do me a favour......kill it for me-slowly

I'm posting from the lap top 'cos some $$$$ managed to hack into my pc during the night!

It was protected ( I thought) but someone managed to get in through a "backdoor" attack (backdoor.VB.nn) they disabled ALL the antivirus/firewall (norton) and reading the decscription on the symantec website it sounds like they had many possibilities including access to many files including passwords etc......paypal & amazon accounts :eek:

It has taken much of the day to get it up and running but it looks increasingly like tomorrow evening I may have to format and reload everything as I am unable to get into windows supervisor to change account settings....unless someone knows a way?....help

I have had to change All passwords on everything and as far as I know i have not lost anything but as an unknown "person" may have the passwords and access details I could not take the chance

Be warned! I like many thought I was protected but still dont really how they did it.The most likely route in was through downloaded software that didn't work and was deleted weeks ago!The last virus update/scan was done last week.

the world would be better off with out some people

What firewall are you behind or are you running on the PC?

What firewall are you behind or are you running on the PC?

norton internet security

I had mine hacked (pc) 2 years ago, couldn't restart it, so just to make sure I fitted a new hard drive and started again, but I know what it's like....electronic burglary..... if anyone catches one of the sods can I come and watch.

And a fellow caravanner too

well the next job is to back up some data onto DVD - scanning it with both up to date norton and kaspersky,then try to repair the damage

oh happy days

I thought firewall soft/hardware was supposed to stop this???

Well, I hide behind 2 hardware firewalls, have Zone Alarm Pro running on the PC, Norton AV, and 3 different anti-trojan and anti-spyware progs.

Am I paranoid?

And I thought I had problems with my E.S.!

Sorry to ask what to you lot will be a stupid question, but how do you know when you've been hacked?

"I thought firewall soft/hardware was supposed to stop this???"

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so did I!

it was on and with live update running

apparently the one that got in opens a port then emails the hacker to tell them the ip address nd port number thats open so they can then access the pc.

From the reports It would appear that this happened during the night and when I looked in in thre morning and realised something was wrong I disconnected immediately and hopefully stopped the attack before too much damage was done.

I have found an additional supervisor account that was not there before ,some passwords were changed and the security was disabled.When the security was disabled the password was changed so I could not access it to restart it!.

in the end I had to install Kaspersky,use it to remove the virus then manually remove the norton security before reinstalling and updating it

It comes as a shock to find you cannot use your own pc and it tells you you don't have the authority!

Am I paranoid?

Yes

But rightly so I suspect!

I'm currnetly hacking at firewalls as getting paid for it

Have to admit I had a load of trouble with Norton firewall on the old home PC.

At the time I got the new PC, work switched from Norton to McAfee as they had experienced a few 'issues' so I did the same and have not had any problems since.

Wifes school had problems with a virus on their network despite having Norton.

Well' date=' I hide behind 2 hardware firewalls, have Zone Alarm Pro running on the PC, Norton AV, and 3 different anti-trojan and anti-spyware progs.

Am I paranoid?[/quote']

not paranoid.........just more sensible than me!!

I thought you could only run 1 firewall at a time ( according to xp) so from your comments I assume its not a problem.I notice that routers have hardware firewalls would this be a good option?

And I thought I had problems with my E.S.!

Sorry to ask what to you lot will be a stupid question' date=' but how do you know when you've been hacked?[/quote']

for me it was when things changed that I didn't do ...like when a password was changed and the security icon on the screen showed "disabled"

you then get that horrible sinking feeling

I don't run any firewall or antivirus software, but I keep Windows patched.

Every couple of months I run the Trend online checker which has not found anything yet, and I've used the Internet heavily since 1996. Good ol' CompuServe.

I don't run any firewall or antivirus software' date=' but I keep Windows patched.

Every couple of months I run the Trend online checker which has not found anything yet, and I've used the Internet heavily since 1996. Good ol' CompuServe. [/quote']

oh yes,i forgot...windows was on automatic update as well!!

Norton Internet security is not really a firewall but a program control. You dont have much control over anything other than what it thinks is bad, and now a days norton is going down hill. for AV use kasperski because they supply the industry with an AV engine and for firewall use something which can block individual ip's ports etc etc (sygate - ok its still essentially a program control but is more of a firewall than norton Iss).

Theres a few small yet annoying measures you can take:

Did your administrator account have a password? Have you turned all the remote access services off? Have you disabled the remote administrator shares? Have you turned off the guest account? Do you still use IE?

Sorry 20 questions lol.

You've had some problems with that thing over the last few months Marc.

Tell you if it happened to me ...if it hasn't already....I mean, I really wouldn't know...I'd just take the whole shed out into the garden, stick a sledehammer through it, and incinerate the remains.

As much as I admire the attributes of all this I.T. stuff, it really does seem a bloody nightmare of potential disasters.

I'm still not convinced about the safety of paying bills and doing on line banking...so I don't!

Not so bad if you know what to look out for and how to deal with problems, but ME!!!?

Don't make me I wouldn't recognise a hacker if he crawled out of this black box in front of me and shook my hand!

Norton Internet security is not really a firewall but a program control. You dont have much control over anything other than what it thinks is bad' date=' and now a days norton is going down hill. for AV use kasperski because they supply the industry with an AV engine and for firewall use something which can block individual ip's ports etc etc (sygate - ok its still essentially a program control but is more of a firewall than norton Iss).

Theres a few small yet annoying measures you can take:

Did your administrator account have a password? Have you turned all the remote access services off? Have you disabled the remote administrator shares? Have you turned off the guest account? Do you still use IE?

Sorry 20 questions lol.[/quote']

looks like kaspersky is the way to go....ironically i got a trial copy this week and its scanning the pc as I type

For firewall....will look at sygate is iyt downloadable? i would like to get one sorted today if poss.Or can anuone suggest alternatives they know work?

Administrator was password protected :eek:

R A S will look at both when scan stops (unless I have to format)

guest account - both that and the administrator is disabled - the only one now is mine which is (and was ) set up as admin

thanks for the help

marc

The real problem is that "Windows security" is an oxymoron. Several years ago, I decided that the best way to avoid viruses and worms was to ditch Windows. Never had a problem since...

You've had some problems with that thing over the last few months Marc.

Tell you if it happened to me ...if it hasn't already....I mean' date=' I really wouldn't know...I'd just take the whole shed out into the garden, stick a sledehammer through it, and incinerate the remains.

As much as I admire the attributes of all this I.T. stuff, it really does seem a bloody nightmare of potential disasters.

I'm still not convinced about the safety of paying bills and doing on line banking...so I don't!

Not so bad if you know what to look out for and how to deal with problems, but ME!!!?

Don't make me I wouldn't recognise a hacker if he crawled out of this black box in front of me and shook my hand![/quote']

at midnight I could have quite happily thrown it out the window....but the Octy is underneath so not a good idea

At one time I used to have online access to the bank account but at the time had problems with it so stopped - glad I did now!

The single biggest financial worry was the paypal account as with access to my passwords etc they could have transerred money to their own account and although it would be traceable......

I've always rated tiny personal firewall v2.x It's old and out of date now, but has a tiny footprint, and gives you complete control of which application access which IPs, ports, etc.

There's no "translator" that thinks for you and says "Internet explorer is trying to access a website". All it says is IEXPLORE.EXE is attempting an outgoing TCP connection to IP xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx on port 80.

Nerdy? Oh yes, but at least I know what it's doing

Edit: I used to run kaspersky AV and liked it. Decided to go for a change when subscription came up for renewal and opted for AVG which seems to do the job.

I've always thought you're better off going for a more elusive AV/firewall product. The fact they're not as common probably means there aren't as many hackers trying to find a way around it

A bit like having a debadged octy rs. Doesn't have a race me / hack me label to it

well i've finally admitted defeat and formatted

saved as much as possible but was unable to regain total control of it

so as I type its reloading.

joy oh joy

I now don't trust Norton, I was running a corporate edition of Norton anti-virus but my PC was still acting a bit strange, so after a suggestion from a friend I downloaded the free AVG anti-virus and after running their checker found two viruses, one was found in my system files, so Norton was running with these viruses and didn't detect them.

I now don't trust Norton, I was running a corporate edition of Norton anti-virus but my PC was still acting a bit strange, so after a suggestion from a friend I downloaded the free AVG anti-virus and after running their checker found two viruses, one was found in my system files, so Norton was running with these viruses and didn't detect them.

I've just downloaded this AVG anti-virus and it found 70 'dangerous and critical' items, but wouldn't let me delete them until I'd registered and paid $29! Now what do I do? Pay? Thought it was free!

This thing keeps jamming while I'm typing!

I've just downloaded this AVG anti-virus and it found 70 'dangerous and critical' items' date=' but wouldn't let me delete them until I'd registered and paid $29! Now what do I do? Pay? Thought it was free!

This thing keeps jamming while I'm typing! [/quote']

I seriously think in your case Col it may be worth re fromatting and then loading AV/Firewall software before you connect to the net.