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URGENT : The law and Road Tax

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My Sister has done a deal to purchase a Qashqai from Brian Leighton Garages in Howden. I am planning to collect the car next Monday and drive it back to Holyhead for the ferry to Dublin. The car is currently untaxed - and the garage are telling me that when they tax the car it can take two weeks for them to get the V5 cert back from the DVLA. However I cannot bring the car into Ireland without the V5 cert beacuse the law in Ireland and my sisters insurance company insist that the car is re-registered within 48 hours of importing into this country. I have said to the garage I will take the car without it being taxed, but they are saying they cannot release with car to me without it being taxed -unless I take it away on a trailer.

Can anyone confirm if this is the LAW in England ??

I feel sure if I was stopped by the police on the trip from Howden to Holyhead and explain that I just purchased the car and was taking it out of the country (I will have an insurance cover note from my Insurance company confirming the car is covered) that there would be no problem. Am I correct in assuming this ??

Any help or info that can be given on this will be gratefully received. Can I insist that the garage give me the car without it being taxed ?

Cheers

Bryan

Yup, you cannot drive it without valid tax. Trailer is the only way, which means the garage would/should be declaring as sorn, or making you sign a disclaimer.

And unless you're parking it off road, then you'll be breaking the law too.

Or you have trade plates!

Can you not register it in Ireland before you go to pick it up?

So long as it's road legal in Ireland then you have no need to worry about UK road tax.

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Can you not register it in Ireland before you go to pick it up?

So long as it's road legal in Ireland then you have no need to worry about UK road tax.

To register it in Ireland I need the V5 - and cant get that till I get the car taxed in the UK :confused:

To register it in Ireland I need the V5 - and cant get that till I get the car taxed in the UK :confused:

You don't need road tax in order to get the v5 in your name..

Not quite sure if dealers register the cars on their forecourt as SORN whilst waiting for a buyer or they can do something else... but either way it will be registered as off the road with the DVLA so it shouldn't be much of a stretch for them to get the v5 transferred to yourself at which point you can make the arrangements to make the car legal in Ireland then go and pick it up.

Would it be cheaper & easier to get the car on a trailer to Holyhead, you go as a foot passenger on the ferry then come back with the car. Once in Ireland with the V5 you can register the car.

I THINK what the garage are saying, is that to transfer the v5 into your name, they need to send off their portion of the old v5 off to DVLA, and DVLA will take about 2 weeks to return a new v5 to you.

They can't refuse to give you the car without tax; I suspect they are either confused over the export paperwork or just being plain awkward.

I'm not 100% on the laws regarding import/export between England/Ireland but when I exported my old Nissan Navara to Malta I gave the entire v5 to the new keeper in Malta and just kept the tear off slip relating to export, which I then sent off the DVLA - I'm pretty sure this is what the garage should do.

Do you have road tax in Ireland?

HTH

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Would it be cheaper & easier to get the car on a trailer to Holyhead, you go as a foot passenger on the ferry then come back with the car. Once in Ireland with the V5 you can register the car.

I am going to the UK (Manchester) this weekend anyway, so want to collect the car in a single trip. Also my sister has sold her car and cant be without one for the few weeks it would all take.

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Do you have road tax in Ireland?

HTH

I would think we pay a lot more on road tax here in Ireland than ye do in the UK, For example, a 3.6 Superb is €2,000 for the yr :eek:

Having checked, you do NOT need road tax if you are driving it from point of sale to the docks

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Having checked, you do NOT need road tax if you are driving it from point of sale to the docks

Hi Jonnycatbiscuit, can you point us in the direction of where you found this information please. It would be great to be able to show it to the dealer

The dealer should fill in section 11 of the V5 and post it to the DVLA and give you the V5. Phone the DVLA at Swansea 01792 782341 or use their website regarding driving the car in the UK to the port without road tax. However you will need insurance on the vehicle.

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Just talked with the dealer again, he explained the reason they did not want to tax the car themselves, was to avoide putting another owner on the V5. I told him it makes no odds to us if there is one or two owners listed on the V5 as the car is coming to Ireland and my sister intends to keep the car for quite a while anyway. So they are going to tax the car today and all will be ready for me to collect on monday :thumbup:

Cheers for all your input guys an gals :thumbup:

tax it and insure it at a mates house in the uk then register it when they run out:)....thats what my mate did with his A4 avant he brought over. I drove around in my old golf for over year before i registerd it :)

k:)

Car is covered by a transfer of my own insurance anyway, so it was never an issue really, was just the road tax :thumbup:

Make sure your own is well locked up, as it's has effectively NO Insurance ;)

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Make sure your own is well locked up, as it's has effectively NO Insurance ;)

My car was locked up well off the road :thumbup:, would never just leave it outside the house with NO cover :eek:

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