hi all, after a month of ownership the car has started an intermittent stutter, as if starved of fuel, usually under light throttle in lower gears (up to and including 3rd) at about 1800/2000 rpm and feels down on power. Any ideas? Could this be an egr issue? Any help gratefully received as i know if i take it to the dealer they won't do anything if they can't reproduce it:(

morning bump-hoping someone on here can be of assistance today:)

Some ideas (freely flowing):

- Did you clean the airfilter? How many miles on it?

- I would drive very brisky for a long stretch of motorway and see if this natural cleaning will sort anything.

- Perhaps bad fuel? Add some cleaning agent (a 200cc of nafta based turpentine would do the trick).

HTH

Some ideas (freely flowing):

- Did you clean the airfilter? How many miles on it?

- I would drive very brisky for a long stretch of motorway and see if this natural cleaning will sort anything.

- Perhaps bad fuel? Add some cleaning agent (a 200cc of nafta based turpentine would do the trick).

HTH

Thanks for your thoughts. The car has done 15000 miles so not sure if this is a long time for filters. As a mechanical numpty I haven't gone anywhere near the engine. I'll find out where the filter is and have a look if I can tell as not sure what a blocked one looks like or how to clean it:doh: I did take it on a long run but to no avail, but fuel could be an answer. I ususally fill up from tesco so no idea if this is good or bad:confused:

More info would be useful to help;

Mileage? Last serviced? What air filter and when last changed? Under normal driving or during the 'warm up' period? What fuel and when last refuelled? etc. etc.

I ask the above as my vRS will hesitate/stutter from time to time on light throttle but only during the 'warm up' period when the coolant temp gauge is in the 'not quite warm enough' area. When fully warmed (temp gauge needle vertical) engine is really sweet. It seems like the ECU cannot quite balance the mixture; a touch more throttle will cure it.

PS> just seen you replied whilst I was typing this; at 15,000 miles definitely worth checking the air filter/intake for blockage and £15 for a new OE filter (or £40 for a K&N or similar that you can clean)could be money worth spending.

Edited 16 July, 200916 yr by bahnstormer vrs
PS> added

I ask the above as my vRS will hesitate/stutter from time to time on light throttle but only during the 'warm up' period when the coolant temp gauge is in the 'not quite warm enough' area. When fully warmed (temp gauge needle vertical) engine is really sweet. It seems like the ECU cannot quite balance the mixture; a touch more throttle will cure it.

Bahnstormer, following yours, honestly,

notwithstanding some tricks (like cleaned foam filter, Vpower diesel) I still have a couple of suboptimal areas of working of my PD170:

- when moving from still, I often tend to apply less throttle than needed to leave quickly. When although gently releasing the clutch, the car tends to sit down. There is a distinct lack of torque at low revs and this rather disturbs me, above all along town driving. I seem this happens more when engine is warmer, rather than cold. But this happens when outside temp is hotter, too. So perhaps it's a matter of air temperature/density and ECU fuelling?

- when stretching legs along motorways, I have some difficulties to reach high rpms in 5th and 6th gear. I assume this is due to the limits of my air feed.

Ciao

I ask the above as my vRS will hesitate/stutter from time to time on light throttle but only during the 'warm up' period when the coolant temp gauge is in the 'not quite warm enough' area. When fully warmed (temp gauge needle vertical) engine is really sweet. It seems like the ECU cannot quite balance the mixture; a touch more throttle will cure it.

Bahnstormer, following yours, honestly,

notwithstanding some tricks (like cleaned foam filter, Vpower diesel) I still have a couple of suboptimal areas of working of my PD170:

- when moving from still, I often tend to apply less throttle than needed to leave quickly. When although gently releasing the clutch, the car tends to sit down.

Have you had the 26E6 remap etc. done? This was a characteristic of my car from new, but it got changed with the 26E6 map with the engine now providing a stronger response under 2000 rpm (I now don't stall the car {much}).

There is a distinct lack of torque at low revs and this rather disturbs me, above all along town driving. I seem this happens more when engine is warmer, rather than cold. But this happens when outside temp is hotter, too. So perhaps it's a matter of air temperature/density and ECU fuelling?

When we had a mini heatwave about 2 weeks ago with temps of 30degC+ here in London I noticed low speed response was definitely down, particularly when in traffic when the under bonnet temperate would be high (with no cooling airflow going through).

- when stretching legs along motorways, I have some difficulties to reach high rpms in 5th and 6th gear. I assume this is due to the limits of my air feed.

I wish! I can't do this as speed limits/traffic do not permit. However, a K&N 57i intake will improve your top end breathing

PS> Remind me; did you get your car remapped?

Have you had the 26E6 remap etc. done? This was a characteristic of my car from new, but it got changed with the 26E6 map with the engine now providing a stronger response under 2000 rpm (I now don't stall the car {much}).

No, as far as I know.

When we had a mini heatwave about 2 weeks ago with temps of 30degC+ here in London I noticed low speed response was definitely down, particularly when in traffic when the under bonnet temperate would be high (with no cooling airflow going through).

It's several days there are standard temps here. But I suffer similar effects even not at the highest temps.

Honestly the remap didn't help a lot in the very very low range (800 - 1200, let's say). After that it removed the off-on effect and generally smoothed the car.

No, as far as I know. (26E6)

It's several days there are standard temps here. But I suffer similar effects even not at the highest temps

Honestly the remap didn't help a lot in the very very low range (800 - 1200, let's say). After that it removed the off-on effect and generally smoothed the car.

You ought to get the 26E6 remap and new exhaust gas pressure sensor done ASAP; you will notice the difference below 2000rpm, much smoother to drive and less 'all or nothing with turbo response'. It also changes the frequency of the DPF regeneration and this may well help clean your DPF better and thus give the engine a chance to run smoother at high rpm.

Trip to your dealer required!

Ima, might be worth a call to Motorline Skoda in Canterbury, they had PD vRS in about a month ago that i was scheduled to go down to look view a view to buying but apparently it had a stuttering misfire-like problem they were having trouble diagnosing. This one had 25k on the clock so it wont be the car you've bought tahnkfully! I bought another nicer car elsewhere in the end anyway before they could sort their one out, but at least they might be able to tell you what was wrong in the end with their car so you;d have a steer where to look on yours.

Is there any way of knowing if a car has the 26E6 map and newer exhaust gas pressure sensor? My car is a sept 2007 model from when on did these components become standard fit from new? I have 29,000 KM on the clock of my car now, asked a dealer service agent about the 26E6 map and he hadnt a clue...

Cheers,

Alan

Is there any way of knowing if a car has the 26E6 map and newer exhaust gas pressure sensor? My car is a sept 2007 model from when on did these components become standard fit from new? I have 29,000 KM on the clock of my car now, asked a dealer service agent about the 26E6 map and he hadnt a clue...

Cheers,

Alan

IIRC the 26E6 mod came out in about May/June 2008; I had my car dealt with in July 2008. All new cars from this time will be OK. As the 26E6 mod is a 'campaign' as opposed to a 'recall' it is done on an 'as required' basis. I had a DPF problem so it got done; if your car is running OK then it won't get done - unless you ask for it!

If yours is a Sept 07 it will need to be done and any Skoda dealer should be able (I guess) to look up on their central computer to know whether it has been or not. Your dealer 'not having a clue' does not inspire confidence.

Thanks for that bhanstormer...I am due a service in the next few weeks so might try and speak to some one else regarding it. Also within the next month or so I plan to buy a bluefin, should I get the 26E6 map uploaded first before remaping the car with bluefin?

Thanks for that bhanstormer...I am due a service in the next few weeks so might try and speak to some one else regarding it.

Good luck.

Also within the next month or so I plan to buy a bluefin, should I get the 26E6 map uploaded first before remaping the car with bluefin?

Yes; definitely - I did it this way. Saves any aggro of having to redo the Bluefin after the 26E6.

Cheers thanks for the info bahnstormer!!!

Well,

I've read that after dynoing, 26E6 remap had some heavy downsides on max power...

Did you experience anything similar?

Well,

I've read that after dynoing, 26E6 remap had some heavy downsides on max power...

Did you experience anything similar?

Categorically NOT.

My car had been dyno'd about nine months before getting the 26E6 and then was dyno'd after the 26E6 at Superchips HQ prior to them installing the Bluefin remap - the before & after readings were within 2bhp of each other (acceptable difference I would suggest for two reading 15 months apart on different machines and with different climate).

QED

More info would be useful to help;

Mileage? Last serviced? What air filter and when last changed? Under normal driving or during the 'warm up' period? What fuel and when last refuelled? etc. etc.

I ask the above as my vRS will hesitate/stutter from time to time on light throttle but only during the 'warm up' period when the coolant temp gauge is in the 'not quite warm enough' area. When fully warmed (temp gauge needle vertical) engine is really sweet. It seems like the ECU cannot quite balance the mixture; a touch more throttle will cure it.

PS> just seen you replied whilst I was typing this; at 15,000 miles definitely worth checking the air filter/intake for blockage and £15 for a new OE filter (or £40 for a K&N or similar that you can clean)could be money worth spending.

Thanks all for the help. Funnily enough, it does seem to be more noticeable when the car is warming up. I remember driving the fabia vrs with the EGR stutter and this feels similar, but not a problem anyone else seems to have had with this engine. Anyway I'll get an airfilter for sure and hope it dosen't get worse.

I'd second the advice for the 26E6 upgrade. Be aware it will wipe your re-map. Don't know which re-map you had, but I'd question how effective it was if you're left with these stuttering and hesitation issues.

I had similar issues and went for a re-map by Angel Tuning. It eliminated all the hesitancy at low revs and transformed the car.

I'd second the advice for the 26E6 upgrade. Be aware it will wipe your re-map. Don't know which re-map you had, but I'd question how effective it was if you're left with these stuttering and hesitation issues.

I had similar issues and went for a re-map by Angel Tuning. It eliminated all the hesitancy at low revs and transformed the car.

Thank you Phil, I was aware of that. Anyway it's good to let it be well known.

About the hesitation, it's not something I can't manage by paying attention when taking off, but this morning my wife's 1.2 Jazz was quicker to "awake" even if with 2 adults + 2 lils and their accessories...

Categorically NOT.

My car had been dyno'd about nine months before getting the 26E6 and then was dyno'd after the 26E6 at Superchips HQ prior to them installing the Bluefin remap - the before & after readings were within 2bhp of each other (acceptable difference I would suggest for two reading 15 months apart on different machines and with different climate).

QED

Thank you Bahn,

I'll ask my dealer to get "her" serviced. Do you eventually know if this 26E6 update is known all around Europe?

Thank you again,

Thank you Bahn,

I'll ask my dealer to get "her" serviced. Do you eventually know if this 26E6 update is known all around Europe?

Thank you again,

Yes, as far as I know and includes all VAG group cars using the PD 170 engine e.g. Golf GT, Audi A3

Not sure if this is this problem exactly that I may have or not. Car is a Sept 08 PD170 and I have some hesitation at lower revs but from reading this the later cars like this had the newer 26E6 map? Maybe if my car was made earlier before being registered it could still be on the old map?

Not sure if this is this problem exactly that I may have or not. Car is a Sept 08 PD170 and I have some hesitation at lower revs but from reading this the later cars like this had the newer 26E6 map? Maybe if my car was made earlier before being registered it could still be on the old map?

Likely you car will be post 26E6 production but a simple job to contact your dealer and check. Yes?

Not sure if this is this problem exactly that I may have or not. Car is a Sept 08 PD170 and I have some hesitation at lower revs but from reading this the later cars like this had the newer 26E6 map? Maybe if my car was made earlier before being registered it could still be on the old map?

My car has the stutter and the 26E6 map, but seems to have improved lately after a dam good thrashing, so maybe airfilter related as suggested. Also, does your stutter improve when the engine is warm. Mine does and again there is a possible normal explanation:rolleyes: