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I paid to have ESP added as an extra on my 1.2SE but want to make sure that I actually have it! Is it the little button below my radio that has a picture of a car with a windy track coming away from the wheels?

I believe that is ESP

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Thanks

Blimey, since when have they developed extra sensory perception as a feature!!

I'll get my coat!!

Hi,

you do have ESP :thumbup: otherwise the button would say ASR OFF.

If you open this SUK sales ad and view the internal image on max size you will see the standard ASR button.

My link

Regards,

TP

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Great! Looks like I have ESP then emoticon-0144-nod.gif

Is ESP an upgrade to the standard Sat-Nav. The car now knows where you want to go to without having to program it in?

:giggle:

I have the ASR Off button but it does not does anything when clicked? There is nothing blinking at the dashboard or any kind of feedback whether the ASR is off or on?

Is this normal?

on my se when you turn the ASR off a small car with little wobbly lines lights up just above center in the speedo. it also flashes when one of the front wheels spins showing that it is working to apply the power to the other wheel

wakev

I have the ASR Off button but it does not does anything when clicked? There is nothing blinking at the dashboard or any kind of feedback whether the ASR is off or on?

Is this normal?

Hi,

the warning light (the sliding car symbol) should flash slowly in the instrument cluster if the system is switched off and yhe switch should iluminate. This is also stated in the owners handbook.

Regards,

TP

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on my se when you turn the ASR off a small car with little wobbly lines lights up just above center in the speedo. it also flashes when one of the front wheels spins showing that it is working to apply the power to the other wheel

wakev

Ok...so I'm confused. That's exactly what happens when I push the ESP button...so what's the difference between ASR and ESP?

Hi,

the warning light (the sliding car symbol) should flash slowly in the instrument cluster if the system is switched off and yhe switch should iluminate. This is also stated in the owners handbook.

Regards,

TP

must have hit the add reply button within seconds of each other TP

Ok...so I'm confused. That's exactly what happens when I push the ESP button...so what's the difference between ASR and ESP?

Hi,

ASR is traction control; system tries to reduce wheel spin from the driving wheels when pulling away on slippery surfaces.

ESP is a vehicle stability control; this system endeavours to keep the car under control outside what an average drive might be able to cope with, such as entering a bend to fast of taking evasive action to avoid a hazard at speed.

With modern systems only the ASR can be turned off; until last year then you could also turn off ESP as well as ASR.

Regards,

TP

Heres a film on ESP from Bosch My link

TP

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Hi,

ASR is traction control; system tries to reduce wheel spin from the driving wheels when pulling away on slippery surfaces.

ESP is a vehicle stability control; this system endeavours to keep the car under control outside what an average drive might be able to cope with, such as entering a bend to fast of taking evasive action to avoid a hazard at speed.

With modern systems only the ASR can be turned off; until last year then you could also turn off ESP as well as ASR.

Regards,

TP

So can you turn one OR the other off independantly?

Hi,

both systems are interlinked together (if you have ESP then you also have ASR) the single switch in the Yeti as it has the modern system turns off the ASR only.

You may on occasions need to make the wheels spin to get grip when for example you have snow-chains fitted (not an excuse to start another chain thread please emoticon-0140-rofl.gif), therefore you need to be able to turn ASR off.

Regards,

TP

Ok... my mistake... this is what I got in my monster - see pic below - I guess this is ESP - but it still does nothing when pushed - no lights, nothing - no change in car behavior... emoticon-0104-surprised.gif

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Switching off the ESP does bring a warning on the speedo/tacho dials.

You should not feel any difference unless you push the Yeti to the limit when the ESP will try and balance the excess forces on the car. The idea of electronic driving assistance is to only operate when needed and not affect the normal driving of the car. The only exception is the Off Road button which does affect the acceleration and braking response.

That is why you only hear about these devices when the top/fifth gear drivers are showing off!

I suggest you leave it on and hope you never need it.

Ok... my mistake... this is what I got in my monster - see pic below - I guess this is ESP - but it still does nothing when pushed - no lights, nothing - no change in car behavior... emoticon-0104-surprised.gif

If your not seeing the switch light up or the warning light on the instruments when you press the button (engine running), then you might want to get it checked out by your dealer.

This switch design does indicate you have ESP but pressing it would only disable the ASR traction control. As Terfyn states normally you leave the ASR on.

One question; when you turn on the ignition does the ESP/ASR light (sliding car) on the instruments light briefly with the other warning lights during the start test?

Regards,

TP

The switch that looks like the one that used to turn ESP off, now only disengages ASR

The Yeti can be ordered with two different brake systems, the Conti-Teves MK70 and the Conti-Teves MK60.

The MK70 is used in cars without ESP, and the MK60 is used in cars with ESP.

Features supported by the MK70 system:

-ABS: Anti-lock brakes, not possible to switch off.

-EBV: Electronic brake force distribution between front and rear axle, always on.

-MBA: Mechanical emergency brake assistant, increases the hydraulic pressure if it detects emergency braking. Always on.

-MSR: Motor slip regulation, reduces engine braking if the ECU detects that driven/braked wheels are losing speed/going towards lock due to engine braking. Controlled by engine ECU. Always on.

-ASR: Anti slip regulation, reduces engine power if wheel slip is detected when trying to gain speed. Brake ECU detects wheel slip, engine ECU reduces power without use of brakes. Can be turned off with the "ASR OFF" switch. (TCS) [Page 163 in manual]

-TPM: Tire "pressure" monitor. Detects a defective tire by comparing wheel rpm from ABS sensors. Always on.

The MK60 system has the following features in addition to the ones above:

-ESP: Electronic stability program, uses ABS sensors, pressure sensor in hydraulic unit, steering wheel angle sensor, "yaw"-sensor, acceleration sensor etc to calculate if the vehicle is moving in the direction the driver intended, and uses both engine ECU to reduce power, and brake ECU which applies brakes to individual wheels to help steer the car in the right direction. Always on. It used to be possible to turn ESP off, but not on new (after build week 45 2009) Skoda cars. The switch that looks like the one that used to turn ESP off, now only disengages ASR. Allows the wheels to spin, but no four wheel drifts

-HBA: Hydraulic emergency brake assistant. Does the same as MBA in the MK70 system, but here, everything happens inside the hydraulic unit of the brakes. Always on.

-EDS: Electronic differential lock. The brake ECU applies the brake on a slipping wheel to transfer torque to the other wheel on the same axle. Always on.

-HHC: Hill hold control. Uses hydraulic pressure to activate brakes when starting on a hill. Always on.

-DSR: Dynamic steering response. Uses the electric power steering to help correct a slide by aiding the turning of the steering wheel only the way that it would help canceling the slide. Always on.

-TSA: Trailer stability program. Uses brakes on the car, and can also reduce power to help stabilize a "swinging" trailer. On when using a trailer on cars with factory installed tow hook electrics.

-RBS: Rain brake support. Applies brakes lightly on wet roads from time to time to help dry the friction surfaces. Always on.

On 4x4 Yeti's with the MK60 brake system there is an offroad button as well. This makes the ASR allow more wheel spin before it adjusts the power, the EDS works faster and more violently, the ABS allows the wheels to lock up for longer to help build a vedge in front on the wheels when braking on a loose surface.

The offroad function is active from 0-30km/h (after having pushed the button) when exceeding 30 km/h the offroad mode disengages, and if you get under 30 km/h it is active again. The ABS offroad mode is the only function which is active up to 50 km/h.

Just had chance to try turning the ASR off on my Monster; switch doesn't light up as I thought :doh: (confused with off-road button which does) but the ESP/ASR symbol on the speedo does flash on & off as previously stated.

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Regards,

TP

If your not seeing the switch light up or the warning light on the instruments when you press the button (engine running), then you might want to get it checked out by your dealer.

This switch design does indicate you have ESP but pressing it would only disable the ASR traction control. As Terfyn states normally you leave the ASR on.

One question; when you turn on the ignition does the ESP/ASR light (sliding car) on the instruments light briefly with the other warning lights during the start test?

Regards,

TP

Yes, there is ESP/ASR light on start test, but later when I push the button, nothing happens.

Sounds like a fault with the switch or a loose connection if your not getting the light to flash, would get a Skoda dealer to check it out for you.

Regards,

TP

Just had chance to try turning the ASR off on my Monster; switch doesn't light up as I thought :doh: (confused with off-road button which does) but the ESP/ASR symbol on the speedo does flash on & off as previously stated.

4566648326_974fd13d2b_b.jpg

Regards,

TP

Oh, whebn the pic loaded, I was sooooooloking forward to a little flash program, making the ASP bulb come on and off.

Oh, whebn the pic loaded, I was sooooooloking forward to a little flash program, making the ASP bulb come on and off.

Apologies for the disappointment Agerbundsen, I'm more mechanical. Aspects of computer wizardry are still a dark art, from my prospective anyway :doh:

TP

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