As of 18th Jan you can now order 2 new engines-

You can now order the 1.6CR TDi engine with 7 speed DSG.

You can also now order the new 1.2TSi engine as found in the Yeti in the Octavia in both manual and 7 speed DSG format.

I didn't see this one coming!

Edited 15 January, 201016 yr by Allams Skoda

Nice - thanks for sharing

Edited 15 January, 201016 yr by Phil_P

Thanks James,

are they dropping the 1.6MPI and 105PD finally then?

Regards,

TP

As of 18th Jan you can now order 2 new engines-

You can now order the 1.6CR TDi engine with 7 speed DSG.

You can also now order the new 1.2TSi engine as found in the Yeti in the Octavia in both manual and 7 speed DSG format.

I didn't see this one coming!

Thanks james

You'd really have to want the diesel though at £2400 more than the 1.2tsi!

Thanks James,

are they dropping the 1.6MPI and 105PD finally then?

Regards,

TP

No they are going keep running with the 1.9TDi engine for a while as the entry-level diesel option and the 1.6MPi was only brought back out as a stop gap when we couldn't get any of the TSI petrols, hopefully that MPi engine can go back to the history books where it belongs. I'm really not a fan of that engine at all. I reckon a 1.2TSI DSG Octavia will actually be suprisingly good.

I reckon a 1.2TSI DSG Octavia will actually be suprisingly good.

Unfortunately many still have a cubic capacity ' hang up' but those TSi 's really are something special. The Octy's refined 1.4 TSi 122ps is a very surprising unit with its low and mid range torque band. The 1.2 TSi should also prove to be a very satisfying unit and if it suits the 7 speed DSG, as with its larger brethren, it will be a surefire winner.

Inefficient normally aspirated large capacity engines are a dying breed.

Unfortunately many still have a cubic capacity ' hang up' but those TSi 's really are something special. The Octy's refined 1.4 TSi 122ps is a very surprising unit with its low and mid range torque band. The 1.2 TSi should also prove to be a very satisfying unit and if it suits the 7 speed DSG, as with its larger brethren, it will be a surefire winner.

Inefficient normally aspirated large capacity engines are a dying breed.

Yes, the thought of a 1.2L engine in an estate car like the Octy just seems strange. I think I'd want to test drive one fully laden just to convince myself it's not under-powered.

No they are going keep running with the 1.9TDi engine for a while as the entry-level diesel option and the 1.6MPi was only brought back out as a stop gap when we couldn't get any of the TSI petrols, hopefully that MPi engine can go back to the history books where it belongs. I'm really not a fan of that engine at all. I reckon a 1.2TSI DSG Octavia will actually be suprisingly good.

Many thanks for your reply James.

Yeti owners are very happy with this motor, so no reason for it not to be a big hit with Octavia and the price is good too. Just need a decent Fabia FL with this motor (but not just in top spec only as with Polo) and I might tempt the wife from her Corsa :S

Regards,

TP

knowing nothing about the 1.2 tsi, or modern engines i'm curious to whats different to a normal 1.2 as i see its 105bhp, traditional 1.2 are around 60bhp,

Unfortunately many still have a cubic capacity ' hang up' but those TSi 's really are something special. The Octy's refined 1.4 TSi 122ps is a very surprising unit with its low and mid range torque band. The 1.2 TSi should also prove to be a very satisfying unit and if it suits the 7 speed DSG, as with its larger brethren, it will be a surefire winner.

Inefficient normally aspirated large capacity engines are a dying breed.

Seconded.

I've been driving a 1.4TSI (122bhp) for the last couple of days in lieu of my usual vRS TDI as a loan car whilst mine was in for a Service. This, the 1.4TSI, is a stormingly good engine so if the 1.2TSI is anyway near as good, Skoda are onto a winner.

All I want to know now (and I know this is really the wrong forum) is when Skoda UK will add the DSG gearbox to the 2.0L CR TDI 170 Yeti? They have the DSG on the CR 170 in the Octavia, so why not in Yeti?

any idea of the mpg figures for the 1.6 dsg? I'm guessing as the CO2 is the same with the golf the mpg will be too?

Edited 16 January, 201016 yr by polocoupe

any idea of the mpg figures for the 1.6 dsg? I'm guessing as the CO2 is the same with the golf the mpg will be too?

Probably not much different, perhaps 1-2mpg if anything; but otherwise I haven't a clue.

Is that how cars generate such low emisions nowadays by using smaller engines and a million forward gears ?.i think it's a tad too much 7 speeds in a 1.2TSi.It may develop a 105 bhp,same as a 1.9 Pd engine but i bet the engine has to be revved harder .....

Is that how cars generate such low emisions nowadays by using smaller engines and a million forward gears ?.i think it's a tad too much 7 speeds in a 1.2TSi.It may develop a 105 bhp,same as a 1.9 Pd engine but i bet the engine has to be revved harder .....

1.9 TDi PD 105 :-

105 bhp at 4000 rpm Max torque 250Nm at 1900 rpm

1.4 TSi 122

122 bhp at 5000 rpm Max torque 200Nm from 1500 rpm to 4000rpm

1.2 TSi 105

105 bhp at 5000 rpm Max torque 175 Nm from 1500 rpm to 3500 rpm

That's comparing a diesel with petrol!

Only the DSG dry version has 7 speeds, manuals have 6.

Edited 16 January, 201016 yr by Bassa

I was hoping you were going to say 170HP CR on the Scout and 265HP TFSI on the vRS

Steve

The 1.6TDI CR with DSG has been available in the Republic of Ireland in the Octavia for a while now, good to see you've joined the party!

knowing nothing about the 1.2 tsi, or modern engines i'm curious to whats different to a normal 1.2 as i see its 105bhp, traditional 1.2 are around 60bhp,

1.2 TSI = turbocharged engine

Normal 1.2 = non-turbocharged engine

i'm loving the figures for the 1.2, very impressive (and thats from someone currently driving a 6.1 monster!)- any performance figs yet?

And 1.2 co2 data eg hiw much going to cost to tax! I still think 1.2 might be way to small if you fully loaded up.

There's a bit in autocar saying the a vw 1.4 tsi is a lot greener than a Toyota hybried thing

James

If you look at the figures the bhp is more or less the same but the diesel achieves these figures at lower revs and the torque output ( which I find more useful than bhp ) offered by the diesel is much more than the petrol equiavalents again at much lower engine speed ....

1.9 TDi PD 105 :-

105 bhp at 4000 rpm Max torque 250Nm at 1900 rpm

1.4 TSi 122

122 bhp at 5000 rpm Max torque 200Nm from 1500 rpm to 4000rpm

1.2 TSi 105

105 bhp at 5000 rpm Max torque 175 Nm from 1500 rpm to 3500 rpm

That's comparing a diesel with petrol!

Only the DSG dry version has 7 speeds, manuals have 6.

And 1.2 co2 data eg hiw much going to cost to tax!

The 1.2 is going to be £120 Per year in tax, with or without DSG.

If you look at the figures the bhp is more or less the same but the diesel achieves these figures at lower revs and the torque output ( which I find more useful than bhp ) offered by the diesel is much more than the petrol equiavalents again at much lower engine speed ....

The 1.4 TSi produces 17 bhp more than the 1.9 TDI Both petrols may produce slightly less maximum torque than the TDI but what they do achieve commences at lower revs and is over a broader range.

When it comes down to engine refinement, then that of course is a no brainer.

Attached may help!

Bassa, what do you reckon your true average mpg is for your 1.4Tsi motor? (I know you're in love with your car but ...No lying,no streching the truth, be honest....)

My recent experiences leads me to believe that VAG have gone much further down the fantasy mpg / Co2 route. The published figures being way way too optimistic (because of the legal requirements imposed on them by the EU regarding overall CO2 emissions are they deliberately manipulating the truth???)

My new Fabia 1.2 struggles to get 35mpg (Urban figure 48mpg) and I'm a very experienced ECO driver - its only done 3000 miles but it still is much worse than the MK1 I had at that mileage.

Had similar experiences with recent diesel Corsas etc. with wildly optimistic 60+mpg trip computers and 45 mpg at the pumps - I even embarrased myself by calling in Trade Standards to a Shell garage to check their pump calibration!

I still find it amazing that I can easily get 55mpg in a 2 tonne Alhambra with old fashioned rotary pumped Tdi engine - 60mpg if I try....

I am interested in the 1.2TSi Octavia, but somehow I think the consumption figures will be fantasy and I note they've gone back to using ignition coil with HT leads which is a very retrograde step.

On the other hand the 1.6CR - DPF,DMF,CR,Cambelt.........is it a (financial) disaster waiting to happen???

Already decided that DSG is not for me...too risky in the long run.

Bassa, what do you reckon your true average mpg is for your 1.4Tsi motor? (I know you're in love with your car but ...No lying,no streching the truth, be honest....)

My recent experiences leads me to believe that VAG have gone much further down the fantasy mpg / Co2 route. The published figures being way way too optimistic (because of the legal requirements imposed on them by the EU regarding overall CO2 emissions are they deliberately manipulating the truth???)

My new Fabia 1.2 struggles to get 35mpg (Urban figure 48mpg) and I'm a very experienced ECO driver - its only done 3000 miles but it still is much worse than the MK1 I had at that mileage.

Had similar experiences with recent diesel Corsas etc. with wildly optimistic 60+mpg trip computers and 45 mpg at the pumps - I even embarrased myself by calling in Trade Standards to a Shell garage to check their pump calibration!

I still find it amazing that I can easily get 55mpg in a 2 tonne Alhambra with old fashioned rotary pumped Tdi engine - 60mpg if I try....

I am interested in the 1.2TSi Octavia, but somehow I think the consumption figures will be fantasy and I note they've gone back to using ignition coil with HT leads which is a very retrograde step.

On the other hand the 1.6CR - DPF,DMF,CR,Cambelt.........is it a (financial) disaster waiting to happen???

Already decided that DSG is not for me...too risky in the long run.

Personally I'm not too over concerned with mpg since I'm only a low mileage driver these days. All I can say is that with normal mixed driving conditions 40 to 45 is easily achievable providing the right peg remains sensible. The 7 speed DSG I'm sure helps to achieve this because with care even in 30mph areas the gearbox is soon up to 5th or 6th gear. If I drove akin to some boy racer then no doubt I'd only see mid 30's at best. Overall I'm very pleased, not only with the car's performance, but also its relative lack of thirst making it such a good package. Oh, I also use BP Ultimate - always.

Not quite sure of your DSG concerns, there are several folk on this forum that have covered high mileages trouble free.