There are a number of threads about Eibach springs for the Fabia vRS. Having chatted recently to a director of Eibach UK, I thought you might find the following info useful if you're considering a suspension upgrade.

The spec of the two springs people seem to be using on the Fabia vRS is as follows:

Part No. E-10-79-001-05-22 is intended for the vRS model and is desgned to lower the ride height by 25mm (bear in mind the vRS is already lower than the standard hatch and the PDI engine installation doesn't allow a lot of underside clearance) and increase stiffness by 25%.

Part No. E-7911.140 is intended for the Fabia TDI model and is desgned to drop the ride height by 30mm but is a much softer spring - 23Nm per mm (approx 130lb).

Contrary to popular belief, both sets of springs are linear, not progressive. The rear springs in both sets are smiliar (800kg axle load) as the TDI and vRS are similar weights at the rear. However, the front springs for the vRS set are designed for a front axle load of 960kg whereas the TDI springs are for a nose weight of only 900kg. Which is why a Fabia vRS on TDI springs will adpot a slightly 'nose-down' attitiude.

Eibach UK do not recommend the TDI springs for the vRS but do recognise that by fitting adjustable dampers it may be possible to achieve an acceptable compromise of the springs' effects.

What did I do? I've fitted vRS Eibachs on standard dampers. The car sits dead level (the 35mm overall drop looks great, even with standard 16" alloys IMHO). Cornering is dead flat with virtually no roll and no pitch under braking or acceleration. The ride is very firm, which you get used to and is getting better with the miles. I've also fitted an upper front strut brace which has tightenend up the whole front end and taken out much of the 'crashiness' over bumps from the front struts.

In terms of improvement per

Very interesting........

I have the TDI springs on Koni adjustables and the handling and ride are both superb.

However the front is bouncier than I would like, and the rear is a tad higher than the front.

I'm going to live with it for the time being but if things dont improve as it all settles I might have to go for the vRS springs.

But I dont want a harsh ride - what to do what to do :confused: :confused:

Wonder what the comparative specs of the Eibach coilovers are? any ideas?

My vRS springs arrive tomorrow.

Should be fitting them saturday all being well.

A personal thanks from myself to rsbspt for the info.

Hi

I need help in finding the best Strut brace for a fabia VRS.

Simon

Seat Sport do a Momo Strut brace for the Mk iv Ibiza, that fits straight onto the Fabia. It costs about

And Colin has done a review in the 'Review' section.

Excellent info Phil, I'm looking into it now!

Part No. E-10-79-001-05-22 is intended for the vRS model and is desgned to lower the ride height by 25mm (bear in mind the vRS is already lower than the standard hatch and the PDI engine installation doesn't allow a lot of underside clearance) and increase stiffness by 25%.

What did I do? I've fitted vRS Eibachs on standard dampers. The car sits dead level (the 35mm overall drop looks great, even with standard 16" alloys IMHO). Cornering is dead flat with virtually no roll and no pitch under braking or acceleration. The ride is very firm, which you get used to and is getting better with the miles. I've also fitted an upper front strut brace which has tightenend up the whole front end and taken out much of the 'crashiness' over bumps from the front struts.

In terms of improvement per

A dealer will be able to do the work for you, cant see any reason why they should refuse. The car will need four wheel alignment afterwards mind you and the Xenons will need to be reset.

Ive done a review of the suspension, in the menu on the left. <----

Ross when you say a dealer, do you mean a Skoda dealer will fit these? This is very interesting to me too since I want an improvement but cant afford to spend megabucks.

A Skoda dealer should fit whatever you ask them to within reason, A suspension change is easy enough to do and its all money to them.

Or im sure a specialist place is just fine i.e Motech, R-TEC whatever.

So are these "vRS" specific springs mentioned here designed for use with the standard dampers then? I am really getting quite close to pulling the trigger on this.

Jifster

Yes, by standard I mean the dampers the car arrived with from the factory. And yes, my Eibachs were fitted by my Skoda dealer.

Yes, if I'm honest the ride with Eibachs is hard and after a long Mway journey can be a bit wearing (better when car's fully loaded). But more fun to drive on the bendy bits? You bet! If you're after a super-smooth ride you really should have bought a car with a longer wheelbase - the Fabia's only a supermini after all and you can't defeat the laws of physics. But as you went for a vRS I suspect smooth ride wasn't No 1 priority. Which brings us back to the old compromise of ride -v- handling.

See this tester's report on what the Fabia maybe should have been fitted with:

http://www.carkeys.co.uk/launches/skoda/863.asp

IMO the Fabia as standard rides pretty well and if that's vital for you, don't change springs. But if you want to get rid of cornering roll, pitch and dive under acceleration and braking and give the car a lower look rather than a body appearing to hover 3 inches above the tyres, then Eibachs do this. I'm thinking of 205/50 x 16 tyres when they're due for change which might help the ride...

Or replace the dampers as well, so they are matched to the springs. Ride is only slightly harder than standard so still good on long journeys, but more controlled and less bouncy on the fun stuff!

Chris

Does anyone know if the eibach dampers for the mk4 ibiza tdi are the same as the eibach ones for the fabia?

Does anyone know if the eibach dampers for the mk4 ibiza tdi are the same as the eibach ones for the fabia?

My mate who fitted them said they looked like the ones for the Seat, but didn't have a parts list to be sure...........

Chris

My mate who fitted them said they looked like the ones for the Seat' date=' but didn't have a parts list to be sure...........

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Ive looked on MSW and they have slightly different part numbers... :confused:

If their different part number then I would of thought they're different.

Seat 60-81-005-01-22

Skoda 60-79-001-01-22

Like to think that would be true for the vRS as it is for your PD 100 Chris. But the Eibachs for the vRS are quite a bit stiffer, so fitting Eibach dampers may well make matters worse in the ride dept. I'd be interested to hear from anyone who's got the Eibach spring/damper combo on a Furby vRS. Most seem to go for adjustable Konis...

Thinking in changing my TDI springs to vRS ones sometime soon.

Does anyone with vRS springs have problems with speedbumps?

Thinking in changing my TDI springs to vRS ones sometime soon.

Does anyone with vRS springs have problems with speedbumps?

Clearance? - no. Creaks and groans? - yes. Intertestingly VW have introduced a recall for the current Polo (same floorpan as Fabia) to cure suspension noises. Invloves repalcement of bushes and application of a special lubricant. I've got a list of the part numbers and I hope to get a copy of the technincal bulletin which I will post here...

Clearance? - no. Creaks and groans? - yes. Intertestingly VW have introduced a recall for the current Polo (same floorpan as Fabia) to cure suspension noises. Invloves repalcement of bushes and application of a special lubricant. I've got a list of the part numbers and I hope to get a copy of the technincal bulletin which I will post here...

Yes sorry meant clearance. I would say with the TDI springs 7/10 sump cover will bottom out :eek:

See this tester's report on what the Fabia maybe should have been fitted with:

http://www.carkeys.co.uk/launches/skoda/863.asp

I dont know if the 2004 model Fabia RS differs in some way to that one on there, but I'd say the handling report on there is grossly unfair and unaccurate to how my car handles. Yes, it is softly sprung, but it does ride well, has plenty of grip, can go around corners pretty quick and is (most importantly) good fun to chuck around. To say its the worst Fabia in the range based on what he perceives to be handling faults is ridiculous IMO.

would these eibach springs fit a 'standard' 1.4 mpi fabia? or only the vrs.