How often does the rear end of your vRS let go?

Mines really boring, it never lets go (which I suppose is a good thing) even with severe lift-off which would make most cars spin easily.

Until I fitted my new 256mm rear brakes hand-brake turns were a no-go too, the wheels wouldn't lock unless you were doing 5mph in the wet... It's a different story now though.

What's yours like?

I've had some good fun on wet days, certainly woke my passenger up on one journey! You have got to provoke the rear though, but its all very controllable

Note: Got Eibachs and a Jabba RARB.

Quite a few times I've had a slight slip in the colder and damper, slippery weather we've Jan/Feb. Not when I've been pressing on, more like when doing countryside left turns or T junctions at about 6-8 tenths.

As I've stated previously though, it's down to my rear tyres. They're Contisport 1s. They're not up to the cold weather performance of the fronts, 1xPzero Nero and 1x Pzero. Will be changing the rears for Pzero Neros or Contisport 2s next time around. The extra £30-£40 will be worth it for more uniform bahavious wet/dry. S'pose that means I should put the Conti 1s on the front to wear them out.

One thing people stated when I first asked about a RARB. It might slip but at least you get a feeling you might get it back. Without a RARB, it falls/flops and lurches all over the place (on standard suspension).

For those of you with standard suspension and no RARB, DO NOT TRY: brake, trail brake, power on, once the car's weighted up into the corner. The car tries to pitch diagonally but the rear end is still high from the braking and loaded up from the cornering. The car then lurches down and feels... unconnected. Meanwhile the drivers seat bunches under one's clenched butt.

J.

Your really a great asset to the briskoda community Luke hand brake turns, 150mph drag runs, slamming in from 100mph

Your really a great asset to the briskoda community Luke hand brake turns, 150mph drag runs, slamming in from 100mph

That's not strictly true.

He doesn't do 150mph drag runs, it's his roundabout entry speed. :p

Didn't you just have to clear your project thread up because it turned into people debating yor driving style?? I don't think your doing yourself any favours.

Anyhow, do you have a RARB fitted? If you really wanted the back end to go then that may help things. Personally I'd sooner stay firmly planted. If you want to drift buy a 200sx or summat not a Fabia!

Marc

Your really a great asset to the briskoda community Luke hand brake turns, 150mph drag runs, slamming in from 100mph

150....in a fabia

Popcorn for breakfast Garry? Might have to get a pack out of the kitchen myself now

thats just making me hungry now

Edited 7 March, 201115 yr by MattyD

Yeah I have a Whiteline ARB at it's stiffest setting, fully polybushed, front strut brace... People talk a lot about lift-off-oversteer but I've never been able to get this to happen and I wondered why.

Yeah I have a Whiteline ARB at it's stiffest setting, fully polybushed, front strut brace... People talk a lot about lift-off-oversteer but I've never been able to get this to happen and I wondered why.

It really depends how you drive and how you use engine braking. The more you shift the weight forwards the more chance you'll get to break the rear-end traction. Just be aware when it happens as its not as easy to control as rwd oversteer (as you're not breaking the traction with wheelspin, the wheels generally have no weight over them and you'll need to push the weight backwards again ie more accelerator). Unless you've had the "safety" ecu feature where brakes cut the throttle disabled you'll find issues with properly controlling lift off oversteer.

Edited 7 March, 201115 yr by Simonbt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPCGnkApnDU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPCGnkApnDU

There's your answer - get the car behind you to give you a gentle nudge mid-corner

Or you could put a pair of budget tyres on the back, inflate to 40psi and spray the tread with tyre shine - that should help you in your quest to get the back out

Maybe this will help:

I got it off the driving section of the forums.

Pick a large, empty roundabout and just keep upping your speed around it. Or set a load of cones out in a large empty carpark if you prefer. You do tend to have to 'provoke' it though. Which is a good thing, as you don't really want this sort of behaviour to be on tap in a FWD car!

Alternatively trail-brake into the corner, then shift down into second. That should be enough to break traction. Or throw a Scandinavian flick in there as well if you want, for good measure. Tip the car past the point of normal grip levels then there is a bit of adjustability on the throttle to be had.

It will break away and with a RARB it's controllable. As mentioned, rear tyre choice will be pretty key as well. What's on the back?

Need to get a North Weald Limits Day (or similar) organised again, for the newcomers :yes:

It's not that I WANT to be able to do it, I'm just curious as this is the only car I've driven which it hasn't done it. I don't mean to blow my own trumpet but I can handle a car and yeah like I said this is the only car which hasn't let go. I can give it the most savage lift off which would happily spin most cars and it doesn't even feel unstable! I don't really care I just wondered if it was unusual as lots of people talk about the rear letting go on here.

There's your answer - get the car behind you to give you a gentle nudge mid-corner

No, no no, that's "bump and run" and used by racing people on racing tracks. This is more the sort of thing "da street racer" types will encounter. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PIT_maneuver

@ the OP, RARB effectiveness depends on the stiffness of the RARB and the inverse of the suspension stiffness (rear). The Jabba bar is supposed to be stiffer, some say a lot. With your suspension mods, it might be worth a go.

J.

Edited 7 March, 201115 yr by vindaloo