Hi,

I have an Octavia II ambient model. I have normal halogen headlights .....I want to update to Xenon headlights however I have no idea how to do this though !!!!!!

I already own two Octavia II - genuine Skoda Auto,a.s. HID xenon bulb D1S - N10566103 these are 35 W.

Can anyone please give me a dummy's guide for the same...please please ..

thanks alot !!

It's a big job.

Legally they must be self-levelling and have automatic cleaning.

Just swapping out the internals of the lamp units isn't enough.

It's a big job.

Legally they must be self-levelling and have automatic cleaning.

Just swapping out the internals of the lamp units isn't enough.

It's not legally required here.....!!

and the skoda dealers fit hid headlights but they fit only H7 headlights (or something like that) .......... They are refusing to fit the ones I have got because its not bought from them.!! :-(

Anyways thanks for you reply!

If you take the UK/European legislation out of the equation, as you're in India - you'd also need the ballasts and also, as a bare minimum, changes to the wiring loom for your vehicle. As I understand from full xenon upgrades that have been done on Fabias, a complete new wiring loom was required, as the startup voltage for the xenon ballasts to fire is hugely greater than is required for standard halogens.

I would say, based on value for money and improvement over the existing halogens, fit a good quality aftermarket HID setup. There's plenty of information about the forum about this.

Steve

If you take the UK/European legislation out of the equation, as you're in India - you'd also need the ballasts and also, as a bare minimum, changes to the wiring loom for your vehicle. As I understand from full xenon upgrades that have been done on Fabias, a complete new wiring loom was required, as the startup voltage for the xenon ballasts to fire is hugely greater than is required for standard halogens.

I would say, based on value for money and improvement over the existing halogens, fit a good quality aftermarket HID setup. There's plenty of information about the forum about this.

Steve

Have got these if u can please tell me what do I need more and from where i can get them it'll be just great!!!

many many thanks for your reply

It's not legally required here.....!!

Quite! I didn't check your location!

and the skoda dealers fit hid headlights but they fit only H7 headlights (or something like that) .......... They are refusing to fit the ones I have got because its not bought from them.!!

Can you buy the ones they will fit?

All you have is the bulbs.

As Wardy said you will also need ballasts (the electrical supply that gives the Xenon blubs the high voltage they need to work) and actual Xenon headlight housings as I seriously doubt those bulbs will fit in the standard halogen headlights. Thats before considering changes to the wiring loom which may or may not be neccessary.

Basically there are a lot of components required to retro-fit Xenon headlights and the bulbs that you have are only one very small component.

It would be much more cost-effective for you to either source a second-hand set of Octavia Xenon headlights (which will come with the ballasts etc built in but will be very difficult to find) or just get an aftermarket HID kit like this at HIDS4U.

These kits are designed using bulbs which will fit into the existing halogen housings and also have all of the electronics which you will need to make them work.

Quite! I didn't check your location!

Can you buy the ones they will fit?

VVVVVVV expensive

390 USD...!

All you have is the bulbs.

As Wardy said you will also need ballasts (the electrical supply that gives the Xenon blubs the high voltage they need to work) and actual Xenon headlight housings as I seriously doubt those bulbs will fit in the standard halogen headlights. Thats before considering changes to the wiring loom which may or may not be neccessary.

Basically there are a lot of components required to retro-fit Xenon headlights and the bulbs that you have are only one very small component.

It would be much more cost-effective for you to either source a second-hand set of Octavia Xenon headlights (which will come with the ballasts etc built in but will be very difficult to find) or just get an aftermarket HID kit like this at HIDS4U.

These kits are designed using bulbs which will fit into the existing halogen housings and also have all of the electronics which you will need to make them work.

Thanks for the reply......!!

However here Skoda Octavia II L&K comes with these lights from the factory and I have projector headlights even though they are halogen.!!!!

It is possible to retrofit them on my car just need to source the wiring and a ballast to make them work....!!

Anyone with links where i can purchase a ballast and wiring for 35W D1s xenons.....?????

Thanks alot for all your help and replies...!!

:yes: :thumbup:

Edited 4 January, 201115 yr by pz1811

It's not going to be that simple. It's likely that you'll need to change the complete vehicle electrical loom, so it's then capable of handling the start-up voltage required for the xenons. That isn't a simple, small job.

You also don't have the same headlamp units that are required, even if you think you do. If you look the back of a halogen Octy2 unit and the back of a xenon Octy2 headlamp, you'll see they are different.

Yes, all models of the facelift Octavia have projector headlights- but they are designed for use with halogen bulbs as you have said.

The Xenon headlights (which come standard on the L&K as you say) also have projector lenses but they are different from the halogen projectors. The Xenon bulbs will not fit in the halogen light housings. The physical connections where you screw it in will be different.

The Xenon bulbs are physically a different size from the standard halogen ones, that's why companies make aftermarket HID kits as they make Xenon bulbs which are the same size as standard fit halogen ones and so will fit into headlights originally designed for Halogen bulbs.

I don't have direct experience of Octavia headlights but this has been the case for all headlights I have seen in the past.

This is why if you have halogen lights and want Xenons you have two choices;

1- get a HID kit and fit it in your existing headlights (not too bad an idea since the Octy has projector lenses)

2- Buy second hand Xenon headlights. This means the WHOLE HEADLIGHT UNIT, not just the bulbs etc.

Thanks alot man!!!

Ok maybe now i understand what you are saying..!!!

Am going to the skoda workshop tomorrow will see if they can provide me with a full HID kit....

Thanks once again for your help!!

Edited 4 January, 201115 yr by pz1811

I just had gone to the Škoda dealership.....they might be able to fit the xenon headlights into my car...!!!

Yeaaa..!!!!

So hope it is possible...

Fingers crossed

If you can afford to get a HID conversion kit properly fitted than great, it is the option that makes the most difference. However, a cheaper and quicker alternative that just involves bulb swapping is to get xenon gas filled bulbs instead of the OEM ones that came with the car - High Vision. That advantage of this is that it is an easy DIY job (with no legal issues) and a lot cheaper (particularly if you can get away with just getting the dippped H7 and W5 sidelight bulbs on the basis that unless you live in the countryside how often - apart from flashing! - do you ever really get to use full beam?). They won't be as bright as a full HID kit, but they will be a lot brighter/whiter than the yellow light OEM bulbs...

Visited the skoda dealership today...........

Unfortunately the wiring for halogen lights are different to The ones with xenon....

So even if you have the entire set I.e.

Bulbs, ballasts, wiring etc you just cannot plug and play to a halogen headlight set up....

I know it's possible to get after-Market HID kits but I wanted to go oem.

Exactly. You didn't need the dealer to tell you that. As I've said, see Post #4, regarding the wiring loom....

Exactly. You didn't need the dealer to tell you that. As I've said, see Post #4, regarding the wiring loom....

Ya I understand ..... Thanks .....

But u know what he said it is ssible if I find a clip that would connect the original headlight wiring to the ballast ....

The wires are to be cut open and joined to clip!!!!!!!

Any ideas on that......

Sorry, but I don't think you do understand.

There's a massive amount of power required for the OEM xenon headlight setup to startup and function. It's likely that if you try to wire this into the standard wiring loom that is used for cars supplied with halogen headlights that the existing wiring loom will MELT.

Unless you're willing to replace the entire wiring loom, your options are either higher performance halogen bulbs or an HID kit. Both will make use of your existing wiring loom.

Sorry, but I don't think you do understand.

There's a massive amount of power required for the OEM xenon headlight setup to startup and function. It's likely that if you try to wire this into the standard wiring loom that is used for cars supplied with halogen headlights that the existing wiring loom will MELT.

Unless you're willing to replace the entire wiring loom, your options are either higher performance halogen bulbs or an HID kit. Both will make use of your existing wiring loom.

Thanks fr ur help

Wardy, you're far more knowledgable than me by the sounds of it but are you sure about that?

Isn't the ballast basically a transformer that takes the standard car voltage supply and converts it to the 2kV or whatever is required to strike the Xenon bulbs? I only ask as a Xenon retro-fit is fairly straight forward in other cars.

In the case of my BMW all you have to do is buy a complete Xenon headlight assembly (which includes ballasts etc) and plug the existing connector for the halogen lights into it. The conversion to the high voltage is done by the ballast so the supply doesn't need to be any different.

(You also need to fool the canbus with a resistor but thats not really relevant to this discussion).

Obviously it seems as though the Skoda won't connect directly but would splicing into the Xenon connector not work?

I'm not argueing here, it's just I assumed it would be possible going by my experiences on other marques. I will bow to your superior knowledge if you tell me otherwise though :p

Wardy, you're far more knowledgable than me by the sounds of it but are you sure about that?

Isn't the ballast basically a transformer that takes the standard car voltage supply and converts it to the 2kV or whatever is required to strike the Xenon bulbs? I only ask as a Xenon retro-fit is fairly straight forward in other cars.

In the case of my BMW all you have to do is buy a complete Xenon headlight assembly (which includes ballasts etc) and plug the existing connector for the halogen lights into it. The conversion to the high voltage is done by the ballast so the supply doesn't need to be any different.

(You also need to fool the canbus with a resistor but thats not really relevant to this discussion).

Obviously it seems as though the Skoda won't connect directly but would splicing into the Xenon connector not work?

I'm not argueing here, it's just I assumed it would be possible going by my experiences on other marques. I will bow to your superior knowledge if you tell me otherwise though :p

I had a similar experience with my mk5 Golf GTi when I retro-fitted OEM xenon headlamps.

I bought a set of xenon lamps from an R32 and with the help of a Kufatec wiring adaptor (the existing loom plug is different to the xenon plug) the lamps were literally 'plug-and-play'. There was no need for a new wiring looms - the Kufatec adaptor is literally just to allow direct fitment to the existing loom.

The car needed to be recoded to make sure there were no warning lights but they worked fine once this had been done.

Don't get me wrong I am no expert on this but I thought I'd share my experiences - especially as I'm under the impression that the mk5 Golf and Octy II are virtually 'twins'?!?

In the case of my BMW all you have to do is buy a complete Xenon headlight assembly (which includes ballasts etc) and plug the existing connector for the halogen lights into it. The conversion to the high voltage is done by the ballast so the supply doesn't need to be any different.

(You also need to fool the canbus with a resistor but thats not really relevant to this discussion).

+1

Here is my previous car to the Scout.

I swapped the standard halogens for OEM xenons.

The new xenons simply plugged straight into the exisitng connectors.

As above I also had to fit a resistor inbetween the light assembly and the cars wiring loom (£20 off eBay) to disable to the bulb error warning.

Took me about 10 minutes each side, did around 60,000 miles with no issues, errors or melted wiring looms

The experience I have of these sorts of things involves having seen proper retrofits to Fabias. Now perhaps the whole loom was replaced for the sake of long-term reliability and/or a 'belt & braces' approach. But I certainly wouldn't be happy or confident in effectively 'piggy backing' a xenon ballast to the existing wiring loom.

Another way of looking at is Skoda wouldn't go the quite large amount of trouble of having two different electrical looms, if it wasn't necessary.

Steve

Depending of what kind of kit you buy quality of the components vary a lot. If you go for some cheap china kit, then you'll be able to see it peaking at 30amps frequently, because the ballast can't keep a stable current due to the cheap components.

We've had a lot of fabias and octys with retrofitted xenon that got burned light controllers because of this. Wires melting, na not a big problem. The peaks just lasts for some millisek at a time.

The proper way of doing is to use some fused relays controlled by the standard loom connected to the ballasts, of course you'll have to disable the canbus lightcontrol.

Also, halogen startup current ~ 20-25amps for a few milliseks (high resistance when thread is cold)

xenon startup ~ 10 -15 amps. Some kits claim they have a startup current of 6 amps but i've got no experience of them.

Conclusion - it's not the startup that kills, it's bad components that do =)

you can get away with just getting the dippped H7 and W5 sidelight bulbs on the basis that unless you live in the countryside how often - apart from flashing! - do you ever really get to use full beam?).

Surely its the high beam that's important? Most of us drive through the countryside despite living in towns/cities I think?

Or is it all just a cosmetic exercise?