hi all

i went to my local vw meet on sunday and noticed a mk2 golf gti for sale,

now this usually would get a little look and thats about it but this one was slightly different, this one has had a no expense spared vr6 conversion with a stage 3 supercharge kit,

the car is pretty much mint and comes with porshe wheels and he's had abs fitted aswell (would come in handy!!)

the car produces 280bhp and obviously the supercharger noise is very tempting!!

this swap would be for my 2007 skoda fabia Vrs se with 47000 miles and is in not to bad condition just needs a lil bit of tlc and £2500 cash

opitions please

Price of fuel these days, I'd keep the Fabia personally.

Price of fuel these days, I'd keep the Fabia personally.

thats the thing though, i work less than half a mile from my house and will be getting a lift with my dad in the winter, it'll be purely a weekend car and what a weekend car!!!

I take it the £2500 is coming your way? It's not easy putting a value on a heavily modified car. If it's the kind of conversion you'd want to do yourself and it's done to a very high standard to a very good base car then it might be worth more to you than it would to somebody else. I think you'd need to accept that it might be a difficult car to sell on in the future. Obviously a VR6 engined mk2 Golf will be heavy on the fuel - expect low to mid twenties where you'd be getting 50mpg in the vRS. High mileages on highly modified cars will also destroy their value and make it difficult to sell on. If you're OK with all of that, and can get an agreed value modified car insurance policy, and you like the way it drives and looks then go for it

Well, I'm personally a fan of the VR6 and in a mk2 chassis they really do fly.

I do have to question the suitability of a supercharged version though in a mk2, I'm not sure the mk2 can really handle or put down that sort of power and still drive nicely.

Incidentally, 280 bhp is stage 2 on a supercharged VR6, you should be over 300 with a stage 3.

Edited 30 September, 201015 yr by Buzzark

yeah thats correct the money would be coming my way

i know the bloke personally and he has done many project cars like a 20v turbo mk1 golf, a couple modified mk2's and a mk4 r32,

there has been thousands spent on it and i do understand that its a risky deal but the money would come in handy on stuff i would wanna do to it and help on the insurance which would fill 2 pages on the adrian flux paper work,

the fuel bill is not really a problem as im saving £30 a week on fuel because my daily drive has dramastic cut from 30 mile trip to a 10 minute walk so it'll be my weekend treat and maybe the odd evening treat aswell,

ive been looking at vr6 cars and they average round 120,000 miles however this engine has covered 80,000 and been rebuit with strong internals and new seals 15,000 miles ago,

I'd do it

Bear in mind that the VR6 is a heavy old lump hanging out the front of a Golf. It was just about manageable in the mk3 it was built for, let alone the lighter mk2. Depending on how it has been installed, and how the chassis has been modified to cope, it could be verging on being dangerous in the lighter mk2. From what you say this conversion has been done to a very high standard,so I expect it has got high quality brakes, suspension and a set of decent ARBs to tame it - just be aware that some VR6 converted mk2s weren't done so thoroughly and had a tendency to swap ends :S

If there's any likelihood that your 10 minute walk to work will change back to a 30 mile drive you might find yourself with a highly specialised car that could take forever to move on whilst depreciating faster than a falling girder.

Don't want to sound negative, if the car has been done properly, the bodywork is all sound and you're not likely to need to sell it on in a hurry then go for it

As above mate. As much as i love my Fabia, without mods its no weekend car. That mk2 would put a smile on ur face, and money in ur back pocket so go for it. If u dont youll regret it n if u wanna sell it on through missing your fabia, edition 38 and it will go in a day

You only live once, one life live it!

I would get an insurance quote and take it from there

Its never in a million years worth it, Its worth 5k tops!!!! and thats from a mk2 lover/owner these cars come up on edition all the time with silly price tags over the months as they don't sell they drop by 000's the vr6 conversion in a mk2 is VERY simple and cheap to do, granted the sc conversion is expensive but still, the value will drop like a stone as the years go by, my advice if you want a mk2 is buy a gti16v with a solid shell and watch year in year out as the value goes up!!!!!

Edited 1 October, 201015 yr by oilburninnut

I've been in a mk2 v6 conversion and it was awesome, let alone supercharged. I would definatly do it if I was 100% sure it would be a weekend car, and I KNEW it would be reliable

I'd say no.

Just wait until things start going wrong with it and you end up spending your weekends trying to fix it instead of driving it.

The Fabia is much better car, you'll be giving up a lot, like leather seats, a/c, and what ever extra's you have on the car. yea I know its a weekend car, personally i'd rather keep the fabia.

You have had lots of good advice above and obviously only you would know what would make you happy in the long term.

If your looking for another opinion, then I would stick with the Fabia as well, but for me there's no contest for the following reasons:

Personally I'm not a lover of greatly modified cars for all the hassle that they bring along, such as increased fuel costs, increased insurance costs, increased police attention, increased attention from jealous vandals and theifs, decreased value when you come to sell it on, potential safety and reliablity issues etc from shoddy/bodged/unapproved modifications, also in reality, you can't use all that power on our roads anyway.

I've been in a mk2 v6 conversion and it was awesome, let alone supercharged. I would definatly do it if I was 100% sure it would be a weekend car, and I KNEW it would be reliable

I never seem to meet people like you when i'm selling, tis a pity a vrs se +2k = about 10k for something worth 1/2 that, this deal favours 1 person and 1 person only thats the seller, if you want a quality mk2 about 5k will get you one of the best, take your pick, there are bonuses to running one din't get me wrong, they handle about a million times better than the vrs, they are faster, they are actually very comfortable, especially the recaro equipped ones, but the guy who said you will spend a lot of weekends fixing it was bang on the money, i have spent 2k in maintenance alone in the past year and if you have to pay someone to do the work then expect that figure to jump up another 1k, they are not cheap to run at all, and if you don't have another car to use when the mk2 is being tempremental it can be a pain. Personally i think the vr isn't a good combination in a mk2 as its too heavy and upsets the handling, also it will struggle to put the power down, even in the dry, at the end of the day its your money and your choice, but mk2 ownership isn't without its pitfalls and certainly isn't cheap they are money pits, i personally wouldn't swap mine for anything, but then i also have a second car so can afford for it to be off the road every winter.

I think thiks is a head vs heart debate,

Heart. love to have it evrything will be rosie.

Head. it's a money pit, will cost a fortune to run and maintain.

I have been there before, with my Land Rover, i knew it would only do about 24mpg and at the time i only travelled 3 miles return to work.

but i always seemed to be filling it up possible twice a month at £130 a time. After a while it wears you down, as much as i loved i knew it had to go.

See if there is any way that you can borrow the car for a weekend, even if it means paying to be a named driver on the owners insurance, just to get a feel of the car.

I'm not saying Don't, just keep your eyes WIDE open.

genuine reason for sale i assume? must of cost a small fortune if done correctly ?

I never seem to meet people like you when i'm selling, tis a pity a vrs se +2k = about 10k for something worth 1/2 that, this deal favours 1 person and 1 person only thats the seller, if you want a quality mk2 about 5k will get you one of the best, take your pick,

I think if you re-read the above postings you'll find the deal is the Skoda being swapped for the VW + £2.5k

Hence with the SE being worth (if slightly tatty as suggested) around £8k that makes the VW £5.5k...

Edited 1 October, 201015 yr by DRJ

I think if you re-read the above postings you'll find the deal is the Skoda being swapped for the VW + £2.5k

Hence with the SE being worth (if slightly tatty as suggested) around £8k that makes the VW £5.5k...

Oops

just a case of knowing the pifalls then i supose

I think thiks is a head vs heart debate,

Heart. love to have it evrything will be rosie.

Head. it's a money pit, will cost a fortune to run and maintain.

I have been there before, with my Land Rover, i knew it would only do about 24mpg and at the time i only travelled 3 miles return to work.

but i always seemed to be filling it up possible twice a month at £130 a time. After a while it wears you down, as much as i loved i knew it had to go.

See if there is any way that you can borrow the car for a weekend, even if it means paying to be a named driver on the owners insurance, just to get a feel of the car.

I'm not saying Don't, just keep your eyes WIDE open.

I can kind of relate to what you are saying on the fuel part. Since I've got the civic my average mpg has been about 22-24mpg from the fabias 40-45mpg, my commute is only an 8 mile round trip (used to be 70 with the fabia) but I'm spending just as much fuel!. Probably due to overuse in my spare time with it being new, but that still doesnt help my pocket feel any better.

Wouldnt swap it for anything (for the same price and insurance that is)

You could just sell the vRS (to me?) for £8k and use the cash to get a good price on the Mk II?

Personally, I wouldn't touch anyone else's modified car with a bargepole as you really never can tell exactly what's going on with people. Even people you know well will mug you if there is enough in it for them.

Wouldnt swap it for anything (for the same price and insurance that is)

What about a Civic Type R FD2? lol. Is yours the CW edition FN2?

What about a Civic Type R FD2? lol. Is yours the CW edition FN2?

No, but that wouldnt be the same price

Hi

I think if you have to ask its not the deal for you .

Keep the Fabia.

Good luck

Regards Whoosh