Hi folks, I'm on the move to purchase a Yeti for my wife as she preferred it to the Scout that I had suggested. However the Yeti spec is actually more than adequate for her requirements and I look forward to getting it.

I've been to a couple of skoda dealers, made a few phone calls to other more distant franchised dealers, searched the web closely and finally came up with Carquake ( Cars and Finance Ltd) as the best offer by far albeit it will be a preregistered vehicle and I won't get the log book for 6 months but so was the VW Golf tdi I bought 9 years ago and still have.

The car (10-12 weeks delivery) will be new and on a 10 plate, 2.0 TDI CR (140) SE 4x4 manual, metalic paint, spare wheel, tyre pressure monitor, rubber mats, off road button, Westfalia tow bar with twin electrics all coming in at £18,580. Including first registration fee. Full UK warranty and UK assist package and 12months road tax.

I feel confident that all should be kosher with the above company as I have researched it thoroughly, has anyone had dealings with the company and are there any pitfalls I may have missed. Please let me know of any of your experiences.

Many thanks, Pityaka

Edited 7 February, 201016 yr by Pityaka

Hi folks, I'm on the move to purchase a Yeti for my wife as she preferred it to the Scout that I had suggested. However the Yeti spec is actually more than adequate for her requirements and I look forward to getting it.

I've been to a couple of skoda dealers, made a few phone calls to other more distant franchised dealers, searched the web closely and finally came up with Carquake ( Cars and Finance Ltd) as the best offer by far albeit it will be a preregistered vehicle and I won't get the log book for 6 months but so was the VW Golf tdi I bought 9 years ago and still have.

The car (10-12 weeks delivery) will be new and on a 10 plate, 2.0 TDI CR (140) SE 4x4 manual, metalic paint, spare wheel, tyre pressure monitor, rubber mats, off road button, Westfalia tow bar with twin electrics all coming in at £18,580. Including first registration fee. Full UK warranty and UK assist package and 12months road tax.

I feel confident that all should be kosher with the above company as I have researched it thoroughly, has anyone had dealings with the company and are there any pitfalls I may have missed. Please let me know of any of your experiences.

Many thanks, Pityaka

"I won't get the log book for 6 months "

Questionable legality of car ownership with that statement. When you take out car insurance you should be in possesion of the log book. I would be wary of such a practice.

Hi folks, I'm on the move to purchase a Yeti for my wife as she preferred it to the Scout that I had suggested. However the Yeti spec is actually more than adequate for her requirements and I look forward to getting it.

I've been to a couple of skoda dealers, made a few phone calls to other more distant franchised dealers, searched the web closely and finally came up with Carquake ( Cars and Finance Ltd) as the best offer by far albeit it will be a preregistered vehicle and I won't get the log book for 6 months but so was the VW Golf tdi I bought 9 years ago and still have.

The car (10-12 weeks delivery) will be new and on a 10 plate, 2.0 TDI CR (140) SE 4x4 manual, metalic paint, spare wheel, tyre pressure monitor, rubber mats, off road button, Westfalia tow bar with twin electrics all coming in at £18,580. Including first registration fee. Full UK warranty and UK assist package and 12months road tax.

I feel confident that all should be kosher with the above company as I have researched it thoroughly, has anyone had dealings with the company and are there any pitfalls I may have missed. Please let me know of any of your experiences.

Many thanks, Pityaka

Pre-reg, but 10-12 weeks delivery? I have to say I've never heard of that. I bought pre-reg from a Skoda dealer, and didn't pick up the log book for 3 months, but it was an established local dealership, and the car was all there to see. It seems a bit weird. Or am I being paranoid?

Stuart

Could it be being bought as a demonstrator and sold straight on, hence the delay in getting the V5 (or whatever it's called)?

Perhaps they are getting it from Broadspeed and adding their slice.

Hi Pityaka and welcome to the Yeti Forum. Their are plenty of knowledgeable people on this board who will only be to willing to answer most questions regarding the Yeti.

Have you tried Broadspeed for a quote for a brand new car. Currently they are supposed to be the cheapest by far about £1000 over their next nearest competitor?

Hmm 12 weeks for a pre-reg sounds odd. Maybe they are sourcing it from elsewhere and adding their slice on top?

I'd try DtD for a quoate, they were cheaper than Broadspeed for me (by £600)

Hmm 12 weeks for a pre-reg sounds odd. Maybe they are sourcing it from elsewhere and adding their slice on top?

I'd try DtD for a quoate, they were cheaper than Broadspeed for me (by £600)

When where DtD cheaper than Broadspeed because a very short while ago Broadspeed were cheaper than DtD by £1000 when they quoted me for a Yeti 170 CR with a few bits and bobs.

Of course the whole situation will be fluid but we need to keep abreast with the current league table!

Hi folks, I'm on the move to purchase a Yeti for my wife as she preferred it to the Scout that I had suggested. However the Yeti spec is actually more than adequate for her requirements and I look forward to getting it.

I've been to a couple of skoda dealers, made a few phone calls to other more distant franchised dealers, searched the web closely and finally came up with Carquake ( Cars and Finance Ltd) as the best offer by far albeit it will be a preregistered vehicle and I won't get the log book for 6 months but so was the VW Golf tdi I bought 9 years ago and still have.

The car (10-12 weeks delivery) will be new and on a 10 plate, 2.0 TDI CR (140) SE 4x4 manual, metalic paint, spare wheel, tyre pressure monitor, rubber mats, off road button, Westfalia tow bar with twin electrics all coming in at £18,580. Including first registration fee. Full UK warranty and UK assist package and 12months road tax.

I feel confident that all should be kosher with the above company as I have researched it thoroughly, has anyone had dealings with the company and are there any pitfalls I may have missed. Please let me know of any of your experiences.

Many thanks, Pityaka

I used carquake as a barganing tool with my local dealer, however instinct told me something didn't seem 100% with them, the wait for the V5 seems excessive as others have noted and the finance is with themselves NB. My local dealer virtually matched what they were offering anyway. Snowmonster's V5 was there on delivery with the car AND it wasn't a pre-reg. My only pre-reg experience was with a Citroen Xantia and all the paperwork was there on delivery/collection of the car.

to be honest i would rather deal with a reputable dealer and pay the extra, tha? what £2-3k your saving?

ok it might be more than that - but even so i would sleep safer in knowledge that i won't be ripped of by some 'here today, gone tomorrow' firm. I know from experience that if you have an issue with something it is better to deal with a face, than some faceless automatic call handling system.

Edited 7 February, 201016 yr by Krooked

"I won't get the log book for 6 months "

Questionable legality of car ownership with that statement. When you take out car insurance you should be in possesion of the log book. I would be wary of such a practice.

This is not unusual; I bought a discounted Seat Leon Cupra a few years ago. It was effectively bought by the broker direct from the corporate part of a main Seat dealer and sold on to me straight away. It was registered with the broker as the first owner and I had no choice in the registration. I also had to wait 6 months for the log book. It’s because the broker buys a lot of cars at a discount price which is the price that a hire company would get them. Hire companies keep cars for 6 months before selling them on. So part of that cut price deal is that the broker has to hold on to the log book for inspection purposes till 6 months has passed. I had no problem with this as it was an excellent discount and the car was delivered straight to me on a trailer in unused & perfect condition. On the log book I was the second owner even though the broker only had it for one day. You might find the broker is reluctant to explain quite how it all works. It sound weird I know but there is nothing to worry about in this transaction, you are the owner on the log book even if you don’t have the log book for the first 6 months. Hope this helps

Cheers, Dave

What happens then if the broker goes to the wall bust? The receiver will try to regain as much assets as they possibly can. I would not like to be in that position of uncertainty, particularly in today's financial climate. If they keep the log they might legally retain ownership. One could always try to get the log via DVLA saying it has been mislaid but it still might not come because the company may not have transferred ownership which would be illegal and make them liable to prosecution because it is an offence not to transfer details of ownership. What would happen if the supposed owner of this new vehicle committed a serious motoring offence.

I am sure that this practice might happened before and may have worked out OK but it looks very strange and dodgy to me. Their are plenty of good more strait forward brokerage deals around. I would not touch that one with a barge pole.

What happens then if the broker goes to the wall bust? The receiver will try to regain as much assets as they possibly can. I would not like to be in that position of uncertainty, particularly in today's financial climate. If they keep the log they might legally retain ownership. One could always try to get the log via DVLA saying it has been mislaid but it still might not come because the company may not have transferred ownership which would be illegal and make them liable to prosecution because it is an offence not to transfer details of ownership. What would happen if the supposed owner of this new vehicle committed a serious motoring offence.

I am sure that this practice might happened before and may have worked out OK but it looks very strange and dodgy to me. Their are plenty of good more strait forward brokerage deals around. I would not touch that one with a barge pole.

The situation with the carquake purchase appears safe from my standpoint as I would pay the deposit with a credit card which is protected. I would then on the day of pick up and after inspection pay the remainder with a bank draft. I will receive a bill of sale for the vehicle from the vendor, the PDI, a V5 photocopy and all other skoda docs. With regards to the company going into receivership I didn't think of that one, but with a bill of sale for the vehicle and remembering that a name on a V5 doc does not indicate ownership in law I feel comfortable thus far down the line but I will try and contact the DVLA for their view. My insurance company is fine with the vehicle as long as it is not one of the dodgy imports and entirely to the UK spec.

As long as you have been thorough and are confidant.

We were also considering buying from Carquake, but I found this on the Honest John website:

My link

INTERNET SALES AND BROKERS: Buying a new car on-line. What questions should you ask?

Will you be the first registered keeper?

If not and the car is first registered to a fleet, ask how long before it can be registered to you? Also make sure you can get insurance for a car of which you are not initially the ‘registered keeper’. If the car is to be registered to a fleet first, then it may be better to construct the purchase contract so you make a nominal monthly payments at 0% APR for 6 months then a balloon payment to assume ownership of the car, the total amounting to the same sale price you would have paid anyway. You will then need to tell your insurer that you are leasing the car for the first 6 months so are not the registered keeper, and will also need to inform them when you become the registered keeper. Make sure VAT is correctly paid. Also be aware that if you are not the registered keeper, then the registered keeper might fraudulently take out finance on the car, even though you have paid for it. If he does this before you pay for it then he has defrauded you and you lose the car. If he does this after you pay for it, then he has defrauded the finance company and you keep the car. And on top of that, if the car commits any camera offences, the NIP goes to the registered keeper first, so may be delayed getting to you creating a penalty, as would be the case with a London Congestion Tax penalty.

It was more than enough to put me and SWMBO off, we ordered our CR140 Elegance in Aqua Blue (due early April?) from a dealer. Wouldn't move much on list price, but generous p/x to close the gap with DtD and Broadspeed.

We were also considering buying from Carquake, but I found this on the Honest John website:

My link

INTERNET SALES AND BROKERS: Buying a new car on-line. What questions should you ask?

Will you be the first registered keeper?

If not and the car is first registered to a fleet, ask how long before it can be registered to you? Also make sure you can get insurance for a car of which you are not initially the ‘registered keeper’. If the car is to be registered to a fleet first, then it may be better to construct the purchase contract so you make a nominal monthly payments at 0% APR for 6 months then a balloon payment to assume ownership of the car, the total amounting to the same sale price you would have paid anyway. You will then need to tell your insurer that you are leasing the car for the first 6 months so are not the registered keeper, and will also need to inform them when you become the registered keeper. Make sure VAT is correctly paid. Also be aware that if you are not the registered keeper, then the registered keeper might fraudulently take out finance on the car, even though you have paid for it. If he does this before you pay for it then he has defrauded you and you lose the car. If he does this after you pay for it, then he has defrauded the finance company and you keep the car. And on top of that, if the car commits any camera offences, the NIP goes to the registered keeper first, so may be delayed getting to you creating a penalty, as would be the case with a London Congestion Tax penalty.

It was more than enough to put me and SWMBO off, we ordered our CR140 Elegance in Aqua Blue (due early April?) from a dealer. Wouldn't move much on list price, but generous p/x to close the gap with DtD and Broadspeed.

Thanks for the well made points and thanks also to Anthony 1 for his previous comments. I've just been onto the DVLA and they say that although not an illegal practice they advise against going down this route with the V5 document registered in another name for a couple of the same points you make. Of course a bill of sale and receipt at the point of pick up as well as an official contract document at the outset is paramount. With regards to fraudulent duplicate financing isn't that another bogeyman? The Which magazine also has a view on preregistered vehicles and they say it is illegal to go down this route with the V5 document but they don't quote

the specific law that is contravened. Just think, I had the Scout deal sorted with Winner at Cinderford then the SWMBO saw the Yeti what an Abominable mistake it was to take her with me!!! I will soldier on however and post the results. Cheers

I wish you every success in your venture and hope that it all goes well for you and to plan. It is one thing to go down this road totally blind but as you now have sought advice, it is up to you to decide on the balance of probabilities. One more step that I can think of is to seek advice From Citizens Advice Bureau, CAB, this as you know will be free, they can also send you to a solicitor for specialist free advice for so many minutes.

If you have not taken the ultimate and unretractable step, ask you self the questions, what would I do if or how would I cope if the unlikelihood that the various the scenarios took place. If you find that you could manage or deal with each case then fine progress with caution. Protect your self as much as you can by paying by Credit Card for as much as you can. Take care, please look at other offers from DtD and Broadspeed, I would be much happier if you took that direction, I would not need to be concerned on you behalf then.

Good luck

I wish you every success in your venture and hope that it all goes well for you and to plan. It is one thing to go down this road totally blind but as you now have sought advice, it is up to you to decide on the balance of probabilities. One more step that I can think of is to seek advice From Citizens Advice Bureau, CAB, this as you know will be free, they can also send you to a solicitor for specialist free advice for so many minutes.

If you have not taken the ultimate and unretractable step, ask you self the questions, what would I do if or how would I cope if the unlikelihood that the various the scenarios took place. If you find that you could manage or deal with each case then fine progress with caution. Protect your self as much as you can by paying by Credit Card for as much as you can. Take care, please look at other offers from DtD and Broadspeed, I would be much happier if you took that direction, I would not need to be concerned on you behalf then.

Good luck

I have not taken the ultimate step and thank you sincerely for your efforts to guide my actions, I am still looking at other offers including badgering my local dealers.

For those who may be interested in chasing a bargain and also minimising risk I have figures of £18.59k, £19.38k, £20.05k, £20.15k and £21.64 for the above spec Yeti. I am not mean I just don't like to pay over the odds, I am retired and have the time to hunt around. So notwithstanding the apparent risk of my first option I really am still looking and appreciate all comments received. Many thanks.

I have not taken the ultimate step and thank you sincerely for your efforts to guide my actions, I am still looking at other offers including badgering my local dealers.

For those who may be interested in chasing a bargain and also minimising risk I have figures of £18.59k, £19.38k, £20.05k, £20.15k and £21.64 for the above spec Yeti. I am not mean I just don't like to pay over the odds, I am retired and have the time to hunt around. So notwithstanding the apparent risk of my first option I really am still looking and appreciate all comments received. Many thanks.

Hi Pityaka,

Its good to hunt around, adds to the fun especially if you have the time.

I ordered my Yeti through DtD, they were cheapest as they discount the extras wich others don't.

I recall when I bought my Seat I paid the deposit to the broker by credit card and the balance was paid by BACsS transfer direct to the SEAT dealer just before delivery and the dealerr called me to confirm all was OK.

This was for a car that was in the UK though so took under two weeks I'm not sure I would go down that route if I had to wait 12 weeks, might get a bit nervous about that, especially about going bust as Antony1 says.

Cheers, Dave

I used this website - http://www.skodastore.com

They put me directly in touch with the dealer and I paid the same as the price currently on Broadspeed. No drama or hassles and the full dealer service.

Edited 8 February, 201016 yr by HKPhooey

Hi Pityaka,

Its good to hunt around, adds to the fun especially if you have the time.

I ordered my Yeti through DtD, they were cheapest as they discount the extras wich others don't.

I recall when I bought my Seat I paid the deposit to the broker by credit card and the balance was paid by BACsS transfer direct to the SEAT dealer just before delivery and the dealerr called me to confirm all was OK.

This was for a car that was in the UK though so took under two weeks I'm not sure I would go down that route if I had to wait 12 weeks, might get a bit nervous about that, especially about going bust as Antony1 says.

Cheers, Dave

Thanks Dave, an update so far! I have cleared the delay in receiving the V5 with my insurers not a problem but as a minimum they expect a bill of sale to prove my ownership, the supplier now quotes no longer than 10 weeks and probably about 8 weeks. If I go this route I will pay by bankers draft or debit card after seeing the vehicle. Tried DtD, Skoda store and Broadspeed today and am interested in the DtD and Skoda Store quotes so will investigate further. Can you tell me if your DtD offer was on an unregistered vehicle? I will now wait until I have the vehicle before I sort out the towbar and electrics as I have the Defender as a tug for this summer.

Many thanks for the info I appreciate all the responses. Pityaka.

Edited 9 February, 201016 yr by Pityaka

It may well be worth while having the Yeti pre wired for the towing equipment at the factory as it saves a lot of hassle latter.

Thanks Dave, an update so far! I have cleared the delay in receiving the V5 with my insurers not a problem but as a minimum they expect a bill of sale to prove my ownership, the supplier now quotes no longer than 10 weeks and probably about 8 weeks. If I go this route I will pay by bankers draft or debit card after seeing the vehicle. Tried DtD, Skoda store and Broadspeed today and am interested in the DtD and Skoda Store quotes so will investigate further. Can you tell me if your DtD offer was on an unregistered vehicle? I will now wait until I have the vehicle before I sort out the towbar and electrics as I have the Defender as a tug for this summer.

Many thanks for the info I appreciate all the responses. Pityaka.

My DtD was for a unregistered vehicle as I intend to put a personal reg on it.

DtD just introduce you to a dealer at the price they quote then its just a normal dealer/customer relationship. Dont forget that DtD discount any extras as well as the car.

As for the tow bar, well I am at a loss to understand why Skoda charge £150 for the preparation beacuse if you get the dealer to fit the tow bar the difference between factory preparation and no preparation is only £10.

I will get a tow bat fitted once I have the car, there are Skoda dealers who will fit one at much more reasonable prices.

Cheers, Dave

Well I have asked you'all for your views on my carquake purchase venture and received them, many thanks for that, I've done the research on prices with Carquake, Broadspeed, DtD and Skoda Store etc,etc and still haven't got me a Yeti on its way. However I can now say that I had a feeling of unease with the carquake deal it just didn't make me feel secure at the finish.

It appears after completing the webpage Carquake formalities none of the people I've spoken to or emailed are actually franchised car dealers, I think they're just finance houses who deal through fleet sales companies. I reckon I "bottled it" when I got an order form through to sign from a company in Mansfield and had to send it back to a different crowd in Chesterfield both finance houses.

The DVLA advised me against allowing the suppliers retention of the V5, the OFT certainly don't like the V5 retention practice on preregistered new vehicles, dealer franchise associations know it happens but frown on it, my insurance company said they would prefer a V5 but a bill of sale would also do, and of course SWMBO read the forum posts and gave me the famous "you wouldn't dare look". So I am back to looking for a Yeti, also looking for a guide to take me to the mountainous lands where they abide!!! I will post again when I've got one and need a tow bar and electrics. All the best and thanks.

Edited 10 February, 201016 yr by Pityaka

I can not see many outlets being substantially cheaper if at all then the ones that you have already looked at. Might it be that they are still a bit high priced for you. If you wait a little while their are bund to be recent good used examples appearing in places like Autotrader, E Bay etc. Though often prices of recent used cars can be still more expensive than what the Brokers can get you a brand new one for. Possibly Brokers prices might still drop a little, it is a competitive market. No one Broker keeps the crown for the cheapest for too long.

I see that you have a LR 90 Heritage.

I can not see many outlets being substantially cheaper if at all then the ones that you have already looked at. Might it be that they are still a bit high priced for you. If you wait a little while their are bund to be recent good used examples appearing in places like Autotrader, E Bay etc. Though often prices of recent used cars can be still more expensive than what the Brokers can get you a brand new one for. Possibly Brokers prices might still drop a little, it is a competitive market. No one Broker keeps the crown for the cheapest for too long.

I see that you have a LR 90 Heritage.

I reckon that if I try and get a few hundred quid off then it softens the depreciation slap although I'm hoping to keep the vehicle for a good few years, historically we manage to keep our cars for 8-10 years and get good service from them. I will get a new Yeti and I hope to sort it this week all things being equal so I will continue to search the best deal sites. Yes I have LR Defender 90 Heritage on a V plate and it serves us well, it doesn't have the character of the old LRs but again it was a purchase my wife made based on how it looks in bronze green and white. Pityaka