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I'm considering chopping in my Octavia Vrs diesel for a 1.8 Yeti. Having moved house I'm doing less miles to/from work and so I'm not so sure the diesel makes the sense it did. How far off the official figures is the 1.8 4x4 MPG? With the Octavia (170CR) driving very sensible (65mph) I can get 47-48 (according to the computer, which no doubt lies!).

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Think you might be better off with the diesel if you are used to fuel consumption in the high 40's. My 1.8tsi 4x4 averages about 27mpg during the week in my crawl to work. On a motorway trip I get about 32mpg. Strangely it doesnt seem to improve if you drive the car lightly? So I use the car using the revs and enjoy it. The way I see it as I bought mine used an ex Skoda UK car at the time a comparable used diesel was 2 grand more, so as I dont keep them very long I can use the saving to buy fuel. I dont regret buying the petrol model but I do have the use of a diesel 4x4 for evenings and weekends which helps.

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Cheers. Interesting read. I've managed to find some people saying high 30's others low. To get high forties in the Vrs takes major effort ,normal driving its low 40's. Where I live I'm about 3mins from the dual carriage way so straight up to 70( ;-) ). My previous petrol vrs gave 31mpg so if I could get somewhere in the middle that would be ok.

The whole petrol or diesel debate depends massively on your annual mileage.

Cheers. Interesting read. I've managed to find some people saying high 30's others low. .

Most of the figures given here are somewhat meaningless because there is no indication whether they came from the trip computer or from fuel fill data. My experience with my 2 Octavias is that fuel computers are optimistic by 2-4mpg compared to fuel fill data. In the case of my 1.8TSi Octavia the computer average usually shows 36-38mpg but fuel fill data says 33-35mpg.

The whole petrol or diesel debate depends massively on your annual mileage.

It does if fuel consumption is your primary reason for owning a diesel, personally having moved away from a diesel for my last car I cannot wait to get back to one. Not so much to do with fuel economy but more to do with driving characteristics which I much prefer. Of course I'm probably in a minority :giggle:

Of course I'm probably in a minority :giggle:

Nope!!

Deisel fuel every time!!

Wouldn't ever go back to a petrol now!!

You've got your words mixed up.You meant Majority! :yes:

I bought another diesel, my 3rd one now. Petrols are fun in that you can rev them. OK the Roomster I have tonight is a 1.2S 16V 69hp, and it feels about as slow as my 1.4CL Polo which I haven't sold yet (or driven since collecting the Snow Monster.)

I know what you mean, the massive (in Elsie's case) mid range, just where you want it for real world driving. Love it. I'll puit up with the DPF issues just for the midrange torque.

I drive mine around London all day - can't understand why it gets so dirty.emoticon-0136-giggle.gif Oh yes I know why, around London as well as throughemoticon-0136-giggle.gif

Mike

I bought another diesel, my 3rd one now. Petrols are fun in that you can rev them. OK the Roomster I have tonight is a 1.2S 16V 69hp, and it feels about as slow as my 1.4CL Polo which I haven't sold yet (or driven since collecting the Snow Monster.)

I know what you mean, the massive (in Elsie's case) mid range, just where you want it for real world driving. Love it. I'll puit up with the DPF issues just for the midrange torque.

I drive mine around London all day - can't understand why it gets so dirty.emoticon-0136-giggle.gif Oh yes I know why, around London as well as throughemoticon-0136-giggle.gif

Mike

Nah, my humble 1.8TSi has lots of mid range available over a much wider part of the rev range. :thumbup: Thats what makes the difference in real world performance imo, especially combined with the power that pulls hard to the almost 7k limiter. B)

I do however like the drive of the CR diesels, particularly the 170 when you get a chance to stretch its legs properly at higher speeds. :)

I also drive a remapped Ford TDCi most days and without doubt Im glad I went for the compromise free 1.8TSi as my choice of engine in the Yeti. Ive already covered over 12,000 miles in 8 months and still the maths is in my favour. Irrelevant of the financial advantage for me, the 1.8TSi is simply the most fun choice for me, and thats what driving time should be all about. :yes:

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Focuszetec, what sort of mpg are you seeing. I saw your holiday overall was 33mpg, with max of ~43. Any idea what's it's like crusing around 70? Been doing my sums and think it would be up to 400 quid a year more in fuel than my current octavia.

Focuszetec, what sort of mpg are you seeing. I saw your holiday overall was 33mpg, with max of ~43. Any idea what's it's like crusing around 70? Been doing my sums and think it would be up to 400 quid a year more in fuel than my current octavia.

On the commute into work which is 10 miles overall - 4 of which are at 70mph and the remaining 6 miles are stop start traffic with traffic lights every few hundred yards I see an overall of 33mpg on the trip computer.

Doing a long run with the cruise control set at 60 ive seen 46 to 48mpg but this has been on long journeys. It settles to 34mpg fairly readily as I hit the motorway and climbs from there. It seems to climb to around 80mph and then settles (iirc just under 3,000rpm). Any higher than 3,000rpm and it depends on the lay of the land ie gradients etc but will start to drop over that speed and revs generally.

Ive always held the firm belief that diesels are only of consideration once they are upto temperature and once bigger mileages are done. As I say, I drive a modern diesel daily and there isnt the difference in costs that some would expect. ;-) Once you take into acount the fun factor and real world abilities of the 1.8TSi, to me at least its a no brainer.

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On the commute into work which is 10 miles overall - 4 of which are at 70mph and the remaining 6 miles are stop start traffic with traffic lights every few hundred yards I see an overall of 33mpg on the trip computer.

Doing a long run with the cruise control set at 60 ive seen 46 to 48mpg but this has been on long journeys. It settles to 34mpg fairly readily as I hit the motorway and climbs from there. It seems to climb to around 80mph and then settles (iirc just under 3,000rpm). Any higher than 3,000rpm and it depends on the lay of the land ie gradients etc but will start to drop over that speed and revs generally.

Ive always held the firm belief that diesels are only of consideration once they are upto temperature and once bigger mileages are done. As I say, I drive a modern diesel daily and there isnt the difference in costs that some would expect. ;-) Once you take into acount the fun factor and real world abilities of the 1.8TSi, to me at least its a no brainer.

I would have had a 1.8TSI DSG 4x4 if it was available, instead I have the more powerful CR140 DSG 4x4emoticon-0140-rofl.gif (not as powerful as yours thoughemoticon-0136-giggle.gif

Mike

Nope!!

Deisel fuel every time!!

Wouldn't ever go back to a petrol now!!

Not even for lighting the BBQ?emoticon-0140-rofl.gif

On the commute into work which is 10 miles overall - 4 of which are at 70mph and the remaining 6 miles are stop start traffic with traffic lights every few hundred yards I see an overall of 33mpg on the trip computer.

Doing a long run with the cruise control set at 60 ive seen 46 to 48mpg but this has been on long journeys. It settles to 34mpg fairly readily as I hit the motorway and climbs from there. It seems to climb to around 80mph and then settles (iirc just under 3,000rpm). Any higher than 3,000rpm and it depends on the lay of the land ie gradients etc but will start to drop over that speed and revs generally.

Ive always held the firm belief that diesels are only of consideration once they are upto temperature and once bigger mileages are done. As I say, I drive a modern diesel daily and there isnt the difference in costs that some would expect. ;-) Once you take into acount the fun factor and real world abilities of the 1.8TSi, to me at least its a no brainer.

Although we love our 1.2, (that was the only DSG available when we ordered), the 1.8 would have been the one we would have chosen had they made a DSG. Frustratingly I see from TP's link yesterday that they may be doing one from May, trying to resist the temptation to swap........

Was it Oscar Wilde who said "I can resist anything except temptation"

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Frustratingly I see from TP's link yesterday that they may be doing one from May, trying to resist the temptation to swap........

IF the housewives that run SUK decide they will bring it here of course...

IF the housewives that run SUK decide they will bring it here of course...

Or househusbands, of course ...

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Thanks for the info FocusZetec. That's pretty much sealed it for me, 1.8 it is. That plus not driving like miss daisy but not driving mad the CR170 gave me 42mpg (according to the computer) today. Think my journey to work is just too short to get the best from the diesel engine (16miles, straight on to dual carriage way with a cold engine).

Or househusbands, of course ...

hmmm If they were househusbands doing part time work there they would have at least had a basic grasp of what a car is. Boys or girls the lot running the party at SUK knows more about font sizes, and Royal Mail stamp requirements than about cars I suspect. Pity.

So there might be a huge HUGE demand for a 1,8TSI DSG or maybe something mundane as MDI for a Yeti but they won't know or do anything in the slightest to try and found out if there is a demand.

Think my journey to work is just too short to get the best from the diesel engine

Thats the conclusion I came to having done the same typical journeys in petrol and diesel cars over time. The 140CR (admittedly in a new Passat not a Yeti) took nearly six miles to start blowing warm air into the cabin in the worst of our winter. Thats half my daily commute gone! My Yeti is blowing warm air into the cabin after a mile. Fair enough, if you compare the brochure figures and specs then the Diesels look to be the way to go on figures alone but to me, in real life driving I just feel the diesel has too many compromises.

hmmm If they were househusbands doing part time work there they would have at least had a basic grasp of what a car is.

In fairness, I have a couple of female friends that probably know more about cars than many people on here (inc myself!)

In fairness, I have a couple of female friends that probably know more about cars than many people on here (inc myself!)

My point entirely!

Don't forget the road tax in the uk for the 1.8TSi:

Band - CO2 - First reg - Following years

J -- 186-200 - £415.00 - £225.00

:'(

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