im lowering my car pretty soon and im thinking about some wheel spacers for the rear to finish it off nicely.

do i need longer bolts for these ones? as these seem pretty cheap and would i notice any difference in handling at all from them?

Buy Wheel spacers - Audi, Seat, Skoda and VW 5 hole 16mm (pair) - 5x100 by PRI Racing Ltd. buy online

thanks in advance, Kieran

you can get 15mm hubcentric ones on ebay that come with suitable bolts as well for not alot more than these.

but yes I think you would need longer bolts to use them. With regards to handling I'm not 100% sure. but let me know as I was thinking of spacing my rear wheels out about this much. would i notice much in looks?

Yes. With Stu's example of 15mm spacers, you'd need 15mm longer bolts to stop the bolts pulling through. In fact, you might need longer bolts just to get bolt contact with the hub tappings.

I'm prepared to be proved wrong on this with these cars, but I've heard tales of FWD cars being unsettled when trying to go in a straight line if the rear track is wider than the front, and the geometry is not reset to suit. Given that there is very little adjustability in a Furbie suspension, and very little in the way of methods to add more...

do you not bolt the spacer onto the hub and then bolt the wheel onto the spacer?

do you not bolt the spacer onto the hub and then bolt the wheel onto the spacer?

hubcentrics sit on the hub, and provide a hub for the wheel itself. They only "bolt" on via the longer wheel bolts which go snugly straight through the 5*100 bolt patten on them. At least +15mm bolts needed.

must depend what you go for, I'm looking at some H&R jobbies which bolt to the hub

20mm?

yeah, for the rear

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Would they be okay? and it says i can buy the bolts for £1.80 each. but then i wont get a locking wheel nut?

20mm ones might due to the bolts needing to be so long, they might reduce the tolerances needed to stop snapping?

A lot of the boltable ones tend to also be adaptors such as 5x100 vag to 5x120 porsche, etc

Likewise; my experience has always been that boltables are also adapters (although if the "new" wheel uses the same bolt seat as VAG you can reuse the VAG bolts if the adapter's thick enough for the bolt end to not contact the hub).

Any spacer below 20mm will require extended bolts and spacers 20mm and above are usually the bolt on type.

I'd say stick with H&R which are the best spacers on the market.

Damian @ DPM Performance

Eibach spacers are a good solution too.. I have them on the rear of my fabia.

Kev

has anyone got pictures of fabia's running spacers on the back either 15 or 20mm?

Any comments on handling from people already running spacers?

The widening of the rear track (assumes same wheels and tyres, unchanged suspension for simplicity) will increase the rear roll stiffness, which will reduce geometric understeer in the dry. Since the rest of the setup is unchanged, this happens without the increase in limitting understeer in the wet that increased spring rates or a rear ARB would cause.

However, a rear track wider than the front on an FWD car causes straight line instability on an even slightly rutted surface.

i have 35mm 5x100>5x130 H&R adaptors on the rear, it probably works out my back track is around 1.5" wider than standard.

the car handles well, the back end seems to be firm on the road and i dont have any straight line issues.

front is running 20mm 5x100>5x130 H&R adaptors so is probably sitting the the same as standard.

the adaptors are bolt on, so i didnt need special wheel bolts.