Have recently taken delivery of my new Octavia SE Estate 1.9PD TDI . I ordered a "full size" spare wheel with car from options list at £55 . This spare wheel is described in brochure as "full size" spare.

My car model SE as standard is fitted with 20/60/R15V tyres on 6.5J " x 15" Pyxis" alloys . The spare steel wheel supplied is 6.0J x 15" x ET 48 offset fitted with tyre 195/65/15T .

The brochure has the standard disclaimer regarding the information in it , is not binding.

Clearly the tyre and wheel are smaller than those fitted to the car ( although the 195/65 tyres are a fraction larger in diameter than the 205/60 section tyres fitted).

Do I have a case for rejecting the smaller spare wheel as it is obviously not "full size" and insisting on a proper full size wheel ?

I think what they mean is it is not a "skinny" ie a 135 . My car has 225 18 on and spare is 16 ,205 but much higher profile. They can be driven at normal speeds <skinny's are restricted to 50 mph > A spare wheel to my mind is just that, do you want to drive on one steel wheel permanently ? I was just glad it wasn't a SKINNY, I wonder if you meant 200 /60 /r15 as well my bicycle tyres are 20?! The only car i have had with identical alloys was my Lexus . But that is £10000 more

I see your point, but some manufacturers have been delivering cars with a slightly different (usually narrower and higher profile) spare for years. Just be pleased it's not a castor or a can of gloop!

My new Octavia SE is the same (and I requested a full size spare)

205/60/R15 alloys with a 195/65/R15 steel spare.

I consider that fine - those sizes are compatible with each other. It is slightly cheeky though, but I guess its just a cost thing.

My new Octavia SE is the same (and I requested a full size spare)

205/60/R15 alloys with a 195/65/R15 steel spare.

I consider that fine - those sizes are compatible with each other. It is slightly cheeky though, but I guess its just a cost thing.

Nah, nothing suspicious about it. Anything wider than a 195 won't fit in the wheel well and the cover can't lie flat.

VRSs have 225 wheels but still have a 195 spare.

Nah, nothing suspicious about it. Anything wider than a 195 won't fit in the wheel well and the cover can't lie flat.

VRSs have 225 wheels but still have a 195 spare.

Fair enough. I'm still getting over the shock of having to actually buy a spare wheel for my new car to be honest, rather than rely on the standard puncture repair kit.

Have recently taken delivery of my new Octavia SE Estate 1.9PD TDI . I ordered a "full size" spare wheel with car from options list at £55 . This spare wheel is described in brochure as "full size" spare.

My car model SE as standard is fitted with 20/60/R15V tyres on 6.5J " x 15" Pyxis" alloys . The spare steel wheel supplied is 6.0J x 15" x ET 48 offset fitted with tyre 195/65/15T .

The brochure has the standard disclaimer regarding the information in it , is not binding.

Clearly the tyre and wheel are smaller than those fitted to the car ( although the 195/65 tyres are a fraction larger in diameter than the 205/60 section tyres fitted).

Do I have a case for rejecting the smaller spare wheel as it is obviously not "full size" and insisting on a proper full size wheel ?

What you have is a full size spare wheel, which has the same rolling diameter +/- spec as the road wheels on the vehicle. When you fit this to the car, you should not have a speed limitation, as you would with a spacesaver.

I have the same on my SEAT - road wheels are 17" alloys with 225/45 tyres and the "full sixe" spare is a 16" with equivalent rolling diameter.

So in summary - I would say that you do indeed have a full size spare wheel.

John.

Nah, nothing suspicious about it. Anything wider than a 195 won't fit in the wheel well and the cover can't lie flat.

VRSs have 225 wheels but still have a 195 spare.

My vRS came with a 205/55 R16 91V spare on a 6.5J wide steel wheel, not a 195. So if they can get a 205 in mine why didn't they put a 205 in the SE spec?? Cost cutting at a guess.

Edited 22 March, 201016 yr by peter0976

Nah, nothing suspicious about it. Anything wider than a 195 won't fit in the wheel well and the cover can't lie flat.

VRSs have 225 wheels but still have a 195 spare.

I'm sure that a 205 section would fit in the well but the polystyrene tool kit holder may need trimming down a bit to suit.

The supplied spare is still limited to 50mph ( yellow sticker on outside of wheel) but not the normal 120mile duration limit of a skinny spare.

It's a shame I couldn't get a 6.5J wheel & 205 section tyre that would obviosly fit in the well ( just ! ). Then I wouldn't have to worry about the 50mph limit.

I'm much happier with this spare than no spare with the 12V pump & puncture aerosol.

Incidentally I noticed that the std blue VAG 12V inflation pump is just the right size to fit in the boot raiser insert spacers in my Golf . Enquired about pump price - was told £88 ! ( told them I would think about it - for about 3 milisecs)

Edited 22 March, 201016 yr by vwcabriolet1971

Have recently taken delivery of my new Octavia SE Estate 1.9PD TDI . I ordered a "full size" spare wheel with car from options list at £55 . This spare wheel is described in brochure as "full size" spare.

My car model SE as standard is fitted with 20/60/R15V tyres on 6.5J " x 15" Pyxis" alloys . The spare steel wheel supplied is 6.0J x 15" x ET 48 offset fitted with tyre 195/65/15T .

The brochure has the standard disclaimer regarding the information in it , is not binding.

Clearly the tyre and wheel are smaller than those fitted to the car ( although the 195/65 tyres are a fraction larger in diameter than the 205/60 section tyres fitted).

Do I have a case for rejecting the smaller spare wheel as it is obviously not "full size" and insisting on a proper full size wheel ?

My Scout has 17" wheels.

It has a full size spare wheel.

The spare wheel is 16"!

Apparently this is OK according to both the dealer and Skoda UK.

None of this is Skoda's fault.

They cannot offer a spare wheel as standard due to EU regulations

What those regulations are is a mystery to me...Emissions?...

Something to do with Saving the planet!!!

Bloody idiots

I'm sure that a 205 section would fit in the well but the polystyrene tool kit holder may need trimming down a bit to suit.

The supplied spare is still limited to 50mph ( yellow sticker on outside of wheel) but not the normal 120mile duration limit of a skinny spare.

It's a shame I couldn't get a 6.5J wheel & 205 section tyre that would obviosly fit in the well ( just ! ). Then I wouldn't have to worry about the 50mph limit.

I'm much happier with this spare than no spare with the 12V pump & puncture aerosol.

Incidentally I noticed that the std blue VAG 12V inflation pump is just the right size to fit in the boot raiser insert spacers in my Golf . Enquired about pump price - was told £88 ! ( told them I would think about it - for about 3 milisecs)

Unless they changed the floor pan for the FL, then that's not the case.

The Octy came with an alloy spare 15" and 16" (205/55/R16) or for those with 17" wheels a 205/55/R16 steel space.

The 205/55/R16 fits in just fine, including the tool holder and the floot flat over it.

The 17" wheels however won't fit due to the 225 width, even though the rolling radius is the same.

None of this is Skoda's fault.

They cannot offer a spare wheel as standard due to EU regulations

What those regulations are is a mystery to me...Emissions?...

Something to do with Saving the planet!!!

Bloody idiots

Where on earth did you hear that?

It's nothing of the sort and I defy you to show me the no spare wheel law.

How come many other manufacturers still offer them (An obvious one being land rover)

It might be that the EU stipulated Euro 5 and averaged emission levels across a range.

The cheapest way for skoda to do this if it's just 1g here or there is to drop the spare and so save some weight.

More expensive ways would be new maps for the engines and new engines, weigh savings by using plastics and aluminium in place of steel panels etc

Edited 23 March, 201016 yr by cheezemonkhai

£88 for an inflation pump????

Wouldn't be a lot different for a full size steel spare and tyre!

Mike

£88 includes the bend over and take it tax

The tool kit polystyrene for the 15" spare wheel would not need trimming if used with the 16" wheel as it would sit lower down.

I am surprised about Skoda's choice of 205/60/15 tyres /wheel combination instead of the more common 205/55/16 for the Octavia SE.

I hope that tyre prices in the future will not be higher as a result.

It might be that the EU stipulated Euro 5 and averaged emission levels across a range.

The cheapest way for skoda to do this if it's just 1g here or there is to drop the spare and so save some weight.

More expensive ways would be new maps for the engines and new engines, weigh savings by using plastics and aluminium in place of steel panels etc

This may also explain the new policy amoungst car manufactures to charge for a cigarette lighter and an ash tray? :(

Ordered my scout together with a full size spare, only by reading this forum did i find out the spare would be 16" . I have ordered a spare alloy now as we will be touring Scotland towing the caravan in summer.

Mark