Almost set on getting a Superb Greenline but have a nagging concern over the 105bhp. is it really enough for a car the size of the Superb?

I have had 2 short test drives but didnt really get a proper feel for the engine. (I also had a proper test drive of a 170bhp DSG which i thought was great.)

In one of the test drives i found gear changes to be a bit on the rough side. Could this be because i'm used to driving a 1.4l petrol?

I also have driven a mates 5 year old Octy a few times and thought the engine was fine in that, a bit growly but otherwise decent.

I and the missus will be doing a complete mix of driving: urban, motorway and the windiest, bumpiest Irish country roads you can get. To complete the stereotype I would also be prone to doing more overtaking manoeuvres than herself, nothing on the wild\dangerous side though.

Don't forget it produces the same torque as the 1.8TSI, so it's really a case of learning to make good gear selections for the type of driving you're doing. It won't be a rocketship, but my sister-in-law's A3 Sportback has the same engine, and its performance seems perfectly adequate for a car that can't be much different in weight...

Don't forget it produces the same torque as the 1.8TSI ..

Which is very torquey for a 1800cc petrol engine.

If you are having doubts, go for a longer drive in one. The PD105 moves the Octy along brisky enough, I imagine it would be at least "adequate".

.............Could this be because i'm used to driving a 1.4l petrol?

Driving a diesel is a completely different animal to a petrol. The power band is in a completely different part of the rev range.

I'm sure there is adequate torque for overtaking as it is a diesel, but you could always get it remapped for bigger BHP and better torque. Get a proper remap though, not a cheap add on generic tuning box!!!

I feel a thread merge coming on:

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/149220-chipping-skoda-superb-greenline/page__view__findpost__p__1867917

I feel a thread merge coming on:

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/149220-chipping-skoda-superb-greenline/page__view__findpost__p__1867917

No need to merge, If i buy i dont intend to remap and void my warranty!

So what are the power bands and what are the right revs for gear changes?

Edited 21 January, 201016 yr by Scruffie

Seriously, take a test drive! People's advice is only worth so much, and if you're asking about power bands, then you're only going to get a satisfactory answer first-hand...

Seriously, take a test drive! People's advice is only worth so much, and if you're asking about power bands, then you're only going to get a satisfactory answer first-hand...

I fully agree, get a longer test drive, while no fire ball the 105 aint that bad if you are not looking for a power house machine

If its any help, I've now had my Greenline for two weeks and don't regret the decision to trade in my Superb PD 130 for it. It is a little slower than my old car, but it is so much better in many other ways. It is still sprightly off the mark when its needed, although 4th and 5th are much longer ratios than in my old car hence the stunning fuel economy I'm getting - Fuel computer says 63mpg average since I bought it - brim to brim refills of the tank show it's over reading by 2mpg - that's accurate enough for me and far better than my PD130. Don't forget - it is also a lighter car than the Octy.

I have driven a 170 version and to be honest, whilst it's nice to have the power, I don't actually need it!

Ride is superb(sic) even over the potholed Kent country ones and I have to say that in Candy White attracts just as many positive comments in car parks as my 35 year old Triumph Stag!- must admit that was a surprise!

I fully agree, get a longer test drive, while no fire ball the 105 aint that bad if you are not looking for a power house machine

Compared with my 115k miles Octy II with the same engine, I found my Superb reluctant to pull from lower speeds. At 3k miles it was remapped which transformed the car instantly. The car now pulls strongly in all gears and yet returns 54-55mpg (actual, not MFD) with sensible driving.

A 140Tdi or 170CR would have been nice, however, the economy would have suffered and this is important as I travel over 30k miles per year, for which I presently receive £0.11 for every business related mile.

My advise would be to take a 1.9Tdi 105 for a long test drive of at least 50 miles and on as wide a variety of roads and surfaces as possible.

haven spent plenty of time in a PD105 passat, IMO the car is underpowered

The 105 engine if fine in a Fabia, but a Superb..... Would be lacking for me.

The 105 engine if fine in a Fabia, but a Superb..... Would be lacking for me.

agree totally

agree totally

To respond to the above, it's horses for courses I think, I have been very happy with my 105ps Greenline since I picked it up a couple of weeks ago, despite trading down from a PD130 Superb Mk1. The only time I notice any lack of power is under hard acceleration, but unless you are intent on being a boy racer I don't think this really matters.

Today I did a rush hour trip from home (near Tunbridge Wells in Kent) along a congested M25 to Heathrow, picked up some friends with their luggage and returned home - It didn't take any longer than it would have taken my old more powerful car, it was very comfortable and smooth and the Fuel Computer showed 70.4 mpg average for the whole trip. (yes I know it is optimistic with its readings, but as I have said before, brim to brim refills suggests it to be 5% overreading - so I'm very happy with that)

At no time did I feel the car was underpowered, it was lively enough to keep up where needed and flexible enough to trundle along at tickover when needed - so a big YES 105bhp can be enough

Our Citroen Picasso isn't a small car, and is a 1.6 HDI with 92bhp, and it seems plenty pokey enough.

Is 105bhp enough?

No.

I have the 1.9 105bhp in an SE model and would add that if you are used to a more powerful turbo-diesel then you may be dissapointed with it. However, I moved from an Astra 1.8 petrol to the Superb 1.9 105 bhp and can honestly say that acceleration wise (with correct gear changes) I am not disspointed. The Acceleration at the top end of the rev range obviously dies away but for normal sort of overtaking, I have no complaints.

As many others have suggested though, all the comments, including my own are only subjective. You really need a long test drivein varying traffic conditions.

I'm moving from a Honda Civic IMA (A hybrid) to the Superb Greenline

IMO 105 HP is fine, but that's coming from a car where even thinking about overtaking on a single-carriageway was tantamount to suicide, and would have the men in white coats chasing you.

When you decide to go for the tax dodge that a Greenline type ca gives, you have to ackgnowledge that you get what you pay for. You're emissions are lower, and so is your tax bill, but you'll definately pay for that in reduced performance.

If you pay for your own fuel, and your own car, then there's not the same incentive to get the greenline model. the savings just dont add up in that situation.

Get the 140 or 170 HP model in that case. it's worth the tiny extra amount of fuel you'll use.

The VW put greenline technology in the 140HP engine car giving a slightly reduced emmissions on the similar car without those technologies (spoilers, lowered suspension, no spare wheel etc...) That one may be worth considering if you're looking at a 2010 Superb.

I've a PD105 in a Octavia, but i'd imagine mine would weigh less than most around. Due to it having no rear electric windows or speakers, aswell as no air-con.

Its brisk enough for driving around town, but somewhat lacking for overtaking manouvers on the motorway.

Now with a remap i can vouch that overtaking can be made alot easier, i use to leave it in 5th and just build the throttle up and id look down after the overtake and i'd end up being quite suprised sometimes.

I've since had the map removed though, as the previous owners had it tuned a little too agressively IMO. Plus i wasn't aware it was mapped.

170hp isnt enough for me i'd have liked the 3.6 but cant afford two gas guzzlers

I have a 105 bhp superb and have had it remapped to almost 140bhp, this is a perfect balance for the car!!!