from what i've seen gary i completely agree that you don't need ESP, you don't go anything like fast enough to do any damage if something went wrong

from what i've seen gary i completely agree that you don't need ESP, you don't go anything like fast enough to do any damage if something went wrong

exactly;)

exactly;)

tbh it seemed more down to the car than anything as you seemed to be trying

Thanks for the indepth answers guys

The ASR does seem to do something on my Fabia . . . Although its off now!

absolute and complete rubbish that, ESP works amazingly in the snow on my octavia, take a look at this too.

YouTube - Top Gear - Fifth Gear - Bosch ESP

From personal experience in my MkV Golf Gti - it was no good at all in snow. It all depends on the road conditions.

If you like the brakes firing all the time when you are going in a straight line then when you apply the brakes it doesn't slow down because the antilock system cuts in - it was great.

I am not slagging the system off because I did pay to have it fitted to my Octavia VRS mkII. The system saved me from the armco when I hit diesel on an island once in my Golf.

on an objective note i went round the ring with a certain crazy belgian member in his fabia vrs with esp equipped and allthough he does know the ring very well he was trying to crash/terrify me,and his comments when throwing his car into every corner his comment was "its ok i have esp" it was mighty impressive tho:D