Unlimited for

Of course they'll make a profit from it - the consumer is still charged more than the service costs (oh' date=' isn't that a rip off?). Being a smaller company, PlusNet have to look at long-term development and costs - they can't rely on the sales of baked beans to buoy their business if the broadband market dries up or they suddenly need to invest in new technologies.

And, by this same token, does this mean that an independent greengrocer, who does not sell a million carrots a day for a penny's profit each, has no excuse for selling his produce for more than Tesco charge?

Rob.[/quote']

Yes Rob, I do not buy in green grocers, BP filling stations etc because they charge more for the products than others such as Tesco. I get the stuff where it is cheapest (unless stuck). The running costs etc is not my concern, how much of my pay that goes out for something is. I am not going to pay Plus Net over

Well I pay

Perhaps an old no longer available to new customers deal.

Nope this is listed on their website. It's their premier account.

Perhaps an old no longer available to new customers deal.

Is still available - see here

Where does it say about the 5Gb cap?

Chris

If Plus Net can not compete it is not my responsibility to impoverish myself to keep them going

True - but then supposing Tesco started offering a medical research service, which cost people less than using your employer. So everyone switched to using Tesco for their medical research, and your company went out of business and hence you found yourself out of a job. Would you be happy going to work for minimum wage for a Tesco as a result of this?

Rob.

Is still available - see here

Where does it say about the 5Gb cap?

Chris

It is not. Look at the Home Premier, it lists

True - but then supposing Tesco started offering a medical research service' date=' which cost people less than using your employer. So everyone switched to using Tesco for their medical research, and your company went out of business and hence you found yourself out of a job. Would you be happy going to work for minimum wage for a Tesco as a result of this?

Rob.[/quote']

I do not do medical research on contract form outside commisions, so hardly likely. But even if that was a likely hood, it is survival of the fittest. I have no problem with large aggressive and successful companies.

It is not. Look at the Home Premier, it lists

I have no problem with large aggressive and successful companies.

Once they have eradicated the competition, what is there to stop them not being so competitive? What about when they introduce caps on their broadband and put the prices up, and all the exisiting competition has been put out of business so you have nowhere to go?

Rob.

Other comapnies can start up in that case, afterall Plus Net started at some point. Evidence does not always support what you say. Used to be all the horror stories of what would happen to software prices if Microsoft had a monopoly. Effectively they now do have and prices are cheaper than ever. You even now have courts saying that Microsoft can not give us products free with Windows so that we can go out and pay money for these type of products from other companies?????????? How is that good for us the consumer?

Also Tesco.com says that their broadband starts from

Also Tesco.com says that their broadband starts from

Effectively they now do have and prices are cheaper than ever. You even now have courts saying that Microsoft can not give us products free with Windows so that we can go out and pay money for these type of products from other companies?????????? How is that good for us the consumer?

Microsoft don't have a monopoly by any means - most serious hardware is still running versions of Unix (and will continue to do so), and Apple still have a strong market sector in the US.

And restricting what Microsoft give away "for free" is a good thing, as it encourages competition on something *other* than just cost.

Rob.

But Tesco don't rely on this as their main source of revenue' date=' as Plus Net do - therefore their margins are considerably lower, and I suspect most of Tesco's operation is outsourced so they don't have the setup overheads to cover.

So when all the good employees of PlusNet are out of work and claiming dole money, your taxes will go up to cover this, and it will be much more expensive than the difference between paying for broadband with Tesco or with PlusNet.

Cheapest is not always best value, particularly where large aggressive supermarkets are concerned.

Rob.[/quote']

Tesco is outsourced to NTL and uses Datastream as opposed to IPStream.

I've just got my Tesco Broadband......512k at

Whatever you choose don't go with Tiscali...always seems to get bad reviews on the customer services side.

From past experience, I'd say the same about NTL!

Chris

From past experience' date=' I'd say the same about NTL!

Chris[/quote']

I know but so far I haven't had to use them.

My choice was down to experience of their dial-up service plus cost.......if I could have afforded it....I would have gone for Pipex's 1M service.

Used to have Wanadoo, very bad customer service and not impressed at all. Have changed to AOL,

Tesco is outsourced to NTL and uses Datastream as opposed to IPStream.

I've just got my Tesco Broadband......512k at

Really, NTL do not operate in my area, so not sure how Tesco can be using them.

IIRC I got this from ADSL Guide.

Seems to be no mention of Tesco Internet on the ADSL Guide as far as I can see?

Anyway back to the advice that was requested.

You pay your money you take you choice, alot of people on here have good experiences with plusnet

I do not doubt it, but many other companies offer better service. If you baulk at getting your broad band from a supermarket, I note that Demon Internet (one of the first UK ISPs) also offer free set up and unlimited 512K broad band for about

I do not doubt it, but many other companies offer better service. If you baulk at getting your broad band from a supermarket, I note that Demon Internet (one of the first UK ISPs) also offer free set up and unlimited 512K broad band for about

Pipes to the states? ADSL ISPs use the BT network?