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Have just had my 57 plate Octy L & K written off courtesy of a Range Rover Sport driver who thought he was still in Spain and thought it would be ok to drive on the wrong side of the road. Which to be fair it was,,,,,,, until I came round a blind bend on the same side.

I am now looking for another but am wondering about DSG box.

I do about 40,000 miles per annum (its a taxi) and dont know whether the DSG box will stand up to the use it will get.

My 1st Octy was a MK1 and I got 221,000miles out of my 1st clutch so a DSG has a lot to live up to.

Anyone got any experience of high mileage DSG,s?

It needs an oil change every 40k (so £120 a year for you) but i would have thought it would be fine as long as you aren't putting too much strain on it (same as a manual box really). Was talking to a VW mechanic at the weekend and they have very few problems with the DSG boxes nowadays.

Where did you get the £120 oil change quote? mine's due and I've been quoted £160....

Where did you get the £120 oil change quote? mine's due and I've been quoted £160....

I thought it was £120. Haven't got any prices so perhaps it is 160 :-(

I would say if you are driving a lot of miles then the DSG will be a pleasure to use, especially when it's busy. I will never go back to manual after using DSG. I have no experience of doing lots of miles using this box though

this is my first DSG and the last...... dont like the pause as you hit the throttle to set off

dont like this surging ive had either.....will stick to a nice short shift 6 speed manual

Surging??

When ou set off why don't you put in in drive wait for half a second then pull away smoothly?

Brilliant box.....will save you a fortune on the Knee replacement surgery in the future!! :giggle: I do 25K PA and absolutely love it, my colleague at work has an E320 merc and has had nothing but trouble with the gearbox....my remapped octy VRS on the other hand has been faultless go for it you'll not regret it, the above post from greatdane seems to be the exception to the rule rather than the norm.

I would also go for the DSG if your doing taxi work - lovely bit of kit. Don't have it myself but have driven it and very impressed.

I recently got my new Tsi Vrs with DSG and I can honestly say I will never go back to a manual now. I have been using the paddles quite a bit too and the gear changes are very smooth.

I also have DSG and wouldn't ever go back to a manual now....

its been proven in VW models now for years, 100k + no problems :thumbup:

Got 80k on my golf Gti dsg. It's been pushed very hard, has never missed a beat and is still smooth as the day I picked it up.

We're currently running two cars with 2.0TDi + DSG

2004 VW Golf mk5 now just about to click over the 100k mile mark

2005 Skoda Octy 2 just about to get to 79k

no problems with either gearbox, just an oil change every 40k

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Thanks for all the replies guys, seems like I may decide to go with the DSG box, but has anyone actually put enough miles on one to need the clutches changed and if so what mileage was it at and more importantly... how much did it cost?

Thanks for all the replies guys, seems like I may decide to go with the DSG box, but has anyone actually put enough miles on one to need the clutches changed and if so what mileage was it at and more importantly... how much did it cost?

Hey,

My dad is running a octavia 1.9tdi DSG,as a taxi,he has 260k miles on it now and has absolutely no problems with the DSG,just oil changes.His dual mass flywheel went last year after 170k and the dealer changed the clutch pack at the same time to save the chance of it needing it later,but it was in good condition as it was.Turbo went last week,but as he says after 260k he cant complain,its never used a shock or a cv boot even.His DSG made me get my one,they are brilliant.We use his one to tow motocross bikes ona trailer and a boat and caravan and it makes life a lot easier,He had knee problems before from clutches and now loves the car.From our experience with the DSG,go for it bud,you certainly wont regret it,we havent.

Hey,

My dad is running a octavia 1.9tdi DSG,as a taxi,he has 260k miles on it now and has absolutely no problems with the DSG,just oil changes.His dual mass flywheel went last year after 170k and the dealer changed the clutch pack at the same time to save the chance of it needing it later,but it was in good condition as it was.Turbo went last week,but as he says after 260k he cant complain,its never used a shock or a cv boot even.His DSG made me get my one,they are brilliant.We use his one to tow motocross bikes ona trailer and a boat and caravan and it makes life a lot easier,He had knee problems before from clutches and now loves the car.From our experience with the DSG,go for it bud,you certainly wont regret it,we havent.

Out of interest how much is the clutch pack? I was under the impression they were sealed units and if a clutch 'went' you had to change the whole 'box?

this is my first DSG and the last...... dont like the pause as you hit the throttle to set off

dont like this surging ive had either.....will stick to a nice short shift 6 speed manual

Pause? Is this when going from P to D or N to D? If so then you need to wait a little for it to engage (the same as you would when depressing clutch and selecting a gear.... the throttle also needs to be fed in as you would a manual too (after all it is a manual without a clutch pedal).

Never had surging either - perhaps you have a dodgy unit?

If I was buying new or nearly new with a warranty yes...........outside of warranty with my own cash a DSG+Diesel, not a chance.

I've driven automatics for 16 years, since I had a bad motorbike accident, DSG is fantastic, head and shoulders above anything that's out there and, I would of thought for your job it'd be ideal.

I've only got around 3500 miles on mine so can't help with your high mileage question, sorry.

If you are the impatient sort like someone I know very well, who used to stick the old manual box into reverse before the car had even come to a standstill to be able to park up quicker then you will hate that bit because parking is very very slow. To be fair though even parking on a slope is far less trouble than I suspected it would be.

In that situation and when pulling onto roundabouts or overtaking opportunistically or having a bit of a thrash I would probably still prefer manual. I drive a DSG though and I wouldn't want to go without it.

Surging??

When ou set off why don't you put in in drive wait for half a second then pull away smoothly?

its when ive been going 30 ish and once about 60 ish not when settimg off. engine ok,no codes shown so there saying it picked a too higher gear doing 30,say 5th or somthing.......

if thats so ................what the explanation doing 60 ??????????????????

The surging won't be the box, especially if you are doing 60 as the car should be in top gear and the clutch fully engaged, unless it changes down and the surge could be a miss matched throttle blip and downchange.

Ian

Thanks for all the replies guys, seems like I may decide to go with the DSG box, but has anyone actually put enough miles on one to need the clutches changed and if so what mileage was it at and more importantly... how much did it cost?

Hi, I have 390,000kms on mine.(remapped from new) and the gearbox is still working like a dream. Touch wood.

Theoretically the DSG clutch packs should outlast the manual clutches by a considerable margin as they are not subject to the abuse that the average driver gives them, slipping on a hill etc, so should easily do 100K, Ive run two mk 1 vrs's that did nearly 100K each and had no problems with clutches, even being remapped.

I had DSG with paddles on Mk 5 Golf 170 Bhp TDI, I absolutely loved it. First automatic car I had ever owned. The only problem I encountered was in the winter time, fat tyres and 170 Bhp through auto was a nightmare. I had two weeks with the car stuck on the drive....

I had a winter button which dropped the Bhp to 140Bhp but this didn't help, ended up walking to work ( I can walk to nearest office and start there if I can't get to my own office for any reason)

I guess that it was pretty unique circumstances, REALLY bad weather (think Perthshire had it VERY bad compared to most of the country), relatively high power through 2 fairly wide wheels. I have a Scout on order and after my experiances went for manual though if I lived in Spain somewhere with better weather I would go for DSG without a second thought..........

Probably does not help you but that is my experiance, others on the forum have disagreed with the winter being difficult but for me, with the above circumstances, it was not favourable. I traded in Golf for the Scout and borrowed a 1.4 petrol Civic with manual box to tide me over. Low power + skinny tyres + manual box = getting to work no problems!

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