And where's the Lancia Delta Integrale? The more I look at that list, it's obviously been compiled by people under 30.

Edited 4 February, 201016 yr by wja96

well they are developing a mk2 vrs :unfortunatly a petrol engine to start but the same engine from the golf gti d for later on!

gota say it is a great hot hatch and its good to see a diesel up there!

well they are developing a mk2 vrs :unfortunatly a petrol engine to start but the same engine from the golf gti d for later on!

gota say it is a great hot hatch and its good to see a diesel up there!

So they are making a MK2 Fabia vRS diesel? With the CR170 unit then? Where did you hear this great news?

So they are making a MK2 Fabia vRS diesel? With the CR170 unit then? Where did you hear this great news?

Oh ffs.

The Ibzia FR is available to order with a 140-spec TDI CR. So it would be natural to assume the same engine to be available for the Fabia vRS at some point.

Edited 4 February, 201016 yr by Babs

Oh ffs.

The Ibzia FR is available to order with a 140-spec TDI CR. So it would be natural to assume the same engine to be available for the Fabia vRS at some point.

I know this. He said GTi D which is the CR170 unit. Furthermore, you shouldnt assume anything Babs... Skoda have realised TDi power, and gone petrol power with the vRS mk2... do you have a link to skoda saying they are bringing out a diesel!?

nope i just went to my dealer, i asked wether or not it was a diesel he said no... not to start with it should be a 170bhp petrol however there are plans to bring out a diesel later on after the spring/summer release of the petrol one. Again i asked weather or not it would probably be the one in the golf and he said yes it may well be, to keep the power from both engines the same apealing to more people, the details are very ropey at the mo so dont take it as gospel they are concentrating on the superb estate!

if they did use the 170bhp diesel i could see them tuning up the petrol

Nope, but I was bringing some facts into the equation, rather than merely wishing so, like lex

nope i just went to my dealer, i asked wether or not it was a diesel he said no... not to start with it should be a 170bhp petrol however there are plans to bring out a diesel later on after the spring/summer release of the petrol one. Again i asked weather or not it would probably be the one in the golf and he said yes it may well be, to keep the power from both engines the same apealing to more people, the details are very ropey at the mo so dont take it as gospel they are concentrating on the superb estate!

if they did use the 170bhp diesel i could see them tuning up the petrol

So just to confirm you got told there would be a diesel vRS and possible for GTD engine from a dealers sales guy?

yes i have been tole there will be a diesel mk2 vrs at some point maybee with the GTD engine however there alot of engine they could use instead so dont get up your hopes....if you type in new fabia vrs on yahoo images there are a few teaser pics of what the mk2 will look like. Please dont take this as gospel it is sort of speculation but all the signs are there that there will be a diesel.

http://www.vagowners.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=10320

ok

there you go then tbh i cant wait it looks radical.

My list:-

1. VW Golf GTI Mk II

2. Ford Escort RS Turbo Series 1

3. Renault Clio Williams

4 Ford Fiesta mk1 Supersport

5. Fiat Strada Abarth 130TC

6. Vauxhall Astra GTE 16v

7. Peugeot 205 GTI 1.6

8. Citroen Visa GTi

9. Skoda Fabia vRS

10. Renaultsport Clio 182 Cup

11. Peugeot 306 Rallye

12. Renault 5 GT Turbo Raider

13. VW Golf GTI Mk I 1.6i 4-speed

14. Peugeot 106 Rallye Series 2

15. Honda Civic Type R EK9

16. Fiat Uno Turbo

17. Mini Cooper Works GP

18. Honda Civic Type R EP3

19. Alfa Romeo Alfasud Cloverleaf

20. Fiat 500 Arbarth essess

there you go then tbh i cant wait it looks radical.

It wont look much like that, and it will have a petrol 150 DSG unit, and then a year or so later a 140CR diesel unit 6spd manual. But yeah...

They Seem to have placed the MkII and MkV Golfs above the MkI , clearly flawed, although it is a poll, is it the public or AE that have placed the votes?

I would have thought the Mk2 would be above the Mk2 and Mk5 just because its what started them off. I cannot see why the fabia should not be in that list it meets the demands of a hot hatch, affordable, cheapish to run and insure and lots of fun. If you are think Cosworth then you will be adding the likes of the Impreza and Evo, which are different from hot hatches.

They Seem to have placed the MkII and MkV Golfs above the MkI , clearly flawed, although it is a poll, is it the public or AE that have placed the votes?

the mk1 one the first,and is definatly a hard act to follow as an iconic car,but the mk2 16v raised the bar through the roof,and no golf has ever matched it :yes: (tho i am a little biased)

Is the Honda Integra DC2 a hot hatch? As surely that should be there above the Civic's as apart from the NSX it pretty much started off the "Type R" fad?

Plus it still beats the pants off of all Civics today (Standard vs Standard) :-D

Is the Honda Integra DC2 a hot hatch?................

Nah. Definately not.

Nah. Definately not.

*Shrugs shoulders*

No bother...

*Shrugs shoulders*

No bother...

the teg is a coupe :p

Yep gotta give it the +1 on the above

Here is my top 20......don't know if all are hatchbacks? Maybe not in this order.

1. Lancia Delta Integrale

2. VW Golf GTi Mk1

3. Peugeot 205 GTI 1.9

4. Renault Clio Williams

5. VW Golf R32

6. Ford Escort Cosworth

7. Lotus Sunbeam

8. Nissan Sunny GTi-R

9. Renault 5 GT Turbo

10. Peugeot 306 GTi-6 - Rallye

11. Ford Focus RS Mk1

12. Renault Clio V6

13. Honda Integra Type R

14. Renault Clio Cup

15. Honda Civic Type R Mk1

16. Renault Megane R26R

17. Citroen Saxo VTR/VTS

18. Escort RS Turbo

19. Toyota Starlet Turbo

20. MG Maestro Turbo

A "hot hatch" has to be a practical every day car as well as being fun and quick. A few on your list that certainly aren't!

Ahm Babs. The 306 Rallye/GTI6 is probably the closest thing you could get to the 205 GTI. In fact it bettered it in every way! Both should be top of that list!

1. Peugeot 306 Rallye/GTI6

2. Peugeot 205 GTI

3. Renaultsport Clio 200 Cup

4. Renault Clio Williams

5. Honda Civic Type R Mk I

6. Ford Focus RS Mk I

7. Renault 5 GT Turbo

8. Honda Civic Type R Mk II

9. Peugeot 106 Rallye Series 2

10. Citroen Saxo VTS

11. Mini Cooper Works GP

12. Golf GTI MK II

13. Golf GTI MK V

14. Golf GTI MK1

15. Vauxhall Astra GTE 16v

16. Ford Escort XR3i

17 Ford Fiesta XR2 Mk II

18 Skoda Fabia vRS

19. Fiat Strada Abarth

20. Alfa Romeo Alfasud Cloverleaf

There are a few cars on there that should'nt be and vice versa!

Edited 6 February, 201016 yr by vRSNext