right im now decided on what car im going to go for with my upcoming track tool project.

The criteria was the car had to be around 2kish, have a raft of readily available suspension and tuning options available on the market and be good for big power future turbo upgrades. Also the interior has to either be worn or not very nice so it wouldnt be a crime to strip it all out. it also had be 4wd as ive fallen in love with 4wd cars recently.

Ive test driven loads of cars from clio 172's , impreza's, S3's etc. However weirdly ive not driven the car ive chosen :think:

Ive decided on the 1.8T octavia 4x4. Mostly on the back of all the reviews ive read on here of them such as octymarks "hearse" etc.

So my task for you guys is to let me know what mods you would choose if this were you for each of the following headings taking into account what i want.

Engine

I want to break the 300Hp barrier, but i want to do it safely, i also dont want a laggy turbo, and the engine has to be ale to handle that power for long duration track sessions etc.

Suspension

the interior will be getting ripped out and i would be doing some extreme weight loss to it, so coilovers would be required o get the car balanced but which ones?

Also What about

ARBs,

top mounts for caster or camber

Strut braces front and rear

Steering rack etc

transmission

there car is obviously not going to suffer hugely with traction with the haldex 4wd, but from what i have read that can be upgraded toi give better handling. Also would a diff be required as well, how is the standard clutch/gearbox/flywheel etc also engine mounts

Cheers guys

Edited 5 May, 201016 yr by vRSy

right im now decided on what car im going to go for with my upcoming track tool project.

The criteria was the car had to be around 2kish, have a raft of readily available suspension and tuning options available on the market and be good for big power future turbo upgrades. Also the interior has to either be worn or not very nice so it wouldnt be a crime to strip it all out. it also had be 4wd as ive fallen in love with 4wd cars recently.

Ive test driven loads of cars from clio 172's , impreza's, S3's etc. However weirdly ive not driven the car ive chosen :think:

Ive decided on the 1.8T octavia 4x4. Mostly on the back of all the reviews ive read on here of them such as octymarks "hearse" etc.

So my task for you guys is to let me know what mods you would choose if this were you for each of the following headings taking into account what i want.

Engine

I want to break the 300Hp barrier, but i want to do it safely, i also dont want a laggy turbo, and the engine has to be ale to handle that power for long duration track sessions etc.

Suspension

the interior will be getting ripped out and i would be doing some extreme weight loss to it, so coilovers would be required o get the car balanced but which ones?

Also What about

ARBs,

top mounts for caster or camber

Strut braces front and rear

Steering rack etc

transmission

there car is obviously not going to suffer hugely with traction with the haldex 4wd, but from what i have read that can be upgraded toi give better handling. Also would a diff be required as well, how is the standard clutch/gearbox/flywheel etc also engine mounts

Cheers guys

madness choosing this a s a track car with wanting the above spec imho buy a impreza and get most of what you want in the car standard

you will have to spend a small fortune to make it a reliable track car but the route if money wasnt an issue

haldex controller

lsd diff

uprated clutch

k04 hybrid setup no lag issues ( around the 300bhp mark )

kw suspension

rear arb

poly bush allround

r32 quick rack

strip the *******s out of it

big brakes to cope with track work

baffled sump possibly uprated rods aswell

there is prob loads more but ive got bored lol

test drove an impreza STI and yeah i loved it(the missus hated it though lol) but the problem was hey are quite fragile when tuned and need alot of strenghening and the interiors are to nice to strip out and start driling etc. Also people expect an impreza to be fast, whereas nobody likes to be spanked by a skoda lol.

Engine wise first it just be a downpipe, intercooler, intake and a stage 2 map. any turbo conversion would be a last mod after everything else is finished.

order of work would be the above engine mods, strip out, suspension, transmission then any futher stuff after that

test drove an impreza STI and yeah i loved it(the missus hated it though lol) but the problem was hey are quite fragile when tuned and need alot of strenghening and the interiors are to nice to strip out and start driling etc. Also people expect an impreza to be fast, whereas nobody likes to be spanked by a skoda lol.

Engine wise first it just be a downpipe, intercooler, intake and a stage 2 map. any turbo conversion would be a last mod after everything else is finished.

order of work would be the above engine mods, strip out, suspension, transmission then any futher stuff after that

mate scoobys break know fact and when they do big bucks,ive gone from a 300hp classic to 240 octy and i love the suprises it gives people,the best motor ive owned and would'nt change it in a million years,just wish i know before buying a ctr,luckly now i own a vrs long live skoda. without a doubt the most underated car on the road.FACT.

240bhp phil what you done to it???

sy stage 2 your looking at 225 to 230 the key will be to stop heat soak with it being a track car so might be worth considering the following

wmi

inlet spacers

big fmic

3inch dp

240bhp phil what you done to it???

sy stage 2 your looking at 225 to 230 the key will be to stop heat soak with it being a track car so might be worth considering the following

wmi

inlet spacers

big fmic

3inch dp

maybe over hoping lol,but it pulled 215 with just a remap,since then ive added a cai,forge dv,full decat straight zorst,j valve so can't be to far off that figure,i suprised a 350z that he had ask what i was running lol.

no where near buddy lol

cai intake doesnt add power just noise standard box and performance filter is better forge dv dont add power and decat will add a little if mapped

to get to 230 you would need a stage 2 map + front mount etc etc

not as easy as people think lol

so on rollers on your stage 1 map i think you will still be 215bhp lol

no where near buddy lol

cai intake doesnt add power just noise standard box and performance filter is better forge dv dont add power and decat will add a little if mapped

to get to 230 you would need a stage 2 map + front mount etc etc

not as easy as people think lol

so on rollers on your stage 1 map i think you will still be 215bhp lol

front mount soon and hybrid,still a fantistic car for what it is,seriously thou my vrs will kill the 240 ctr had thou,not the scoob thou due to 4wd launch.

it only gets better buddy get the front mount and stage 2 mapping and then see what you think lol

hybrid is the next level lol

it only gets better buddy get the front mount and stage 2 mapping and then see what you think lol

hybrid is the next level lol

only thing that worries me is traction,are u running lsd,my mate took me out in his sc clio and was amazed at the amount of grip he had out of corners,it seem everytime i put my foot down i waiting for the tyres to hook up.

i had a lsd and sold it lol not really needed unless your tracking it or going for silly power.

also depends on the driver as im a bit scared of corners lol put in the right hands im sure the diff would have been amazing but the way i drive around bends i dont think it was for me lmao

a decent map will make sure most of the power can be put down and learn how to control the right foot helps to lol

i had a lsd and sold it lol not really needed unless your tracking it or going for silly power.

also depends on the driver as im a bit scared of corners lol put in the right hands im sure the diff would have been amazing but the way i drive around bends i dont think it was for me lmao

a decent map will make sure most of the power can be put down and learn how to control the right foot helps to lol

still really think the vrs needs lsd as show it a corner and it panics,the amount of speed lost is unreal,i think i need to think about suspension set up before extra power

well vrsy im in a similar situation to you wanting 330 ish bhp in the same car too , basically what clive said is about right.

wait for jbs or ina/integrated engeeniring ko4 high flow manifold

ko4 hybrid, top spec one apparently good for 360hp

good flowing dp

conrods are a must

as is a baffled sump

mocal oil cooler is a must too

and a decent sized fmic

maybe injectors off the 225hp 1.8t's not sure if they flow enough for 300 ponies

decent map from badger 5

i have kw coilovers thanks to clive, so i would suggest them

roll bars i havent got that far yet

haldex controller would be good too for a 50/50 split

as for brakes im going LCR calipers on 330mm two piece discs, there are other options around though

then in my opinion hard piping with as little joins as you can plamsa ceramic coating on the dp and manifold, WMI, proper anti lag, titanium valve and spring retainers with nitride valves,sem intake mani, helix SMF and upgrade clutch.

theres more but the above should be nice and strong and reliable, as said im going for somthing similar but very strong and used daily.

ps. scoobys are ££££ when they break

edited to make more sense

Edited 6 May, 201016 yr by boomsly

KW V3 coilovers

Rear ARB

Hybrid K04 turbo and equal length mani or hybrid K03S turbo, water meth injection and equal length mani

3in DP, decat etc.

S3 MAF and intake pipework

S3 injectors and 4 bar FPR

Custom map to suit the turbo setup

LCR 4 pot brakes, uprated discs and pads and racing brake fluid

Oil catch can

Fuel swirl pot

Strip out interior and fit roll cage

Bucket seats and harnesses

Spare set of cheap alloys with track tyres fitted

Helmet (musn't forget that :yes: )

If the turbo upgrade is out of your budget at first then just use the K03S at first with a few other bits custom mapped to 220bhp and save up for one of the hybrid setups

I wouldn't bother with the quickrack, they feel good on the TTs but don't really suit the VRS, the steering feels better when its a bit heavier. If you do really want a quickrack I may be persuaded to sell mine.

Uprated Haldex controller used to be about £600 from Jabbasport, not sure if they are still doing them or if there is another supplier

No need to uprate the internals or valves if you're not going over 300bhp

Edited 6 May, 201016 yr by chicken_eyebrow

in the first post he says he wants to break 300hp

valves are not essential unless moving the power band up though

its not all about the BHP. the Skoda Rally cars were limited to 300 but they had 600 torque. if you go for higher torque though you really need to uprate internals.

I cant say how a 4wd model would handle on track, but depending on the circuits you plan on using, i would strongly advise at least thinking about just a regular VRS model. Most tracks in the UK are more suited to FWD cars and although 4wd will provide a better launch out the corner, you loss quite a bit in transmission loss and aditional weight.

I just did a track day on Monday at Lydden Hill and found no problem passing Scoobys coming out of the corners as i carried more speed through the bends. My car has a full interior and only 230-240 bhp (rollers depending) and it was plenty fun. I have a Quaife ATB, Spec clutch and SMF flywheel so these will have helped with getting the power down tho.

I also have the R32 rack and found this alot better than my previous track days where i had the stock rack fitted.

But! All cars and how they drive is very personal so whatever you choose, it wont be perfect out the box so dont be disapointed if it doesnt perform as you hope on the first track day you do

Kind Regards

Garry

Here's a link for the Haldex controller

http://www.ttshop.co.uk/performance.asp?cat=3063&product=600427

haldex blue is a good uprate, bout to fit one to a mates car, you could always get a quaife lsd too.

tt quickrack wont work on a 4x4 or esp enabled car, it causes issues.

for relaible track car, engine upgrade is not a bad idea if looking for over 300bhp.

gt28rs looks like a good 300plus setup, not laggy like true garrett big turbos reliable and rebuildable, with good (equal if poss) manifold,full sports cat and downpipe/exhaust should get a real nice car!

Edited 6 May, 201016 yr by sweedish

Like others have mentioned there are certain parts you will need to upgrade to get the car handling like you want.

I think you do need to decide if the 4x4 route is really what you want as others have mentioned fwd and as you know they can be set up to handle just as well if not better than a 4x4.

As for upgrading the engine if 300+ is your target i think you have 2 reliable options.

KO4 Hybrid or GT28RS and if you go for either of these options then you must really fit uprated rods.

The weak point in the KO4 is going to be the manifold unless you can get a good reliable equal length that won't crack.

GT28RS seem reliable enough and again a good manifold is needed.

The other cheap option would be a KO3S Hybrid on the standard manifold.

Handling wise will depend if you go 4x4 or FWD.

If you go FWD then

KW V3's,R32 FARB,28mm RARB,S3 lower/upper bars,Diff,TT/R32 quickrack wishbones etc.

One tip i would say is once you have stripped the interior out,add some sort of brace to the rear either across the rear strut or just were the seats fit.

These is 1 member who has gone down the 4X4 route and that was UncleRic but i'm not sure if he sold it or not?

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/142432-2002-track-prepd-4x4-octy-hatch/page__p__1783231__fromsearch__1entry1783231