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The cable gas snapped/come out of teh mechanism on my passenger window.

Me and a friend removed teh doorcord to find the door carrier is riveted to the door (stupid design) so I can't get at any of it!

Before I drill the rivets out is there another way of gaining access to the workings or is it, as I'm fearing, a case of having to drill out the rivets and get them replaced after?

Get your drill out mate. theres no other way AFAIK....

You can either re-rivet or use small nuts and bolts.

I believe some early fabias used nuts and bolts them but most are riveted.

Be sure the carrier seals keep their integrity or you'll have leaks afterwards.

Might be worth getting a bead of sealant round it after reassembly just to

be sure. :thumbup:

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Cheers for the reply.

I thought that would be the case, oh well.

You can't use nuts and bolts, as there is no access to the rear of the carrier when it's in place. Rivets and gun to fit them are special. You can buy the complete door carrier from Europarts for £70. Indy will charge about £60 labour to fit the part.

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thanks for the heads up, I know bolting it will be impossible, no access as you say (unless you find a really long spanner...). Its a stupid design looking at it, the VW's I've seen are bolted in, why the heck did skoda choose rivets?

thanks for the heads up, I know bolting it will be impossible, no access as you say (unless you find a really long spanner...). Its a stupid design looking at it, the VW's I've seen are bolted in, why the heck did skoda choose rivets?

All down to cost mate. 10 rivets 10 pence, 10 nuts and bolts £1. Add that up over thousands of cars, it's a lot of money. Modern cars are not designed to be worked on. They are all a bloody nightmare for all but the simplest repairs. I remember the good old days, when you could do a Cavalier clutch in 20 minutes. There was a cover plate, a special tool to withdraw the 1st motion shaft and the old clutch just fell out.

Be glad it's not your servo, that's almost an engine out job due to lack of space. Hell, you have to take the battery and tray/airbox out, just to CHECK the power steering fluid on a VRS.

Just did a full service on my Morris Traveller, Oil and filter, air filer, plugs, points, rotor arm, dizzy cap, grease trunnions and prop shaft. One hour, and I wasn't in a hurry :rofl:

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Morris Traveller... Sweet ride!

Its a pain in the a**e, I hate paying for labour when you think you could just do it yourslef if you had the right tools (rivet gun in this case), then the cost said tools is more then the labour and you end up paying the labour to save money. Spanners/allen keys/sockets everyone has in their garage, 'special' rivet guns is a different kettle of fish, wish manufacturers would stop inventing proprietary tooling needs to put people off DIY'ing it at the weekend.

I too now have a problem with my passenger window, luckily it broke on the way home and not whilst camping in the pouring rain at Silverstone for the 24hr race!

Anyway, my mate and I have got the offending part out (window regulator) - it has snapped in half, and until this point I wasn't aware of any problems with these parts, but it seems others are having issues too.

Is it possible just to replace this white clip, or are there replacement parts which have been revised?

Moggy - you mention replacing the whole carrier, is this completely necessary?

It happened to my Vrs to, Its a nightmare drilling all those rivits out, They are badly designed I think..

The carrier was held in with (very large) self-tappers on our 2000 SDI. From memory there is enough surrounding metal for you to drill and use new self tappers close to the rivet holes. The VW site guide is very good with lots of pictures and tips (such as bending the corners to get the cable on).

The carrier was held in with (very large) self-tappers on our 2000 SDI. From memory there is enough surrounding metal for you to drill and use new self tappers close to the rivet holes. The VW site guide is very good with lots of pictures and tips (such as bending the corners to get the cable on).

Got a link for that site?

VW did a revised part that was all metal but I don't think it will fit the Fabia system. The complete carrier route is by the far the easiest, but of course, the most expensive. Personally, I would rather spend £40 more, and avoid hours of swearing and cut fingers, but that's just me. :rofl: Really cheap option is a bit of 2x2 wood, placed inside door to hold window shut, forever.

I too now have a problem with my passenger window, luckily it broke on the way home and not whilst camping in the pouring rain at Silverstone for the 24hr race!

Anyway, my mate and I have got the offending part out (window regulator) - it has snapped in half, and until this point I wasn't aware of any problems with these parts, but it seems others are having issues too.

Is it possible just to replace this white clip, or are there replacement parts which have been revised?

Moggy - you mention replacing the whole carrier, is this completely necessary?

If the cable is not damaged ,the black plastic part(original ) can be replaced by a replacement white one. A bit awkward to fit, you need a 6" Record type wood clamp to compress the two springs on the winder rear housing(they keep the cable in sprung tention) . The replacement part can be obtained on Ebay for about £9.

Edited by AndyPandy

You can save a bob or two by stripping the door, removing the broken carrier.. fitting the new carrier which has a couple of locating pins and gaffa taping it in, before nipping down the local dealer and having them literary just pop some new rivets in.. They charged me £20 for 15min labor when I did this.. and like a quid for the rivets... then I drove home and re-fitted all the trim.

It was suggested to me once, a product called screw rivets could be used? They're like a rivet but you screw into them and the back side of them deforms/pulls back kind of like a normal rivet? Not very common though.

Edited by Rob.

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