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Im looking for a bit of help, the problem i have is, i heard there was a fair waitning time on skoda diesel's so went into the skoda garage in dunfermline so see about ordering a new vrs diesel hatch to relpace my current vrs. Then the sales man informed me there was at least a 6 month wait, but low and behold he tryed to sell me a petrol with the 20% off the car and the extra's. My wife wanted to jump at the chance but I just can't see my self driving the petrol, I like my diesel to much. all thoughts ideas or the like welcome.

I think I'd be tempted by petrol......I do wonder with the hassles of DPF's and possible turbo failures if they are worth it at times.

Suppose it depends on your usage but 20%/No VAT offer is tempting

i;ve moved from a diesel (admittedly a BMW 5 series diesel) for a petrol vrs and havent looked back been a few weeks of warranty work but finally sorted on Wednesday and its cracking really loving it, had some snow today and coped perfect the BMW would just collapse in a heep at the tought.

I think I'd be tempted by petrol......I do wonder with the hassles of DPF's and possible turbo failures if they are worth it at times.

Suppose it depends on your usage but 20%/No VAT offer is tempting

I was in the same position.

I have been a diesel user for years and I really wanted another one. However after testing the petrol version and since I only do around 10000 miles a year, I opted for the petrol version.

I ordered one 2 weeks ago from Newmarket Skoda in Stirling.I have been informed that it should take around 12 weeks.

I'm counting the days.

I was in the same position.

I have been a diesel user for years and I really wanted another one. However after testing the petrol version and since I only do around 10000 miles a year, I opted for the petrol version.

I ordered one 2 weeks ago from Newmarket Skoda in Stirling.I have been informed that it should take around 12 weeks.

I'm counting the days.

Dont be looking for any aftersales from them they are awful!!

I've made the same move, although I'd been thinking of it anyway as I'm doing more like 12,000 miles a year now rather trhan 20,000 as before.

As I reported here when it happened in December, I was going to keep my vRS diesel estate for a bit longer but my excellent dealer, Jewsons of Oxford, prepared a quote for me for a new one while mine was having its 20,000-mile service - for £80 less than I was paying. So I opted for a petrol DSG which is much the same price as a diesel manual.

Delivery for a petrol was promised as 12 weeks, and 12 weeks it was which is fair enough for a factory build.

I picked up my new petrol vRS estate yesterday morning - so far so very good, although I've only done 110 miles in it. Very quiet and smooth, but although it's new and tight I can feel the lively, torquey engine which this is (very similar to the Golf GTI). It feels quite similar to the lovely straight-six in my 'fun car', an old BMW Z3.

I'm still exploring the maxidot computer which for some unfathomable reason is standard on the vRS with DSG but unobtainable on the manual. I have managed to find how to show the temperature in degrees Fahrenheit - Hurray!

So unless your annual mileage is high, have no fear in going over to petrol: with this particular petrol engine you won't feel much, if any, loss of torque (the strong point of any diesel); and if you are comparing the cars with the same transmission, the lower price of the petrol will compensate for the higher fuel consumption.

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I've made the same move, although I'd been thinking of it anyway as I'm doing more like 12,000 miles a year now rather trhan 20,000 as before.

As I reported here when it happened in December, I was going to keep my vRS diesel estate for a bit longer but my excellent dealer, Jewsons of Oxford, prepared a quote for me for a new one while mine was having its 20,000-mile service - for £80 less than I was paying. So I opted for a petrol DSG which is much the same price as a diesel manual.

Delivery for a petrol was promised as 12 weeks, and 12 weeks it was which is fair enough for a factory build.

I picked up my new petrol vRS estate yesterday morning - so far so very good, although I've only done 110 miles in it. Very quiet and smooth, but although it's new and tight I can feel the lively, torquey engine which this is (very similar to the Golf GTI). It feels quite similar to the lovely straight-six in my 'fun car', an old BMW Z3.

I'm still exploring the maxidot computer which for some unfathomable reason is standard on the vRS with DSG but unobtainable on the manual. I have managed to find how to show the temperature in degrees Fahrenheit - Hurray!

So unless your annual mileage is high, have no fear in going over to petrol: with this particular petrol engine you won't feel much, if any, loss of torque (the strong point of any diesel); and if you are comparing the cars with the same transmission, the lower price of the petrol will compensate for the higher fuel consumption.

I got mine with Jewsons too. They seem ok so far but I have heard nothing but complaints about their associated Ridgeway VW arm. I cant do a comparison but the petrol is a lovely car to drive and can be driven economically when you choose to. I think the diesel will always have that bit more torque for those that don't like to change down but I have a DSG so the gear changes happen PDQ.

Im looking for a bit of help, the problem i have is, i heard there was a fair waitning time on skoda diesel's so went into the skoda garage in dunfermline so see about ordering a new vrs diesel hatch to relpace my current vrs. Then the sales man informed me there was at least a 6 month wait, but low and behold he tryed to sell me a petrol with the 20% off the car and the extra's. My wife wanted to jump at the chance but I just can't see my self driving the petrol, I like my diesel to much. all thoughts ideas or the like welcome.

I have had 2.2 DCI XTRAIL's(3 of them) for the last 8 Years.Last year I changed to a 1.8 TSI Octy Scout with almost the same MPG and a much nicer engine, with great acceleration and very quiet, also a lot less roll on bendy roads.I only do about 9K miles a year and if I went for diesel Scout it would take about 10 years to break even!!!

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from a diesel owner unless you really need the extra mpg go for the petrol.................kinda wish I had as I just do not do the mileage that I thought I would be doing. 14months old and 9600 miles on it :thumbdown:

Diesel is more expensive at the moment and around town the diesel usually only gets high 30's I doubt the petrol will be mouch worse!

If you can I'd try a petrol vRS and see if you can get on with it. I'm in a similar position to you, have been an unbroken diesel owner since I got my first diesel car, a Peugeot 309 GRDT, in 1992. I thought I'd never be tempted by the petrol again. However the newer TSI engines with their wide torque band and torque output slightly higher than power output are meking me think that my next car may be a 1.8 TSI powered car. I'd try a petrol before you seriously discount it.

Ian

I would find it hard to justify paying around £4k extra to pick a diesel over a petrol unless your mileage is very high. The torque in the petrol engine is impressive and very quiet. I drove a mk5 Golf GTI for the last 5 years and had no hesitation in choosing the petrol VRS a month ago.

Unless you will take nothing but brand new it may be worth you giving Victoria Garange in Maud a call if you are based in Moray. They sourced my car and gave a great service.

14 months in a petrol vRS and 11.5k - love it. Although I had a 2.4 v6 audi before, so anything smaller should be cheaper than that guzzler (the vRS is much quicker too).

Test drove both diesel and petrol, had to have the petrol. If you're concerned over torque / performance get it remapped. B)

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Cheers for the input fowlks, im still in a we dizz on what to do. I like my vrs alot and love the diesel engine, what is a man to do lol. what made it even worse was the sales man didnt even price the diesel with any discount.

I've just come from the last 7 years driving vag diesels to a petrol vrs having opted out of a co-car scheme.

The fuel economy takes a bit of getting used to, certainly on mine which is an 06 plate. My 2 litre CR audi diesel was doing 450 to a tank (costing roughly £70) driving foot to the floor, driving semi-sensible my petrol VRS struggles to get over 310 miles to a tank of super unleaded (£75) although its quite good on a motorway run 37mpg. The most I have ever seen out of a tank on the vrs is 450 miles driving sedately on the motorway all day.

I think I will be back to diesel next, the thing is, this petrol car is actually really exciting where the diesels have been more relaxing but ultimately a bit boring - I didnt realise that at the time but I do now.

I'm still exploring the maxidot computer which for some unfathomable reason is standard on the vRS with DSG but unobtainable on the manual.

Not so- standard on the DSG yes, but availabe as an option on manual cars. I think you're thinking of the bluetooth option which is only available on DSG models.

and if you are comparing the cars with the same transmission, the lower price of the petrol will compensate for the higher fuel consumption.

Nonsense. Diesel is less than 5% more expensive than petrol, most diesel cars will do at least 30% more to the gallon than the equivalent petrol. In other words if petrol were to remain at about £1.30 per litre, diesel would have to be at about £1.70 per litre to make the cost per mile the same for both fuels.

Im looking for a bit of help, the problem i have is, i heard there was a fair waitning time on skoda diesel's so went into the skoda garage in dunfermline so see about ordering a new vrs diesel hatch to relpace my current vrs. Then the sales man informed me there was at least a 6 month wait, but low and behold he tryed to sell me a petrol with the 20% off the car and the extra's. My wife wanted to jump at the chance but I just can't see my self driving the petrol, I like my diesel to much. all thoughts ideas or the like welcome.

Cheers for the input fowlks, im still in a we dizz on what to do. I like my vrs alot and love the diesel engine, what is a man to do lol. what made it even worse was the sales man didnt even price the diesel with any discount.

Really it's a no brainer in terms of a financial decision.

If you go by Skoda's official fuel consumption figures, the diesel will be 3.2p per mile cheaper to run.

If the standard diesel is £21k and the VAT discounted petrol is £16.5k, you will have to do about 140,000 miles in the time you own the car to get that difference back.

That's not the whole story as the diesel will probably be worth a bit more at resale but traditionally the diesel is worth about £800-£1000 more than the petrol so you'd still need to do 110,000 miles to justify the extra.

That's if you are a cash buyer- it's a slightly different story if you are buying on finance.

For example the diesel will cost you more each month on finance payments but less each month on fuel. With such a large difference in purchase price though the petrol will always be cheaper by quite a margin.

I had a similar dilema when ordering mine, although I was fortunate enough to order when the diesel and the petrol were both still included in the VAT free deal. There was the rumour going about of people who had orderd the diesel being offered £1000 to swap to a petrol- if I had taken that offer the petrol would have saved me £35 a month on finance payments, but cost me £35 a month more on fuel. As it was I was never offered that deal so the petrol was saving me about £15 on finance nad costing £35 on fuel so I stuck with diesel.

Doubt I'd do the same now though with the difference being £4500!

Oh, and if the delivery time is affecting your decision in any way, I ordered a diesel vRS from the same dealer you are using in December and it is being built this week so should only be about 4 months for delivery- a petrol wouldn't have been much quicker.

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Thanks for the help peeps, but i think im going to keep the car for now. 1st reason is i dont wont a petrol as the prices are going up and up. and 2nd im not waitning for a car to be built then get told it's miles behind is delivery date. it's a skoda not a hand built car. plus if i wait i can also see what the next octavia will look like, and yes i have seen the vision d, but thats just a concept for now, or is it lol.

Thanks for the help peeps, but i think im going to keep the car for now. 1st reason is i dont wont a petrol as the prices are going up and up. and 2nd im not waitning for a car to be built then get told it's miles behind is delivery date. it's a skoda not a hand built car. plus if i wait i can also see what the next octavia will look like, and yes i have seen the vision d, but thats just a concept for now, or is it lol.

hi meta55,

just curious to know what did the dunfermline garage offer you extra? i see you say 20% off but is this just the vat offer on standera vrs manual or was it with extras included in your spec?

many thanks

"Nonsense. Diesel is less than 5% more expensive than petrol, most diesel cars will do at least 30% more to the gallon than the equivalent petrol. In other words if petrol were to remain at about £1.30 per litre, diesel would have to be at about £1.70 per litre to make the cost per mile the same for both fuels."[/i]

Just for the record, I meant that the cost of the petrol car is lower, not the fuel.

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hi meta55,

just curious to know what did the dunfermline garage offer you extra? i see you say 20% off but is this just the vat offer on standera vrs manual or was it with extras included in your spec?

many thanks

The 20% off is on the extras aswell and the car. I would have thought the dealer would have budged on the price when he clicked that i wasn't going to change my mind and go for a petrol, even when we mentiond that i was considering keeping my current 2008 vrs diesel.THE VAT FREE OFFER IS ONLY ON PETROLS NOT DIESELS.

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Im looking for a bit of help, the problem i have is, i heard there was a fair waitning time on skoda diesel's so went into the skoda garage in dunfermline so see about ordering a new vrs diesel hatch to relpace my current vrs. Then the sales man informed me there was at least a 6 month wait, but low and behold he tryed to sell me a petrol with the 20% off the car and the extra's. My wife wanted to jump at the chance but I just can't see my self driving the petrol, I like my diesel to much. all thoughts ideas or the like welcome.

Diesel fuel costs more than petrol to buy, so fill-ups will be cheaper.

Tuning would be more appreciated from a higher revving engine being petrol.

Police use both Diesel and Petrol VRS but I should imagine keep the Petrol VRS for motor-ways for speed,emoticon-0114-dull.gif

with the Diesel VRS being the unmarked covert vehicle.

Not sure economy wise with cars driven in a parallel fashion, which would be more economical.??

The 20% off is on the extras aswell and the car. I would have thought the dealer would have budged on the price when he clicked that i wasn't going to change my mind and go for a petrol, even when we mentiond that i was considering keeping my current 2008 vrs diesel.THE VAT FREE OFFER IS ONLY ON PETROLS NOT DIESELS.

thanks, was this a new one from factory or one they had in the garage?

i ordered a new one from one of their other garages with the vat offer.

I have had a number of diesels in the past, but unless you are going to do an intergalactic mileage or you have got money to spend for the sake of it, this has got to be a no brainer. Look at the pricing structure on new vehicles - the greater cost of a diesel - that's about 800 quid or thereabouts and then factor in that 20% is discounted off the price of petrols. Difference is thousands of pounds. The latest VAG Tsi petrol engines are in a class of their own. Best petrol I've owned in recent years. Loads (by petrol standards) of low down torque too.

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thanks, was this a new one from factory or one they had in the garage?

i ordered a new one from one of their other garages with the vat offer.

This was for a new factory car. Think i might phone the other branch and see if i can play them against each other. then see if i can get the price down further on a petrol :giggle:

Taking the Drive the Deal prices as being the real world price of what you might actually pay for a new VRS -

Diesel £20k Petrol £17.5k approx With DSG but no extras. So about £2500 more for the diesel

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