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I have had my 53 plate vRS since new and had the discs and pads replaced at about 80k by a Skoda Dealer and these were fine. I had these replaced at about 135k by a local independent in June this year. Since then I have had them replaced twice more under warranty by the same guy due to juddering of the brakes and steering having covering a total of about 10k. These are now juddering again and I am going to have to take it back yet again. The disks fitted by the indy garage have all come from Eurocarparts so are presumably Pagid or Eicher. I am going to insist that original Skoda parts are fitted this time.

My worry is that the problem isn't actually going to go away by replacing the disks and pads. During this last 6 months I have also had the front tyres replaced, front anti rollbar and bushes, top suspension mounting bush replaced, wheels balance and I am going to replace the rear tyres at the weekend and swap those wheels to the front.

After each disk replacement I have driven carefully for the first couple of hundred miles then progressively over a period of time they start to judder. Sometimes it is only slight, others it is severe and there is little or no pattern to it other than being from motorway speeds 80-85 down to 60-65.

Can anyone shed some light on the problem or offer any advice?

I can be fairly confident that you HAVEN'T warped the discs, especially as you drive gently with them to begin with. This is the time that it's most important to do some harsh braking (where safety permits, of course), so that you bed the pads in.

More details here:

http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp_warped_brakedisk.shtml

If you want to ensure you have good discs next time, then go to GSF and get some Brembo HC discs. They are better quality than the ones that Skoda will supply. Totally standard look and dimensions, and I think they were £90 for the pair which is cheap.

http://www.brembo.com/ENG/AfterMarketBrakes/Discs/ProductsHC.htm

I have Pagid discs & pads fitted to both our VRS & Bora, & I recommend them highly. :thumbup:

I have just had to have a new set of discs and pads on the front of our VRS only had it a month and it had EBC greenstuff pads and grooved discs which were 8 months old and terribly warped, replaced them with the Brembo discs and pads and the car is 100% better now, cant recommend the Brembos enough :yes:

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I can be fairly confident that you HAVEN'T warped the discs, especially as you drive gently with them to begin with. This is the time that it's most important to do some harsh braking (where safety permits, of course), so that you bed the pads in.

More details here:

http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp_warped_brakedisk.shtml

Thanks for all the replies. Known brands seem to be the answer. I read the article posted by ap0gee with great interest and I am sure the science behind it is relevant particularly to racing cars and other cars with high performance braking systems, however I do question the relevance to "normal" road going vehicles. I have had many cars with many replacement discs over the years and have never been told or read anywhere that you have to do more than just take it easy for the first couple of hundred miles - or indeed suffered from the failure of multiple sets on the same vehicle displaying the same symptoms.

Anyway new tyres and balance tomorrow, if problem persists, more new discs next week.

Suit yourself, but you're throwing good money after bad IMHO...

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Suit yourself, but you're throwing good money after bad IMHO...

According to the article my current discs are probably beyond retrieval anyway and another new set won't cost me any more than a bit of inconvenience as they will be replaced under warranty. I will however, subject to the road conditions, follow the techniques described in the article. That way I will probably never know whether it was the new better quality discs or the technique followed in the article. I really didn't mean to offend or rubbish anyones views.

That method works

Tried and tested by myself a few years back.

Good fun doing it as well lol

According to the article my current discs are probably beyond retrieval anyway and another new set won't cost me any more than a bit of inconvenience as they will be replaced under warranty. I will however, subject to the road conditions, follow the techniques described in the article. That way I will probably never know whether it was the new better quality discs or the technique followed in the article. I really didn't mean to offend or rubbish anyones views.

Me neither, and since the work's being done under warranty, you won't lose out from the default garage response of "Yeah, you've warped your discs..." But considering Carroll Smith's reputation, I'd take his word over some mechanic who'll profit out of removing a set of marginally-unserviceable parts and replacing them without informing you how to stop the problem happening again..

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