I have yet to see the TCS light come on whilst driving despite trying hard to invoke a loss of traction. I assume all is working OK as the light briefly comes on at start up and I can deactivate and reactivate TCS. Has anyone a comment on this or suggest how I may just see the TCS flicker on the dash display? I have tried driving with one wheel on ice and then all wheels on ice.

I have fitted Nokian winter tyres on 16" wheels, in lieu of the standard 17" on the SE, and the car feels amazingly stable in snow and slush. Even forced braking (just to test the stability) is in a straight line and the abs only cuts in at the last moment as the tyres cope with the present conditions very well. It is not prudent to be complacent but the transformation of the car with winter tyres is marked.

I have yet to see the TCS light come on whilst driving despite trying hard to invoke a loss of traction. I assume all is working OK as the light briefly comes on at start up and I can deactivate and reactivate TCS. Has anyone a comment on this or suggest how I may just see the TCS flicker on the dash display? I have tried driving with one wheel on ice and then all wheels on ice.

I have fitted Nokian winter tyres on 16" wheels, in lieu of the standard 17" on the SE, and the car feels amazingly stable in snow and slush. Even forced braking (just to test the stability) is in a straight line and the abs only cuts in at the last moment as the tyres cope with the present conditions very well. It is not prudent to be complacent but the transformation of the car with winter tyres is marked.

EXACTLY

Usually, when you need the "ESP" to work, you c an be quit busy conr´trolling the vehicle, and do not notice the yellow flashing of the indicator on the dashboard.

I've only noticed it twice during this current "episode", once going up the track to our friends house last night, and once on the way to work this morning, when I tried to accelerate out of an uphill corner a bit too vigorously. I would say that with your winter tyres on you probably wont see it very much.

I've only noticed it twice during this current "episode", once going up the track to our friends house last night, and once on the way to work this morning, when I tried to accelerate out of an uphill corner a bit too vigorously. I would say that with your winter tyres on you probably wont see it very much.

I guess it could be the tyres. I have been looking carefully at the dash whilst accelerating hard to test but zilch! I guess I should not be complaining. Come to think of it I have not felt the Haldex 4wd kick in but it must have in the present weather conditions.

Its not just Traction control, but also ESP?

I can make it flash on a particular sharp left hand bend with adverse canber near my house if I take the bend a little enthusiastically.

It has been flashing all the time as well in the snow on my 2wd, indeed I got stuck on my estate yesterday. The car would not move at all until I turned off the traction control, allowing the wheels to spin and dig down for some traction. With the traction control on the revs would not rise and both wheels would not turn as they immediately started to spin, and the brakes were applied by the car to stop the spin..

Its not just Traction control, but also ESP?

I can make it flash on a particular sharp left hand bend with adverse canber near my house if I take the bend a little enthusiastically.

It has been flashing all the time as well in the snow on my 2wd, indeed I got stuck on my estate yesterday. The car would not move at all until I turned off the traction control, allowing the wheels to spin and dig down for some traction. With the traction control on the revs would not rise and both wheels would not turn as they immediately started to spin, and the brakes were applied by the car to stop the spin..

Yes it is ESP as well. It would just be nice to see the light flash!

Yes it is ESP as well. It would just be nice to see the light flash!

Put your summers back on

Mike

Put your summers back on

Mike

I guess that would do it!!

mine flashed a couple o times today in very deep snow on a steep slope'....car ploughed thru tho....fwd 1.2 on summer dunlops

I saw it come on once during my first journey in it (pulling uphill out of a junction), but despite it being on, I can still easily spin the wheels at lights and so forth.

Shouldn't it stop me doing that?

I saw it come on once during my first journey in it (pulling uphill out of a junction), but despite it being on, I can still easily spin the wheels at lights and so forth.

Shouldn't it stop me doing that?

It can only keep one wheel from spinning if the other has grip, it senses the difference in speed between the two wheels and applies the brake to the spinning wheel. If both wheels are spinning it won't be able to tell there is a problem, it will just brake the faster spinning wheel to the speed of the slower wheel, and both will continue to spin

It can only keep one wheel from spinning if the other has grip, it senses the difference in speed between the two wheels and applies the brake to the spinning wheel. If both wheels are spinning it won't be able to tell there is a problem, it will just brake the faster spinning wheel to the speed of the slower wheel, and both will continue to spin

Ah, gotcha

I saw it come on once during my first journey in it (pulling uphill out of a junction), but despite it being on, I can still easily spin the wheels at lights and so forth.

Shouldn't it stop me doing that?

I do not know if there is a difference between 2WD and 4WD logic. One would suppose that it senses the difference in speed between the two spinning front wheels and the non-spinning rears? One would also suppose that it will at least reduce the Front spin somewhat.

On a 4WD, trying to do wild 4 wheel spins in a circle in the snow, all 4 wheels spin, but the accelerator input is reduced to limit the spin. As I was turning around in a circle at the time (intentionally in a large empty car park) the ESP must have thunk that I was not in control and intervened.

I coukld still make all 4 spin in a circle, but the speed was limited by the Monster Logic.

My 2wd yeti got stuck last night in snow and I had to walk 6 miles home.

TCS was the culprit, it reduced my revs so that I lost momentum on a hill. I couldn't get enough traction to get up even with it switched off.

I'll be off to Halfords for snow chains I think, or are winter tyres better?

To make it worse I had to witness two wheel drive fiestas and a transit van getting up the hill.

Very disappointed in yeti's snow ability!!

There is absolutely no question, fitting winter tyres is the first thing to do, if you can get 'em!

See other posts on this subject, you'll be quickly convinced of the benefits.

Edited 4 December, 201015 yr by speedsport

Forget the chains. If you think you need more than the winter tyres get a set of Snow Socks instead. Much more practical.