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After getting in a cold VRS, how long does it take before you can drive off? Any delays starting, or warming up?

You dont need to let it stand, just drive off straight away. However its not a bad idea to let the engine come to normal operating temp before pushing the loud pedal too much.

Do a search has been discussed to death!

To be honest, most days less than a second. When it's around zero can be up to 5 seconds and when it's below zero can be up to 10 seconds before you can start the ccar.

Mike start up your car drive it with care and don't rev the engine hard until the temperature guage is happily sat in the mid positon (90 degrees?)

Once everything is properly warmed up enjoy pressing long and hard on that loud pedal :D

Not that the 1.9PD is loud even when working hard

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Do a search has been discussed to death!

- mainly the warming up period after driving off, I think.

My VRS takes approx 4 miles to get from cold start to erection ( 90 degrees )

( ok start the jokes )

My VRS takes approx 4 miles to get from cold start to erection ( 90 degrees )

( ok start the jokes )

Should I go there........? ;)

Is that 4 miles of motorway Steve? because my Superb takes more than with local driving.

Andy

I did set it up, but no takers yet ( OH! go on then :) )

2 miles to M'Way, then approx 2 miles on M'Way. ( no heavy feet till warm. )

Steve

Mike start up your car drive it with care and don't rev the engine hard until the temperature guage is happily sat in the mid positon (90 degrees?)

This is the water temperature though and not the oil temperature! The oil takes significantly longer (5-10 miles of driving?) before it is up to temperature :)

Chris

Mike

You might want to ask how long it takes for the heater to warm up (rather than the engine) in a vRS.

Remember that the your 2.0 petrol's cabin warms quicker (as the diesel is so thermally efficient) and you don't get the heated seats as standard that you had in the 2.0.

To be honest unless you buy a diesel which has a pre-heater that's the only downside you can genuinely point at the modern diesels I've owned. As an example, the girlfriends Mondeo TDCi is awful at heating the cabin until 10-15 minutes of driving.

Got heated seats on order for just that reason - Mrs would be whining otherwise, as she gets dropped off at her work about 2 miles into the journey.

My Rover 100 (petrol) warms up pretty quickly on the gage, but I still tend to take it a little easy till I get a few miles into the journey.

Thing is - if you floor it before reasonable warmup of ANY engine type, petrol or diesel, you'll increase stresses on the block significantly. Letting it warm up a little is a good thing. Manufacturers tend to recommend driving the car in order to warm it up rather than warming it up 'parked', perhaps for the same reasons.

Either way, a few miles to ease you into it will probably happen naturally anyway, due to the usual traffic jams in the mornings in towns/villages ;)

You'll figure it out :D

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You might want to ask how long it takes for the heater to warm up (rather than the engine) in a vRS.
Actually, warming up after one has driven off is not my question. My sister told me that both her neighbours start their (diesel) cars and let them run for a couple of minutes before driving off. She finds the noise and smell a nuisance, but they say it is necessary. I am sceptical.

Takes ages for an engine to warm up when stationary and idling, best to just get in and drive off, give it some work to do, and blast all that condensation out of the exhaust pipe! I tend to keep below 2500 rpm until the temperature gauge is in the vertical position - never had any problems yet with this approach, and I'm getting a few miles under my belt whilst it warms up.

Actually, warming up after[/i'] one has driven off is not my question. My sister told me that both her neighbours start their (diesel) cars and let them run for a couple of minutes before driving off. She finds the noise and smell a nuisance, but they say it is necessary. I am sceptical.

I'm pretty sure it says somewhere in my Fabia handbook NOT to do this. Instead you should start the engine and then drive off straight away.

Actually, warming up after[/i'] one has driven off is not my question. My sister told me that both her neighbours start their (diesel) cars and let them run for a couple of minutes before driving off. . I am sceptical.

Mike

It might not be your original question, but to be honest its a diesel weakness that you should be aware of in winter.

Trust me, I've owned a lot of cars, modern diesels take a long time to get warm in the cabin (AND defrost when the windows are frozen).

I'm presuming that the Fabia vRS does not come with a pre-heater that some 'premium brands' have ?

My mum always told me to listen to my sister ... :)

I'm pretty sure it says somewhere in my Fabia handbook NOT to do this. Instead you should start the engine and then drive off straight away.

I know it says this, but it's a bit of a pain if the windscreen needs demisting ;)

Chris

Don't worry about it sport, just give it a mo or so to get adjusted to the fact that it's morning ( just think about how you feel first thing) and then bobs your aunty, off you go. Just take it steady until the oil comes up to temp then drive it 'like you stole it' easy! :rally:

When the windows are not frozen up I'd drive away :D

If they are frozen up, I use the following approach:

1. Start Engine

2. Leave the heating OFF for a minute whilst clearing the rubbish of the windows

3. Turn on the heating.

Big petrol engine'd cars take longer than smaller ones too. At the end of the day, I couldn't care less if I have to wait a few more minutes to be able to SEE where I am going safely. I don't buy the 'gotta wait a few minutes as it's a diesel' argument on it's own however, that's plainly untrue. The real reason for those people saying it I'd argue has more to do with liking a warm(er) car. Understandable admittedly :D

The real reason for those people saying it I'd argue has more to do with liking a warm(er) car. Understandable admittedly :D

Spoken like someone who has a car on order with heated seats ;)

Actually, warming up after[/i'] one has driven off is not my question. My sister told me that both her neighbours start their (diesel) cars and let them run for a couple of minutes before driving off. She finds the noise and smell a nuisance, but they say it is necessary. I am sceptical.

My Audi TDI's handbook says drive off ASAP after starting and do not intentionally allow to idle first. With modern low viscosity oils there should be no problem with initial oil circulation. Just don't ask too much of the engine before its had a chance to reach normal operationg temperature.

The point about oil temperature is well made. On a cold morning the Audi's oil temp guage has not moved by the time water is at 90.

@Fabpreza - Got it in one :D - I personally won't need it much probably but Mrs liked the idea, and as this will probably be the only new car I'll buy it seemed to make sense :D

This is the water temperature though and not the oil temperature! The oil takes significantly longer (5-10 miles of driving?) before it is up to temperature :)

Chris

Interesting point, both my Golf GTi Convertible and my Golf VR6 both had a similar onboard computer to that of my vRS. However there was a very useful additional piece of information that their systems gave which was oil temperature. It seems that Skoda have missed a trick here as it would be great to have the oil temperature also displayed. Has anyone achieved this ?

It seems that Skoda have missed a trick here as it would be great to have the oil temperature also displayed. Has anyone achieved this ?

Probably viewable with VAG-COM if you set it up for datalogging? Not much use for every day driving though :D

Chris

The other thing not to forget is to let the engine cool off before shutting down, especially if its had a caning on the motorway.

How often do you see turbo'd cars come into motorway services fresh from doing 80+mph and the driver pulls up and switches straight off. If only they could see how hot the turbo bearings were !

A couple of minutes simmering must surely make long term sense.

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