Superchips Bluefin on the way!

[jcdub]

Getting my bluefin on Thursday. for my 170 Tdi Octavia common rail. Can't wait ot feel the difference :-)

Dose anyone else on here have there 170 common rail remaped yet?

JC

[SCVRS]

Getting my bluefin on Thursday. for my 170 Tdi Octavia common rail. Can't wait ot feel the difference :-)

Dose anyone else on here have there 170 common rail remaped yet?

JC

Im positive that you will enjoy this!

Edited 8 April, 2009 by SCVRS

[andymad]

Getting my bluefin on Thursday. for my 170 Tdi Octavia common rail. Can't wait ot feel the difference :-)

Dose anyone else on here have there 170 common rail remaped yet?

JC

how is the bluefin going on the common rail ? im looking at having my cr re mapped but havnt spoke to anyone whos had one done yet.

[jcdub]

how is the bluefin going on the common rail ? im looking at having my cr re mapped but haven't spoke to anyone who's had one done yet.

Hi

I picked up the Bluefin last week and brought it home to install it. but it said error, so i called Mc Namaras where I purchased it and they called superchips in the UK, and I was asked to call superchips in the Uk to talk to one of the service engineers which I did. I explained the proplem and told them that this was a 170tdi common rail engine the same as the one in the latest audi TT and not the PD engine that was previously used. He came back and told me that they did not have a map yet for the new engine, but they did just log 2 cars that they are working on that morning and the engineers where very happy with the results they got.

So I was told that that new remap should be ready within 2-4 weeks. The dealer I bought it from I know fairly well and he said he might be able to sort me out with their trial software to use until the finished remap is available.

I,ll let you know when I have the trial or finished remap on the car

JC

[andymad]

hi jcdub whats happening with your bluefin for the octy vrs cr ? must be a month now have you had any contact with superchips?

[jcdub]

The agent got it wrong and ordered what they thought was the blufin for the common rail, but its not ready yet. I spoke to superchips yesterday and they are close to releasing a remap for the 170 CR soon. As soon as its ready I was told I'll be the first to have it :-)

[InexEng]

Gosh JC you were lucky

That the BlueFin only came back with error and not lock out your ECU

or the BlueFin didn't go toes up either

I spoke to SuperChips myself direct back in August at the time they didn't even realise that VAG now has a CR engine

Good luck with it

Keep us informed:thumbup:

[jcdub]

I'll keep you posted. I was told the blufin would not have caused a lockout because of the was is access's the ECU

[InexEng]

Still nothing JC ?????

I'd ask for my money back

Think of the interest on £500 or 600euro you could of had

[JamesyG]

Quite interested to hear about this too! Want to get one myself when there released!

[dstev2000]

Can anyone shed any light on whether the bluefin has the capability to reset the ECU flash counter on TDI engines?

Sorry if the question is OT but it might benefit a few people.

[InexEng]

IIRC the bluefin does not and can't reset the flash counter

[jcdub]

IIRC the bluefin does not and can't reset the flash counter

Hi guys

I am still waiting for the new software to be released, but I was told it would be before Christmas...

When I enquired if the bluefin could damage the ecu I was told it's not possible due to the face it's programming through the serial port.

I think Superchips will be the first to have a remap ready as they already have 2 test cars running with the trial software in the letast 170 CD Tdi engine.

As soon as it's ready I was promised I'd be the first to receive it:D

JC

[Alien8d]

I spoke to Superchips last week, and was told they didn't have a release date on the 170CR - Who did you speak to when you called them ?

Initially they said they didn't even know a CR engine was available for the Skoda, which seems odd given it's a VAG motor, and they are VAG tuning specialists.

btw, is there any advantage from using Bluefin over simply getting a Superchips approved installer to remap the ECU ?

[jcdub]

I spoke to Superchips last week, and was told they didn't have a release date on the 170CR - Who did you speak to when you called them ?

Initially they said they didn't even know a CR engine was available for the Skoda, which seems odd given it's a VAG motor, and they are VAG tuning specialists.

btw, is there any advantage from using Bluefin over simply getting a Superchips approved installer to remap the ECU ?

I spoke to the superchip distributer for Ireland yesterday who works closely with the HQ in the uk. His exact words where that they have 2 cars running with the EDC17 ecu's (Common Rail) and they are more or less finished trialing them and they are in the process of scripting the information so it can be uploaded on to the ECU with minimum of fuss.

Another interesting thing I was told was that VW are invloved with the work thay are doing as Superchips tune the cars in the VW Racing Cup in the UK. VW are giving information wit regard to the coding of the ecu's fitted to the new common rail engine.

Anyway its only a matter of weeks till it is released.

P.S They do know that the new CR engine is in the Skoda as my dealer who I have known for a long time has be on to them regularly about software for my car. Either way it dosen't make a difference. The remap will suit all CR170 tdi regardless of what badge is on the bonnet.

The reason I am going for the bluefin is because it's switchable and my car is under warrenty and I dont need hassel from the dealer further down the line. The other reason is. I can sell it seperatly down the road if i change the car.

J

[JamesyG]

Any news on this yet mate?

[jcdub]

I was in with the superchip dealed today and it still being scripted. they are trying to get it out asap as nobody else can remap the EDC17, so they will have the market to themselves for a while. Sure the BMW guys with the latest 320d's and 330, 335d's are having to wait too. So they will have it out asap..

JC

[cheezemonkhai]

I'd ask for a refund and arrange to get the map when it is out.

They might be holding onto your money as the dealer is short of the cash. I am fairly certain one of the dealers on here (p-torque maybe) claim they can remap CR 170 TDI's already.

[p-torque.co.uk]

I was in with the superchip dealed today and it still being scripted. they are trying to get it out asap as nobody else can remap the EDC17, so they will have the market to themselves for a while. Sure the BMW guys with the latest 320d's and 330, 335d's are having to wait too. So they will have it out asap..

JC

Nope...we were the first UK tuner to offer remaps via OBD for the new BMW EDC17's

VAG EDC17 soon to come....

[jcdub]

Nope...we were the first UK tuner to offer remaps via OBD for the new BMW EDC17's

VAG EDC17 soon to come....

What type of money would it be to remap the 17- tdi common rail and do you have any agants in Ireland? Also when do you thing it will be available?

Thanks

JC

[jcdub]

I'd ask for a refund and arrange to get the map when it is out.

They might be holding onto your money as the dealer is short of the cash. I am fairly certain one of the dealers on here (p-torque maybe) claim they can remap CR 170 TDI's already.

They gave me my money back straight away when they discovered that they could not do my car. So the first to come out with a remap for my car gets my money. Although he was giving me a decent discount as I know him:D

[p-torque.co.uk]

What type of money would it be to remap the 17- tdi common rail and do you have any agants in Ireland? Also when do you thing it will be available?

Thanks

JC

Hi

The remap will be £495.00 all in.

We are currently in discussion with a possible agent in Ireland although I doubt they will be offering mapping for these later models, as the tool is approx £15,000 to flash just EDC17 models

[jcdub]

Hi

The remap will be £495.00 all in.

We are currently in discussion with a possible agent in Ireland although I doubt they will be offering mapping for these later models, as the tool is approx £15,000 to flash just EDC17 models

Thanks for that.

I'm getting my done when the software is ready for less than that, less then €600

[p-torque.co.uk]

Thanks for that.

I'm getting my done when the software is ready for less than that, less then €600

Remaps are off the shelf products that do the same thing, they vary hugely

Cheaper is rarely better in the tuning world :P

[cheezemonkhai]

Indeed, but generic remaps really are very expensive for what they are.

I mean they probably cost a few thousand pounds to develop, say £50'000 which is generous IMHO. so at £500 a time once 100 are sold it's pure profit.

So, if you assume they have to to make some profit on the first ones sold that means 200 sales before they move onto pure profit with £250 profit on each one.

Now I don't believe £50k is an unreasonable amount for a remap as that basically buys a couple of engineers (software/hardware) with a good skill level and all the associated overheads for 6 months.

This then brings me to the question that no re-mapper will ever answer which is why are remaps for dervs £500 new and then still that for many many years. I mean even the ones for the old 1.9TDI's are still going for £250 a pop.

One might surmise that remaps are a massive profit making engine.

I'm sure if you go to some of the companies in Germany that develop maps, you could get a map for an old car (PD TDI 130 day) and once you have the tool be knocking them off for about £100 a time and still make profit.

I mean the £500 most places charge for a generic don't even include a dyno run, so that is some extra profit in there too.

My opinion is that I have heard of superchips and if I can get their map for less than A.N Other brand then why not.