On my 1.4 TDI I simply hate running around with my FRONT Fog lamps switched on when I only require the REAR FOG'(s) on, I therefore modified the wiring behind the Fog light switch to reverse the sequence.

Proceed as follows.

Disconnect the battery.

To remove the Light Switch - [Haynes page 12.4]

With the switch set @ 0 Push the switch centre inwards and Turn it slightly to the right - Hold in this position and Pull the whole rectangular switch from the dash panel (it may need extra leverage from the sides with a thin flat blade).

Carefully unplug the Large wiring Plug and turn it upside down to view the wiring connector numbers on the Plug body.

[Haynes page 12.24] locate wiring Pins 8(Green) & 9(White/Yellow), these need swapping over, either remove the Pins (if you have the proper tool) from the Plug or cut both wires about 20mm away from the Plug, slip on two pieces of heat shrink sleeving and solder the wires in the swapped over position.

Re-assemble and test.

The Rear Fog Lights are now more user friendly without annoying oncoming traffic.

I also took advice from a previous posting and connected both Rear Fogs together with a link wire.

DB.

Edited 10 August, 200817 yr by mogwye

Or sell the Fabia and buy a Felicia which has seperate switches for the fog lights.

And my front fogs don't dazzle ocoming motorists as they arent that bright.

No thanks, I will stick with my £35.00 per year road tax.

DB.

It is fronts first for sure. I am always of the opinion that if it is foggy enough for rears to be needed, fronts are as well. There's nothing worse than driving along in semi-poor conditions and someone in front looks like they're permanently braking when just having lights on is plenty sufficient. :grumpy:

Let me re-phrase.

I use REAR Fogs when is it fairly heavy rain on motorways, FRONT Fogs are useless in these conditions but REAR Fogs are essentially a major safety factor so the car behind can see you through the spray.

DB.

It is fronts first for sure. I am always of the opinion that if it is foggy enough for rears to be needed, fronts are as well.

I disagree.

In poor visibility the rear light can make a big difference in how easy it is to spot other cars but the front fogs do very little to help you see or be seen.

I'd prefer to be able to control them independently but I can see how having rears on first might be handy

Let me re-phrase.

I use REAR Fogs when is it fairly heavy rain on motorways, FRONT Fogs are useless in these conditions but REAR Fogs are essentially a major safety factor so the car behind can see you through the spray.

DB.

OOOH lovely, I just love being dazzled by the bright sparks with their rear fog lights on when it's only raining, it really helps me see what is in front - NOT!

I think you may also discover misuse of rear fogs is frowned upon by the boys in blue.

The fronts come on first for a reason, that's why they are sequenced that way!

There's nothing worse than driving along in semi-poor conditions and someone in front looks like they're permanently braking when just having lights on is plenty sufficient. :grumpy:

What he said.

I disagree.

In poor visibility the rear light can make a big difference in how easy it is to spot other cars but the front fogs do very little to help you see or be seen.

I'd prefer to be able to control them independently but I can see how having rears on first might be handy

Independent control is the way: there are very few times in this country where front fogs are actually useful.

OOOH lovely, I just love being dazzled by the bright sparks with their rear fog lights on when it's only raining, it really helps me see what is in front - NOT!

Nothing worse that a crowded, rainy motorway where all you can see is a sea of red lights and the brake lights don't show.

OOOH lovely, I just love being dazzled by the bright sparks with their rear fog lights on when it's only raining, it really helps me see what is in front - NOT!

I think you may also discover misuse of rear fogs is frowned upon by the boys in blue.

And if there is heavy rain with lots of spray then this is "seriously reduced visibility" and exactly when fogs are supposed to be used.

And if there is heavy rain with lots of spray then this is "seriously reduced visibility" and exactly when fogs are supposed to be used.

The problem is that lots of people use them at the first sign of spray: The answer is of course in the Highway Code.

I tend to find rear lights are adequate in all but the very very worst of weather conditions. and in those conditions cars in front might want to know where you are clearer too, hence front fogs.

Personally I've yet to be in a real situation where fogs have been needed, front or rear.

@ Devonutopia - Same

I've only used the Rear warning fog light once on my Skoda

Going up (the A62 is it between Hudds and Oldham) fairly remote road and the fog got really thick

surely the time to use them is in there name. They are called fog lights because you use them in the fog. Otherwise they would be called fog and rain lights!!!!! All they do in rain is dazzle the people behind you. I have always had a figure of less than 100m visibility before putting them on in my head ( not sure if got this from highway code or not). I also have a pet hate of people with front fogs on (especially when they only have their side lights on!!!). Maybe the police should stop and fine more people for doing this (be a great way to increase revenue without having to dish points out as well since around here almost every other car would be paying out!!!)

Excuse me, but this thread was aimed at folk who wished to alter the sequence of which FOG Lights they preferred to switch on first, which I have provided a guided set of info as to altering the wiring, of which I have received a number of Silent Thank You's.

May I suggest to all those concerned, whom have poked their noses in as to whether they wish to either Dazzle the car in front or Dazzle the car at their back of them, to start another thread and kindly do something constructive instead of criticising someone who has provided useful info for people who wish to convert.

DB.

Edited 10 August, 200817 yr by mogwye

I'm sure mine switches the rear fogs on when pulled out half way, and the fronts only when pulled out completely anyway?

I'm sure mine switches the rear fogs on when pulled out half way, and the fronts only when pulled out completely anyway?

I have a strange feeling that my wife's 2003 MY Polo 9N is the same - and it does seem logical (without opening myself up to flaming!). I think that the "rules of the road" changed at some point - ie the UK ones, as I think that in the case of my 2000 MY Passat B5, when I add front fogs I might end up being illegal (MOT time) as I have bought a switch that functions as above. On the other hand, at MOT time I could just fit the old switch as having optional lights that do not function does not seem to be the problem it once was. My wife's previous car - a 1994 Fiesta, had both front and rear foglights and they were individually switched - but rules have changed a bit since then!

Remember for those folk that are lucky enough not to encounter fog, the front fog lights are used by the driver to light up the road under the fog - and not to aid the driver in front to see you - using dipped beam in these conditions just blinds you as the light gets reflected back off the fog and avoiding this by just using side lights is both stupid and illegel (the driver in front can't see you at all). Which leads into the next question, why did some manufacturers only allow you to enable the front fogs when the dipped beams are on? (I think that my wife's 2003MY Polo 9N might work like that - but I'll need to check up on that!)

Edited 11 August, 200817 yr by rum4mo

The Fords I have driven the front fogs come on first and the rear fogs at the second pull

It will only pull the full way if the dipped beams are on. (on a Ford Fiesta/Focus) that was back in 2002

Although now I'm liking the arrangement of my Skodas independant buttons however the rear warning fog lights will only come on if the dipped beams are on.

So if you swap it, the rear fogs will come on if the sidelights are on right?

Will this affect the dash lights too as in it will say the front fogs are lit and not the back? :confused:

So if you swap it, the rear fogs will come on if the sidelights are on right?

Will this affect the dash lights too as in it will say the front fogs are lit and not the back?

With Mr Mogwye's modification - the dash warning lights still function correctly and the switch operates exactly as before - you cannot select either REAR or FRONT Fogs unless the the side, dip or main beam is switched on, as before.

DB.

Edited 11 August, 200817 yr by mogwye

I would have thought the car would fail it's MOT if the wiring was reversed? Unless of course you re-wire it prior to the MOT!

I mainly use my Front Fog Lights whilst travelling through the Peak District at night when the cloud cover is low and when it is rather misty.

Best Regards,

PAO72

And if there is heavy rain with lots of spray then this is "seriously reduced visibility" and exactly when fogs are supposed to be used.

check the highway code "fogs should not be used in rain to avoid dazzling drivers behind".

As already said, if rears are needed, fronts go on too. Motorway driving is such a pain when half the tits have rear fogs on, even though the rear lights are fine as they are

No an MOT fail would be if the lights didnt work at all.

check the highway code "fogs should not be used in rain to avoid dazzling drivers behind".

As already said, if rears are needed, fronts go on too. Motorway driving is such a pain when half the tits have rear fogs on, even though the rear lights are fine as they are

226

You MUST use headlights when visibility is seriously reduced' date=' generally when you cannot see for more than 100 metres (328 feet). You may also use front or rear fog lights but you MUST switch them off when visibility improves (see Rule 236).[/quote']

236

You MUST NOT use front or rear fog lights unless visibility is seriously reduced (see Rule 226) as they dazzle other road users and can obscure your brake lights. You MUST switch them off when visibility improves.

So I think heavy spray on the motorway counts as reduced visibility.

Independent control is the way: there are very few times in this country where front fogs are actually useful.

There are equally few times when rears are legal as there are when fronts are.