went down to my local skoda dealer for some oil to top up my 04 fabia vrs. they gave me some esso ultra 10W-40 semi synthetic. is this right, as all the threads i have seen dont recommend this oil. the dealer wasnt even sure which oil to use?

Does it say VW505 or VW505.01 on the bottle? Thats iirc what you should be looking for

went down to my local skoda dealer for some oil to top up my 04 fabia vrs. they gave me some esso ultra 10W-40 semi synthetic. is this right, as all the threads i have seen dont recommend this oil. the dealer wasnt even sure which oil to use?

Have a look at the attached file , found on VW web site lists the various approved types , i have the 130 PD Octy and if its on variable service must be the 506.01 , went to my dealer this week for some and they said it used to be the Castrol long life 11 , but my dealer are now useing the Shell Helix long life . Assume that as long as the VW spec 506 .01 is on label they are ok if not its wrong type . You could always go back to them , say you filled it up , and they have given the wrong oil , and demand a complete oil change at their cost ( They deserve that for the error ) should know better .

A slippery job OIL SPECS FROM VW WEB.doc

it does say vw 505 00; mb 229.1, so i presume this is ok?

it does say vw 505 00; mb 229.1, so i presume this is ok?

Be very careful , its easy to get confused on this subject , try the search for OIL , there have been many posts on this subject . If your car is fairly new 04 and you want the variable service , i do not think the oil you got from the dealer is correct , as my service book states this has to be a fully synthetic Long Life to the 506 .01 . You can always check this with a VW dealer as it is a VW Group engine and the specs are VW .

it does say vw 505 00; mb 229.1, so i presume this is ok?

Be very careful , its easy to get confused on this subject , try the search for OIL , there have been many posts on this subject . If your car is fairly new 04 and you want the variable service , i do not think the oil you got from the dealer is correct , as my service book states this has to be a fully synthetic Long Life to the 506 .01 . You can always check this with a VW dealer as it is a VW Group engine and the specs are VW .

... and it's easy to confuse others too.

AFAIK no Fabia vRS's came with variable servicing - certainly my Mark1.5 one doesn't have this.

Hence the correct grade of oil is 505.01 for a Fabia vRS and note the handbook specifically says 505.00 is NOT permissible

(apologies for editing - spelling errors)

I have a bottle of 505.00 oil (Mobil 1 Diesel Super or something like that) in my boot for emergencies, as the handbook says that it can be used instead of the 505.01 oil where 505.01 oil isn't available (although I check my oil regularly, and top up from the bottle of proper 505.01 stuff that I keep in the shed)

I would keep the remains of the 505.01 bottle in the car, but that's been opened and I don't want it to leak everywhere... If the manual says that 505.00 oil can be used when 505.01 isn't available, and I happen to be stuck on the hard shoulder short of oil, then I wouldn't have any qualms about sticking in the 505.00 - it's not as though there isn't 3.5 litres of the proper stuff still in there already...

Does this post make any sense? :confused:

its the wrong weight for a start i thought all furby vRS's needed VW505.01 5w 40

10w 40 will mean it wears the top of the engine out because the oil is too thick to get up there also it's going to lower your mpg soo spending more money

but if I'm wrong I'm sure I'll get corrected

I have a bottle of 505.00 oil (Mobil 1 Diesel Super or something like that) in my boot for emergencies, as the handbook says that it can be used instead of the 505.01 oil where 505.01 oil isn't available (although I check my oil regularly, and top up from the bottle of proper 505.01 stuff that I keep in the shed)

I would keep the remains of the 505.01 bottle in the car, but that's been opened and I don't want it to leak everywhere... If the manual says that 505.00 oil can be used when 505.01 isn't available, and I happen to be stuck on the hard shoulder short of oil, then I wouldn't have any qualms about sticking in the 505.00 - it's not as though there isn't 3.5 litres of the proper stuff still in there already...

Clearly your handbook is different to mine.

My vRS handbook says the following:

Multigrade high-lubricity oils

Diesel Engine

VW 505 01

VW 505 00 a)

a) This does not apply for PDi engines (a unit injection engine).

Multigrade oils

Diesel engine

ACEA B3 or B4

Only to be used in exceptional cases if the oils specified above are not available.

My interpretation of that is that 505.00 is clearly NOT acceptable...

Millers do an oil specifically for the PD engines

Local stockists can be found on Millers website and its cheaper than the VW/Skoda stuff.

Millers seem to have and excellent reputation and I use it for top ups.

Brian

Millers do an oil specifically for the PD engines

Local stockists can be found on Millers website and its cheaper than the VW/Skoda stuff.

Millers seem to have and excellent reputation and I use it for top ups.

Brian

Valvoline also do a special 505.01 oil. It's called DuraBlend Diesel, Synthetic Blend SAE 5W-40. It costs about

At the end of the day if you oil level is below the min mark ANY oil is better than nothing.

But you should for top up use 505.01

As, i said earlier this can all get a bit confussing esp if the dealers end up giving out the wrong oil , am i correct in assuming then that the Fabia 130 pd is on 505.01 and the octy 130 pd is on 506.01 , was under the impression they were the same engines and had the same oil . :confused:

Clearly your handbook is different to mine.

My vRS handbook says the following:

Multigrade oils

Diesel engine

ACEA B3 or B4

Only to be used in exceptional cases if the oils specified above are not available.

My interpretation of that is that 505.00 is clearly NOT acceptable...

Ahh' date=' that's where I'm getting confused - my 'emergency' oil is ACEA B3 rated, as well as 505.00. But it is [i']just[/i] for emergencies, and like was said above, any oil is better than no oil... The stuff I top up with usually is exactly the same as Ross's piccie - it came in a v. nice Audi branded zip-up holder!

As, i said earlier this can all get a bit confussing esp if the dealers end up giving out the wrong oil , am i correct in assuming then that the Fabia 130 pd is on 505.01 and the octy 130 pd is on 506.01 , was under the impression they were the same engines and had the same oil . :confused:

Yes, because the Fabia is on fixed service intervals and the Octavia is on variable (i.e. extended service intervals). However the Octavia could have been set up from new for fixed service intervals if the customer required it. In that case 505.01 oil would be used subsequently. It is confusing!

Yes, because the Fabia is on fixed service intervals and the Octavia is on variable (i.e. extended service intervals). However the Octavia could have been set up from new for fixed service intervals if the customer required it. In that case 505.01 oil would be used subsequently. It is confusing!

Thanks for this solves my questions and i will be on variable untill the first service indicator and then decide what route to take . However just for interest why , if both Furby and Octy have 130 engine , is the furby on fixed from factory .

why is the furby on fixed from factory

Because it doesnt have brake pad warning sensors or the software in the dash for variable to be run.

The Fabia VRS pd, does require VW505.01 oil. This is due to the pressure generated by the unit injector, other oils that do not meet this spec will break down quickly under this pressure, hense VW505.00 "only use in emrgancies" in the handbook.

Try to make sure you have the correct oil to top up with.

Cheers

Guy.

The Fabia VRS pd, does require VW505.01 oil. This is due to the pressure generated by the unit injector, other oils that do not meet this spec will break down quickly under this pressure, hense VW505.00 "only use in emrgancies" in the handbook.

Try to make sure you have the correct oil to top up with.

Sorry to keep plugging away at this topic but the message clearly isn't getting through to some people - so for the sake of not wanting to mislead others let me repeat what I posted earlier - i.e. the exact wording from the handbook - with the relevant words highlighted in red:

My vRS handbook says the following:

Multigrade high-lubricity oils

Diesel Engine

VW 505 01

VW 505 00 a)

a) This does not apply for PDi engines (a unit injection engine).

Multigrade oils

Diesel engine

ACEA B3

or B4

Only to be used in exceptional cases if the oils specified above are not available.

So VW505 00 is NOT acceptable for use in the car at all!!!

The "emergency" oils you could use are ACEA B3 or B4

I accept that some oils might be labelled both 505 00 and ACEA B3 or B4 in which case they would be OK but if you rely on an oil simply labelled 505 00 you might be damaging the engine!!!

cheers for the help guys. i have put the 505 in now. just called the dealer to see what they have to say about their mistake. they have offered me some free oil and assured me the half litre i have put in wont damage the car.

thats the garage just getting out of the mistake they done

you should get a free oil change out of it

I have produced a Fabia vRS-specific engine oil Article here and added Valvoline DuraBlend Diesel 5W-40 (semi-synthetic) to that list of suitable oils.

cheers for the help guys. i have put the 505 in now. just called the dealer to see what they have to say about their mistake. they have offered me some free oil and assured me the half litre i have put in wont damage the car.

They are right. Skoda permit you to use a litre of any other engine oil as an emergency top up.

I have produced a Fabia vRS-specific engine oil Article here and added Valvoline DuraBlend Diesel 5W-40 (semi-synthetic) to that list of suitable oils.

That link lists Shell Helix Diesel Plus VA 5W-40 (semi-synthetic)

I've now been to two Shell garages to try and buy some.

These both have Shell Helix Diesel Plus but it's a 10W-40 and crucially does not have VW 505.01 listed in the small print.

Neither do the other two grades available - even the considerably more expensive Shell Helix Diesel Ultra.

So where does one buy Shell Helix Diesel Plus VA???

And why do Shell make oils with very similar sounding names which inevitably is going to lead to confusion?

Shells website only lists Super Plus and Ultra on the relevant page - http://www.shell.com/home/Framework?siteId=uk-en&FC2=/uk-en/html/iwgen/leftnavs/zzz_lhn3_3_0.html&FC3=/uk-en/tailored/shell_for_motorists/oils_lubricants/helix/product_pages/diesel_products_ga_0110.html - but if you dig deeper you find http://www.shell.com/home/Framework?siteId=uk-en&FC2=&FC3=/uk-en/html/iwgen/shell_for_motorists/skoda/skoda_workshops_0912.html which mentions Shell Helix Diesel Plus VA 5W-40 as the required oil

And why do Shell make oils with very similar sounding names which inevitably is going to lead to confusion?

They aren't the only company doing that! As you've probably just discovered, it is very difficult to find relevant and complete oil information on the various engine oil manufacturers sites.