vrs cambelt

[djdazzy]

just got off the phone from skoda oxford and they said they would do the lot for 400 including the pump

I had a quote from my local dealer a few weeks ago and it was 350. At that price I would get it done at an independent garage - I had a quote for 300.

[s_matt]

i am going to browns motorsport who said they can do it a bit cheaper

[wonkydonkey]

I have just called 4 skoda dealers to check when my cambelt needs changing on my fabia vrs. all 4 said its 80,000 miles or four years. But, i have read on here that most people get it done at 60k? what is the reason behind this and what would happen if my cambelt was to go befor the 80k skoda have been telling me?

many thanks.

Technically up 07/2003 it is 60k / 4 year interval and from 08/2003 onwards it's 75k / 4 years

there is also that wonderful disclaimer of the previous use and service history must always be taken into account

basically it's a guide, manufacturers rarely pay for a new engine if the belt snaps just before the end of the interval, well at least Ford don't!

if you rag it all the time then change it a bit earlier

pete

[wonkydonkey]

Think it is around 35 quid but they also will charge you for replacement VAG G12 coolant which is expensive - told me it was "special" to VAG cars.

It's called G12 plus plus

it's a lifetime fill coolant so i would agree that it is special

pete

[wonkydonkey]

£48 from a factors, or about £55 from Skoda.

Skoda pumps are £41.89 inc VAT for the VRS

pete

[Marc81]

Damn, that's loads cheaper than what I paid. Think I paid around £350 from awesome.

I paid £350inc for cambelt and water pump at my local Skoda dealers (haggled down a bit from their original quote). £199inc + pump seems a fantastic price if anyone can get it!

Marc

[wonkydonkey]

is that all inclusive??

Blimey

sounds like it could be belt only lol

there should be about £150 (kit, pump, bolts) worth of parts on a VRS cam belt job

[national]

£295 Private specialist including metal impeller water pump all pulleys and tensioners Last week

Know it is Four years and UNDERSTOOD IT TO BE 40k miles, the dealer said 60k miles then re read it and said 60k Kilometers

As the car is a 2007 vrs se needed done anyway, and as I am about to retire, will not manage 40k before the next four years anyway :-)

National

[djdazzy]

It's called G12 plus plus

it's a lifetime fill coolant so i would agree that it is special

pete

Why don't they just drain it and use it again then?

[MoggyTech]

Blimey

sounds like it could be belt only lol

there should be about £150 (kit, pump, bolts) worth of parts on a VRS cam belt job

Pump isn't essential (in fact it's not listed in the Skoda maintenance for cambelt job) Parts are £107 retail for belt and tensioner and guide pulley. I would do water pump at second belt change, but not the 1st, waste of money IMHO.

[djdazzy]

Pump isn't essential (in fact it's not listed in the Skoda maintenance for cambelt job) Parts are £107 retail for belt and tensioner and guide pulley. I would do water pump at second belt change, but not the 1st, waste of money IMHO.

Wasn't there a pump problem with early vRS's? The plastic impeller was sheering off.

[XLBaconDoubleCheese]

No that was 1.8t`s i think

matt

[djdazzy]

No that was 1.8t`s i think

matt

Cheers

[wonkydonkey]

£295 Private specialist including metal impeller water pump all pulleys and tensioners Last week

Know it is Four years and UNDERSTOOD IT TO BE 40k miles, the dealer said 60k miles then re read it and said 60k Kilometers

As the car is a 2007 vrs se needed done anyway, and as I am about to retire, will not manage 40k before the next four years anyway :-)

National

It's definitly 4 years or 75000 mile interval on yours bud

up to 07/2003 is 60000 / 4years

08/2003 onwards is 75000 / 4 years

[wonkydonkey]

Pump isn't essential (in fact it's not listed in the Skoda maintenance for cambelt job) Parts are £107 retail for belt and tensioner and guide pulley. I would do water pump at second belt change, but not the 1st, waste of money IMHO.

For some time Skoda

If it's a metal impeller i agree, check the bearings feel good and if they do, do it on the second

if it's a plastic one, which it probably is on a diesel, then change it out

i don't need opinions, i have seen plenty of impellers with blades missing after one interval

[wonkydonkey]

Why don't they just drain it and use it again then?

Because G12 plus plus only came out a year or two ago so you won't have the lifetime fill coolant in there, you have the old G12 or G12 plus coolant which is 5 year max interval.

[djdazzy]

For some time Skoda

If it's a metal impeller i agree, check the bearings feel good and if they do, do it on the second

if it's a plastic one, which it probably is on a diesel, then change it out

i don't need opinions, i have seen plenty of impellers with blades missing after one interval

I thought a metal impeller pump wasn't a VAG component? The OEM water pump has a plastic impeller which has been redesigned and doesn't snap blades anymore. How can you tell if you have a redesigned pump? I would personally rather be safe than sorry later.

Anyone know where I can get a metal impeller water pump from? Thanks.

[djdazzy]

Because G12 plus plus only came out a year or two ago so you won't have the lifetime fill coolant in there, you have the old G12 or G12 plus coolant which is 5 year max interval.

My expansion tank has orange coolant in it, take it this will be G12+ as the car was manufactured Dec 2006?

[djdazzy]

It's definitly 4 years or 75000 mile interval on yours bud

up to 07/2003 is 60000 / 4years

08/2003 onwards is 75000 / 4 years

I don't know where the 4 years come from as the Skoda service manual doesn't state this anywhere just the mileage.

I am interested to know as I saw some stuff on the net saying that VAG in America state a longer change interval for the 130 PD engine - think it was 6 years which would better tie into the service intervals.

Edited 15 March, 2011 by djdazzy

[wonkydonkey]

My expansion tank has orange coolant in it, take it this will be G12+ as the car was manufactured Dec 2006?

Orange sounds a bit odd

Change it out for the G12 plus plus, it's due for a change anyway

G12 plus plus is a lovely lilac colour in case your were wondering

Edited 21 March, 2011 by wonkydonkey

[wonkydonkey]

I don't know where the 4 years come from as the Skoda service manual doesn't state this anywhere just the mileage.

I am interested to know as I saw some stuff on the net saying that VAG in America state a longer change interval for the 130 PD engine - think it was 6 years which would better tie into the service intervals.

All timing belts have a time limit on them after install

Skoda/VW used to be 5 years now it's 4

I can only think it was a bit of a marketing thing as to not state it in the manual, and on the flip side a bit of a money earner now they have changed it to 4 across the entire range. Extend the interval at your own risk.

In our experience it's the 1.4 16v engines that are the trouble makers, they are the only engines we have seen problems with because the plastic part of the tensioner fails.

[wonkydonkey]

I thought a metal impeller pump wasn't a VAG component? The OEM water pump has a plastic impeller which has been redesigned and doesn't snap blades anymore. How can you tell if you have a redesigned pump? I would personally rather be safe than sorry later.

Anyone know where I can get a metal impeller water pump from? Thanks.

You can get metal impeller pumps from factors like GSF, only a select few come through metal from VAG

We still see broken VAG pump blades

Edited 21 March, 2011 by wonkydonkey

[djdazzy]

I can only think it was a bit of a marketing thing as to not state it in the manual, and on the flip side a bit of a money earner now they have changed it to 4 across the entire range. Extend the interval at your own risk.

I have read on the honest john website, it was a "gift" to the UK VAG dealers when variable service interval was introduced as they would be losing servicing business.

[djdazzy]

You can get metal impeller pumps from factors like GSF, only a select few come through metal from VAG

Thanks, I will pick one up from there !

[XLBaconDoubleCheese]

You can get metal impeller pumps from factors like GSF, only a select few come through metal from VAG

We still see broken VAG pump blades

I thought it was 1.8t that were affected by ****ty water pumps?

Matt