Java applets are disabled within the Restricted Sites Zone. As a result, any mail client that opened HTML mail within the Restricted Sites Zone, such as Outlook 2002, Outlook Express 6, or Outlook 98 or 2000 when used in conjunction with the Outlook Email Security Update, would not be at risk from the mail-based attack vector.

How many people add sites to the restricted zone though to give protection in IE though? (Sorry, being pedantic!)

There is a site out there with a file that updates the restricted list, to add all known spam, spyware, adult and general malware sites, but I don't have the URL any more - was bloody useful though!

Stimps - I presume you're using the Dell kit provided through an NHSNet connection. Is that connection firewalled and have you got the latest core for trend neatsuite as that has spyware blockers and popup blockers

It's certainly in the 90s' date=' I would suggest.[/b']

High 80s to low 90s, IIRC

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Yes Macs alone make up for more than 1%, but almost all Macs are used by a fairly specialised arty, designer type user. Their use for home computing and in education has all but died. I remember back 14 years or so ago when I started my PhD, Macs were almost universally used in the University system, same was true when I went to wok as a Post Doc in England 3 years later. By 1998, my University was no longer setting up Mac based ope access centres and by 2000 announced that the IT support people would no longer offer any sort of support for die hards who still insisted in using Apple computers.

Similarly I used to see Unix being used on very high power Work Station type computers for molecular simulation etc. Have now not seen one of these for at least 5 years. I am afraid to say that Microsoft more or less rules the computer world, which is why I suspect Apple is moving into such low cred things as Personal Stereos etc.

We have dell kit, firewalled (with anti-spam and content checking). No spyware or popup blockers though. All the techie stuff like that is now handled by another org. so I don't have a clue what they do or use!

Now (don't laugh) is there such a thing as a free/share ware GUI css editor?

I've never found one - DreamWeaver seems to be as good as it gets, but that's neither cheap nor do I find it particularly quick to use...

Rob.

Each machine serves its purposes but now i think its lazy on the side of the administrator not willing or the company employing not willing to fund the learning of the alternatives. Using them is much of a muchness now, its just the nitty gritty. I have to use M$ because i play direct3d games which are M$ only and not opengl like Linux etc... Its a burden at the best of times because you can expect it to die because the OS cant handle something (even though xp has restricted memory for apps, it still dies).

I have taken the time to learn each of these in the nitty gritty side, and even set up web servers on both, servers for files, firewalls, proxies, and I have my preferences. The only good thing to come from MS is visual basic and VBA. It is simple and lets you do what you want. thats about it really.

I'd second that for dreamweaver, however i think its dead easy to use

I also have an awkward issue - I installed FF a couple of days ago and it worked fine for a while. During this time I installed the "change my user agent" extension. I didn't play with Java. Now when I launch it I get "Java Plug-in for Netscape Navigator should not be used in Microsoft Internet Explorer. Please use Java Plug-in for Microsoft Internet Explorer instead".

When I dismiss this box the firefox process goes into a very tight loop (10 or so assembler instructions - I haven't bothered see what they actually do - my x86 debugging knowledge is a little on the rusty side) and does nothing but consume CPU :(

Yes Macs alone make up for more than 1%, but almost all Macs are used by a fairly specialised arty, designer type user.

Very popular stateside though, where they a relatively well-priced. It's only in this country the sterotype of it being an "artists" machine exists...

And MacOS nowadays is essentially UNIX anyway!

Similarly I used to see Unix being used on very high power Work Station type computers for molecular simulation etc.

Most servers which are required to be reliable will run a version of Unix though - Microsoft do not dominate this share of the market by any means...

Rob.

Simon,

uninstall firefox

run regedit

search for anything Moz*, firef* netsc* and delete accordingly

restart

reinstall

should work

Rob - i know i'd rather run photoshop and illustrator on a mac only for stability and the fact the mouse is gorgeous

I'd second that for dreamweaver, however i think its dead easy to use

I find on a 14.1" laptop screen there's just too many small panes to make it easy to use...that, and the fact I've received absolutely no training in it and don't have the time or the inclination to sit down and figure it out...

17" PowerBook...that's what I need.

Rob.

The only good thing to come from MS is visual basic and VBA. It is simple and lets you do what you want. thats about it really.

Eventually we'll get a nice forms package to go with mono - then I'll think about switching.

DON'T SUGGEST GTK#

Thank you, kind sir. Now (don't laugh) is there such a thing as a free/share ware GUI css editor? Methinks there ought to be, but I've never found one, so I rely on a text editor (and I'm not the greatest at css, so it's painful)

No personal recommendations, but have a look here as a lot of them claim to make CSS writing easy....

Chris

Also william - if you want to see stablity - see here

http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html

Learning *nix operating systems takes a long time, and what you've learnt is easy to forget since so much of it involves editing obscure text files. Then you have the 93 different flavours of it, the differing sys admin offerings by each vendor, and you've got yourself a learning nightmare. It's no coincidence that good Unix sysadmins are paid a lot more than MS ones....

Simon - would never suggest that - i got so fed up with it. Just really need an environment as easy as VB but with a bit more power. I find that to interact with something else, you usually have to use the api to get the window name - however when the software changes version..... tis a little bit too easy for me now - but was good to start its just annoying small things like that

Rob - admittedly it does need a bit of patience to learn, but i find that i hate anything else now having used it in work

Learning *nix operating systems takes a long time, and what you've learnt is easy to forget since so much of it involves editing obscure text files.

But it is possible to have a simple solution - personally I've always found Solaris pretty easy to use, and doesn't need much hacking about.

Other people cope alright using MacOS, and that's now a version of *nix underneath.

Admittedly there's "using" and "using", but it is possible to have operating systems which cater to everyone's requirements.

Rob.

Browser usage stats: http://www.onestat.com/html/aboutus_pressbox34.html

From November mind. But trying to find browser stats is difficult. Here's a couple:

http://www.webreference.com/stats/browser.html

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

(above 2 are more techie sites, so more likely to be using other browsers)

I wonder how those stats will be affected once IE is taken out of windows

Has Netscape actually died out now, as I see that browser stat page credits all use to IE, Mozilla and one I have never heard of?

For one of the sites I manage (only small, but stats go back to June 2002)

Browser stats: Netscape 4.22% - MSIE 95.34% - Other 0.43%

OS stats: Windows 95.67% - Mac 2.35% - Unix 0.31% - Other 1.66%

netscape was NN6 etc...

The first link does not list Netscape at all. What ever happened to it, even on the third link it makes up such a small %, yet in the not to distant past Netscape was the main browser, and then the main rival browser to IE. To be honest, I would not have even heard of FireFox if it had not been for this web site, were as I used Netscape upto version 6, which I hated, leading me to move to IE.

But it is possible to have a simple solution - personally I've always found Solaris pretty easy to use' date=' and doesn't need much hacking about.

Other people cope alright using MacOS, and that's now a version of *nix underneath.

Admittedly there's "using" and "using", but it is possible to have operating systems which cater to everyone's requirements.

Rob.[/quote']

You've always found Solaris easy to use! You are wasted in your present job, then

Are you talking about using, or using, here? I.e. do you know how to configure DNS on Solaris, for example? (I certainly don't). It's a long time since I've used it - in fact I stopped playing with Suns just as Solaris came out, so I can't comment too much. I didn't notice Linux being exactly "easy to use" compared with Windows though, last time I looked.

You've always found Solaris easy to use! You are wasted in your present job, then

I've known this for a while now...

Are you talking about using, or using, here? I.e. do you know how to configure DNS on Solaris, for example? (I certainly don't).

This was actually something I dabbled with on a small scale quite a few years ago now. Damned if I can remember any of it now though, but quite possibly if I was sat in front of a terminal it might ring a few bells. Unfortunately the only Sun machine we have here runs a webserver, and I don't think they'd appreciate me "trying out a few things" on that...

Oh, and there are a few nice GUIs out there for Linux which are easy to use - and like the Apple, if you're just using the machine it's straightforward enough.

Rob.