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I'm pretty fed up. Brakes were binding 1.9TDiPD 100 Estate. Had work done by Skoda specialist, new rear discs and pads plus full brake check £114. Bad news is it's still happenning. It's intermittent, OK for a while then you can tell car is labouring. Slow down dip clutch to let it coast and it's as though handbrake is on. Comes to an abrupt stop without touching brakes. Then it frees up and is OK for a while. Any ideas anyone? Got it booked back in on Monday but they said they were not confident of solving it as it's intermittent and they need to see it binbing.:confused:

new caliper time, i had this on my hyundai coupe

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new caliper time, i had this on my hyundai coupe

Thanks for reply bobjim, I suspected this in the first place but they just did discs (which were bad, 1 warped) and pads. I still feel it's calipers.

I suppose if it were electronic i.e. related to ABS EBS traction control etc., it would light up on dash?? I'm no mechanic!

yeah more mecahnical rather than electrical,

my first port of call would be to check the sliders and piston

My first thought is siezing sliders. Are the wheels getting hot when this happens?

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My first thought is siezing sliders. Are the wheels getting hot when this happens?

Ken sorry to be late replying. Yes wheels are getting hot. I suspect rear offside and that gets hottest too.

Just wondered what a new caliper would cost and can one side only be replaced or should it be done in pairs?:(

Ken sorry to be late replying. Yes wheels are getting hot. I suspect rear offside and that gets hottest too.

Just wondered what a new caliper would cost and can one side only be replaced or should it be done in pairs?:(

No worries mate.

If it's the sliders siezing a decent local garage should be able to sort it out for an hour or 2 work time. What happens is that the calipers are supposed to self-centralise over the discs on a pair of rods, but sometimes get stuck. Some biffs with a wieldy hammer to get them moving, then a cleanup of the pins and some Copaslip is what's needed, not new calipers (but new pads possibly because they've probably worn unevenly so that one is worn out but the other is fine).

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No worries mate.

If it's the sliders siezing a decent local garage should be able to sort it out for an hour or 2 work time. What happens is that the calipers are supposed to self-centralise over the discs on a pair of rods, but sometimes get stuck. Some biffs with a wieldy hammer to get them moving, then a cleanup of the pins and some Copaslip is what's needed, not new calipers (but new pads possibly because they've probably worn unevenly so that one is worn out but the other is fine).

Cheers Ken, Couldnt have replied at a better time as I've just booked it in for 2pm today.They put new discs and pads last week and it still did it. They greased the handbrake Sat a.m. and yesterday Sunday the brakes were binding again. They are going to strip the calipers again today so will pass on your info and hope this solves it. Will let you know. Thanks for your time mate.

I had this happen on my Octy VRS and they do a service kit for the calipers.

They replaced the seals and greased everything up. It happen on the driver's side rear of my car. After the strip down and service I didn't have any more problems.

I can't remember how much it was but £60 sounds about right.

Cheaper than new calipers anyway.

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I had this happen on my Octy VRS and they do a service kit for the calipers.

They replaced the seals and greased everything up. It happen on the driver's side rear of my car. After the strip down and service I didn't have any more problems.

I can't remember how much it was but £60 sounds about r

Cheaper than new calpiers anyway.

Thanks bigal, I'll post after it's done and tested!! Cheers.:thumbup:

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Okay, I've been to the garage and it's all bad news. They've rechecked the calipers and can find nothing wrong. Took it for a short spin and said wheels were much hotter than they should be also brakes were much too keen i.e. little if any pedal travel before it stands on it's nose!! I always thought that was a sign of good brakes but they suspect the master cylinder needs replacing and have quoted £200.

Anyway I bought car from Barkers Skoda Grimsby and have a warranty with them (doesnt cover brake pads or calipers etc) so rang them to ask about M.Cyl. only to be told hey are not Skoda any more and that all Skoda warranty has to go through Hortons of Lincoln. Will ring them tomorrow. What a bag of worms!!

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Me and the wife are well and truly gutted. Its our first Skoda and we have this.

After having rear discs and pads last week which didn't cure my binding brake problem,I had Harnies Skoda specialists fit a new brake master cylinder. The total cost so far is around £300 and the brakes are even worse. It appears I can drive about 10 miles then the car struggles for power. Not because of engine but because brakes bind on. I was on the A16 near to Grimsby when I had to stop at Trafic lights. As I tried to set off the brakes were binding. Eventually a loud bang from the front brakes as though they had stuck and suddenly released, then horrible burning smell and blue smoke from front nearside wheel. A quick pump on the brake pedal and it all freed up again. On my way back from Grimsby a similar story of binding brakes. It's going in again tomorrow but boy how we are loosing confidence in this car. Just can't work it out..HELP!!!

If it's not the caliper sliders or the master cylinder, this I'm left suspecting the ABS, as being all that's left that could hold the brakes on.

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If it's not the caliper sliders or the master cylinder, this I'm left suspecting the ABS, as being all that's left that could hold the brakes on.

Thanks for reply Ken. I know its a boring subject but I hope it helps if we raise any probs we may have.

I took it back to the garage this am. The mechanic took it out for a spin and got it to do exactly what it did to me .

As your driving the pedal gets slowly higher and the brakes bind. A quick pump on the pedal and they release again.

When he got back they were still binding so put it on ramp and 3 wheels were solid and he could just turn the 4th with effort. I've left it with them for a couple of days. They mentioned ABS and also the servo which they will check. So will post again once its back! ...gutted..:eek:

I'm not bored! Strange faults that we don't "just know" the answers too are always the most interesting for anyone except the person who's wallet is concerned.

I suspect either the return valves sticking or an electronics glitch. I wonder, how about trying a new brake pedal switch?

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I'm not bored! Strange faults that we don't "just know" the answers too are always the most interesting for anyone except the person who's wallet is concerned.

I suspect either the return valves sticking or an electronics glitch. I wonder, how about trying a new brake pedal switch?

I'll see what they say and suggest your comments to them. Sorry I didn't mean to imply you were bored but was referring more to the lack of response generally as it is a boring subject. I just hope that by posting this it could help someone with a similar problem. I am very grateful for your interest Ken and will post any progress. Cheers.:thumbup:

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My brothers car is doing exactly this. It's like reading his diary! He has now had two new sets of front discs and pads and also a new master cylinder fitted this weekend. He has also had new front brake hoses and it still is doing it! Its exactly the same as you have described!

Car has been in the family from new and it has just turned 50,000 miles with no brake problems at all.

Skoda main dealer has checked the ABS system and gives it the all clear.

What was the solution? Does anyone know what could be causing this?

Any help would really be appreciated!

Thanks

Matt

My rear drivers side does it and its ****ing me off

new caliper time, i had this on my hyundai coupe

Same with me....

My rear drivers side does it and its ****ing me off

Is this not a completely different problem - ie the handbrake internal return "spring" is not doing its job? I've had this on a Polo 9N but just live with it and back off the lever twice a year - after 53,000 miles it has only caused about 0.2mm extra wear on the O/S rear pads (wrt the N/S rear pads).

Help

My brothers car is doing exactly this. It's like reading his diary! He has now had two new sets of front discs and pads and also a new master cylinder fitted this weekend. He has also had new front brake hoses and it still is doing it! Its exactly the same as you have described!

Car has been in the family from new and it has just turned 50,000 miles with no brake problems at all.

Skoda main dealer has checked the ABS system and gives it the all clear.

What was the solution? Does anyone know what could be causing this?

Any help would really be appreciated!

Thanks

Matt

Have you tried using "search" - I'm sure that this has been covered already - but I'm not 100% as I have not got this problem yet.

Also, if this has been a recuring/frequent problem the Skoda main dealers will know something about the root cause.

Also, again any final facts from horkin yet?

Thanks All

I was hoping Horkin would post his conclusion as this sounds spot on what is happening to my brothers car. The Main Dealer has never come across it before and Skoda Technical advised them that it sounded like the master cylinder which, has now been replaced with no joy.

I have tried a search and read about no end of braking problems but this is the first one I've found that appears to match. Can anyone else recall seeing a post on this before?

Cheers

Matt

Well

It seems it is the brake Servo that has a problem so a new one has been ordered. Independent garage got it to lock up then found that the brake pedal had sunk by just a few millimetres of it's own accord. Apparently this is just enough to bring the brakes on and the first to be affected are the drivers side front and near side rear as this is the first circuit to take up the pressure. I imagine heat soon build up if they're dragging and could possible cause a bit of sudden lock when the speed drops off?

I think what happened was this fault has been coming on gradually and with new front discs and pads being fitted it made it more noticable. Worth bearing in mind if anyone else gets this as Skoda dealers seem to chuck a new master cyclinder on first which is anywhere upto £500.00 fitted. They suggested the next part to be replaced was the ABS modulator! Well done local independent!

Oh and would you credit it, after all this found Horkin's reply!

http://briskoda.net/fabia-i/shes-back/121166/

That's another one for the data bank, for the future.

Also a timely reminder to everyone that raises a new thread, to stick with that thread until the end so that others can see what happened in the end - I know you can search by "member" - but I reckon sticking with the thread and posting what the final fix was helps us all, and that is what these forums are all about.

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