Does anyone remember the fabia vrs with 270bhp with the standard injectors and clutch, The same guy mapped that as well. Need I say more.

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It was not a rolling road as anyone with any sense knows these are not recommended for 200bhp+ due to the risk of the car coming off.

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Hahahahaha

Thanks for that

Edited 29 May, 201016 yr by wega3k

Neal, who are you ordering your car through?

John Mulholland Motors. I am the buiness manager there.

Edited 29 May, 201016 yr by nealb

Does anyone remember the fabia vrs with 270bhp with the standard injectors and clutch, The same guy mapped that as well. Need I say more.

I remember that Fabia. It was on other forums too. Lol

Dam £6000 lighter in the wallet just to get 260bhp and all i needed to do was get a re-map .Why didn't someone tell me.

You most certainly have not rained on my parrade, It was not a rolling road as anyone with any sense knows these are not recommended for 200bhp+ due to the risk of the car coming off. It was done on a DYNAPACK HUB DYNO which the car hubs are bolted to. Not going to argue about the figures it does not put me up or down either way. PS the same DYNAPACK HUB DYNO also gave a reading of 147bhp for a standard 150bhp vectra SRI so not reading high at all :p

Somebody should tell the BBC then that putting this 500hp (or 440 according to the rolling road) car was really really silly

Go to about 3:30 in...

Just as a little aside to this amazing rolling road thread, back in the day my 309 was one of the first(well probably the second or third) in the country to be fitted with an Mi 16v on 45's. On a rolling road shoot out at the GTI centre in Huddersfield we had terrible problems keeping it on the rollers..In the end, we had the car full of people and 4 blokes, me included sitting on the front wings whilst the very nervous faced operator ran the car up-got some pictures somewhere!! It made just short of 200bhp at the time but he came off the throttle at 6k as he **** himself when the car tried to climb out again with half a rugby team on-board! had another 2k almost to go!

Rollers have moved on a little since then and 200bhp is nothing nowadays but it was funny:giggle:

Had my new VRS petrol estate for 2 weeks now, its my 2nd one now and still loving it. Had it custom remapped by a company called torquetronix last week and it's now got 270bhp and loads more torque so is needless to say very very impressive. Anyway the reason for the post is to say that when mine was on the dyno before the remap it had 218bhp as standard, the guys there recon thats quite normal on these latest generation VAG engines. Whats more it had only done a few hundred miles then so these figures should improve as the engine loosens up.

It just makes it even easier to really annoy these Audi, BMW and Merc drivers lol

PS how annoying is all this volcanic dust crap, I need to clean my car twice a week now, or is that just being obsesive.

I think a tad over optomistic, get the company that mapped your car to sort their dyno out...........See the following, now that's realistic, SWMBO's car with REVO no other mods, just map.

I added stickers to my car as well as BSH... ive got 250bhp now

:p

RR's are safe.. its the numpties who strap them down and dont take proper measures to make sure its done right that makes it dangerous etc

Yea at hubs are more reliable on readings ... but 270 is a defenat proof needed job

Just wondering if it is possible on a ramap to get close.. obviously it wouldnt blow the engine bigstyle. but is it?

I wonder if the rolling roads he has seen are really treadmills :rofl:

Superted, nice torque figure. How is the clutch doing with nearly 300lb/ft of torque or has it been uprated?

Superted, nice torque figure. How is the clutch doing with nearly 300lb/ft of torque or has it been uprated?

Clutch is fine and standard, no slip whatsoever..........Have a look at the JKM project for further info, think all will find interesting....

http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/tsi-skoda-jkm.htm

You most certainly have not rained on my parrade, It was not a rolling road as anyone with any sense knows these are not recommended for 200bhp+ due to the risk of the car coming off. It was done on a DYNAPACK HUB DYNO which the car hubs are bolted to.

i think they have moved on from the days of using bungee cords to strap vehicles down

Id advise younot to go on any other dyno's as you will be sorely disapointed with the figures. But as the guys say its how it drives that counts.

figures are just pub talk, you must rule your pub though(only joking though)

can we have a look at your dyno printout please. would like to see the power and torque curves

I can drive thanks :pPlus I would just make sure I was in front of you to start so if i did struggle you still couldn't get past :p

hehe best of both worlds here 2.0TFSi and four wheel drive

Just as a little aside to this amazing rolling road thread, back in the day my 309 was one of the first(well probably the second or third) in the country to be fitted with an Mi 16v on 45's. On a rolling road shoot out at the GTI centre in Huddersfield we had terrible problems keeping it on the rollers..In the end, we had the car full of people and 4 blokes, me included sitting on the front wings whilst the very nervous faced operator ran the car up-got some pictures somewhere!! It made just short of 200bhp at the time but he came off the throttle at 6k as he **** himself when the car tried to climb out again with half a rugby team on-board! had another 2k almost to go!

Rollers have moved on a little since then and 200bhp is nothing nowadays but it was funny:giggle:

I was definately first!! mine made 216 bhp, and was featured in Fast Car mag in 1996? I think.......btw what do you mean by the '45's'

I was definately first!! mine made 216 bhp, and was featured in Fast Car mag in 1996? I think.......btw what do you mean by the '45's'

45's are the diameter of the throttle bodies arnt they???

John Mulholland Motors. I am the buiness manager there.

Ah now I know who you are. I got my car from yourself and John. If you recall myself and Joe in a few months ago with the madness with his driving licence having to be faxed from Portugal before we could get my Vrs released! Going great, best car I have had.

Ah now I know who you are. I got my car from yourself and John. If you recall myself and Joe in a few months ago with the madness with his driving licence having to be faxed from Portugal before we could get my Vrs released! Going great, best car I have had.

standard cars are slow get it mapped and then it will be the best car you had ,......again

45's are the diameter of the throttle bodies arnt they???

Arrr, I kept the fuel injection because the guy who did the conversion talked about a supercharger, but I ran out of funds due to a house purchase!

"You most certainly have not rained on my parrade, It was not a rolling road as anyone with any sense knows these are not recommended for 200bhp+ due to the risk of the car coming off. It was done on a DYNAPACK HUB DYNO which the car hubs are bolted to. Not going to argue about the figures it does not put me up or down either way. PS the same DYNAPACK HUB DYNO also gave a reading of 147bhp for a standard 150bhp vectra SRI so not reading high at all "

Yes hub dynos,do give more accurate output readings compared to rollers,BUT only if the correct info is inputed into the computer to start with,,readings can be fudged by operator quite easily.And the quote about 200bhp being the limit for rollers is absolute carp.

Edited 30 May, 201016 yr by kenny rsell

Strange that different rolling roads are showing high gains on the Tsi engine mine was 264 BHP on 95 ron started spot on 197 Tho.....

cant believe that all rolling roads are set up to give such false readings????

As has already been mentioned the RR is only as good as the operator.

In my experience if you have got 264bhp from JUST a remap then you are the victim of the dyno lottery.

Look further back in this thread and you will see the before and after result of a TSi engine on the same RR. Coincidentally that particular RR is regarded as one of the most accurate in the UK.

Carl

Edited 31 May, 201016 yr by vRSCarl

Strange that different rolling roads are showing high gains on the Tsi engine mine was 264 BHP on 95 ron started spot on 197 Tho.....

cant believe that all rolling roads are set up to give such false readings????

AMDs rollers are horrendous. 4times i have used their RR, and 3 of those times they have entered the details about temp, etc incorrectly. they also use 5th gear for dyno runs, where all the other operators i have used use 4th gear.

ie mine made 287Hp on bluefin stage 2+ on AMDs rollers, but bens 260Hp(JKMs rollers) was the quicker car of the two, despite the 27Hp deficit he had.

Shauns vRS(the owner) there is stage 2AMD with a quoted 277hp, he let me have a spin in it, and the bluefin was alot stronger especially low down. And thats from someone who changed from bluefin because i didnt rate it.

The only R that ibelieve any power quotes is a dyno dynamics. but most people dont like them because they ....under read, strange though when stock cars make the expected output on them, yet a stock car on another roller makes ....18hp more

Edited 31 May, 201016 yr by vRSy

As has already been mentioned the RR is only as good as the operator.

In my experience if you have got 264bhp from JUST a remap then you are the victim of the dyno lottery.

Look further back in this thread and you will see the before and after result of a TSi engine on the same RR. Coincidentally that particular RR is regarded as one of the most accurate in the UK.

Carl

Hi Carl sorry to hijack this thread but on the subject of rolling roads out of interest do you use some one round here, I live in Canterbury and want to get my Octavia 2.0ltr Pd 140 mapped.

Tris