compares but there is a power graph on the wall in the shop from an Octavia VRS that has been remapped.

I got an email from them yest and he mentioned the golf. said that it had had a few probs with previouse mapping by others and it took him 6hr to sort. normaly it takes 4ish hr to do the custom remaps. he recommends that it be the std map tho.

i gonna have trouble wi that as I have had a few maps on mine and not been too succesfull so gonna give dave all the info i can and he said hell try get somethin sorted for me. it is a long drive to hime but i reacon it will be worth it.

he sounds like a good fella and he was v quick to answer my email.