.......Ok so I've been out in the DSG fabia Vrs this morning and I have come up with this, what do you guy's think.

You come to a stand in the car and the display is showing "D1" and the rev counter is showing 800 revs. place your foot on the footbrake and the revs drop to 700. Now remove your foot from the brake pedel and for what seems like a couple of seconds the revs remain at 700. then they go to 800revs and the car starts to creep. It does it if the car is pointing up hill, down hill or on the flat.

Could it be the hill hold is engaging all the time as apposed to just starting to move off on an incline.

Just to add the car is booked in next Thursday (31st March) for a DSG software up date to see if that helps.

I'll keep you all posted

Edited 23 March, 201115 yr by Auric Goldfinger

Sounds like an interesting idea...I take it you mean 800 & 700 rpm...as ours won't reach 8000rpm!

Sounds like an interesting idea...I take it you mean 800 & 700 rpm...as ours won't reach 8000rpm!

OOOPpppppps sorry far to many Zero's I'll amend

Interesting point - don't forget that when you apply the foot brake, the clutches inside the gearbox disengage. Remove your foot from the brake and they will re-engage. Is this not the reason for the change in revs? Either way I suspect Skoda keep revs to a minimum, allow the gearbox to change up early to keep the fuel consumption figures down, but of course to the detriment of a quick get-away.

Will be interesting to hear how you get on with the software update.

I have come up with this, what do you guy's think.

It frequently gets overlooked that there is a delay with the engine. Do we know for sure that there is a dsg box delay in addition to this engine delay? How can we distinguish between them?

This sounds to me like the clutches engaging and disengaging when you've got your foot on the brake.

To stop the clutches trying to pull against the brake they're disengaged. The vehicle revs then drop to the neutral idle. Once the brake is released the clutches are engaged and revs bought up to pull away/creep with.

Kev

Could it be the electronic throttle control in general? Electronic gas pedals have always had some sort of lag and that is why some people resolve in installing a sprint booster.

This sounds to me like the clutches engaging and disengaging when you've got your foot on the brake.

To stop the clutches trying to pull against the brake they're disengaged. The vehicle revs then drop to the neutral idle. Once the brake is released the clutches are engaged and revs bought up to pull away/creep with.

Kev

I understand what your saying Kev but there seems to be a longish delay before the clutch engages causing what feels like a hesitation.

Could it be the electronic throttle control in general?

I suspect so. I wonder, if there is a lag from both engine and dsg box, would they act in sequence or would they overlap?

again, i have to say, if I do this in my car, the instant moment that my footbrake is released, the clutch engages and the car creeps, there is no delay. (I do believe that other people are getting a delay though, and the OP says its a couple of seconds! not detectable in mine...

again, i have to say, if I do this in my car, the instant moment that my footbrake is released, the clutch engages and the car creeps, there is no delay. (I do believe that other people are getting a delay though, and the OP says its a couple of seconds! not detectable in mine...

There is not much throttle required to creep. If the delay is throttle-related, then your experience is consistent with others.

In sport mode, using the paddles & using the stick, the throttle seems to be on the ball...plus I've got 2 other cars with electronic throttles & no delay. Auric describes it perfectly, it's a slowness to engage drive...I'd bet my lunch money that it's DSG or the hill hold function not letting go. :S

Never had any issues with DSG delay on the VRS, however a 60 plate 1.4 Polo with DSG I borrow had very noticeable delay, which was quite dangerous at the likes of round-a-bouts and such.

In sport mode, using the paddles & using the stick, the throttle seems to be on the ball...plus I've got 2 other cars with electronic throttles & no delay. Auric describes it perfectly, it's a slowness to engage drive...I'd bet my lunch money that it's DSG or the hill hold function not letting go. :S

Spot on Sir

The revs only alter in "D" mode. In sport, trip tonic, and paddles when you have your foot on the brake peddle the revs don't alter

Think i'll probably be driving ours around is S most of the time anyway haha :-)

i have a 1.2 tsi manual box and when i stop the revs are at 800rpm if i wait about 10 seconds the revs drop to 700rpm my dealer said it is to save fuel i thought the engine was going to stall they said the ecu keeps the engine just running

Out of curiosity it would be interesting to find out what fuel and how many miles the cars have done that are experiancing this issue.

ive notice abit of hesitation but i just assumed is the hill hold, i dont consider it a problem, just let of the brake earlier than raising the clutch on a manual before pulling out.

semi related: Ive noticed if i drive on long motorway journeys and knock the gear level over to the left my mpg improves. might just be that the engine is wearing in and the mpg is improving because of this.

ive notice abit of hesitation but i just assumed is the hill hold, i dont consider it a problem, just let of the brake earlier than raising the clutch on a manual before pulling out.

semi related: Ive noticed if i drive on long motorway journeys and knock the gear level over to the left my mpg improves. might just be that the engine is wearing in and the mpg is improving because of this.

So your saying when you get up to 7th gear in drive put the leaver into trip tonic mode and the mpg goes up.........Strange

Got a vrs in order so watching this thread.....

Didn't have a problem on the test drive. Maybe we are all treating the box like an AUTO when it is not an auto its a DSG.

People seem to get the delay when planting their foot from stand still very suddenly.

That may work in an auto but if you just dropped the clutch then pressed the accelerator in a manual car you would probably bog down?

Just my two pennies worth.

This sounds to me like the clutches engaging and disengaging when you've got your foot on the brake.

To stop the clutches trying to pull against the brake they're disengaged. The vehicle revs then drop to the neutral idle. Once the brake is released the clutches are engaged and revs bought up to pull away/creep with.

Kev

But the revs only alter in "D" mode. Are the clutches not disengaging in Sport, Triptonic or flappy paddle mode??

Should they disengage in all modes ??

So your saying when you get up to 7th gear in drive put the leaver into trip tonic mode and the mpg goes up.........Strange

yeh, i did the same journey averaged 33.8mpg with it in drive and then in trip tonic i got 39.8mpg over 109.9miles. like i said it might just be because the engine is wearing in but at the time using the trip tonic whilst on the motorway my mpg was alot better.

Noticed no problems on my test drive yesterday - it had done 3k miles and did purr nicely!

I agree with your thoughts from standstill but I have had this problem on the move when the clutch is still engaged particularly approaching roundabouts.

So your saying when you get up to 7th gear in drive put the leaver into trip tonic mode and the mpg goes up.........Strange

is the original poster of that saying that if you at say 70mph in D7, then switch it over to tiptronic so you are no in 7th gear manual , but still at 70mph that you are getting an increase in mpg.

if so that cant be possible, as there is no change in gear ratio or speed etc