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I had DSG with paddles on Mk 5 Golf 170 Bhp TDI, I absolutely loved it. First automatic car I had ever owned. The only problem I encountered was in the winter time, fat tyres and 170 Bhp through auto was a nightmare. I had two weeks with the car stuck on the drive....

I've got the Mk 5 Golf GTI 200 BHP with the DSG, no winter button, and some nice fat 17" low profiles! Winter hasn't been much fun the last couple of years. But even with that experience i'm getting another DSG box on my Superb. This time I am going to get a spare set of smaller diameter, thinner alloys with winter tyres fitted so that I can drop them on over the winter months.

Hi Brian,

that would probably be another (cheaper/quicker) option to a new Octavia Scout for people not wishing to change cars, been waiting since December and at present there is no news when I can expect the new car (other than Sept/Oct.....maybe)

The DSG was not THE reason for the Golf being difficult in the winter (though I have had several manual Golf's) Mk3 GTi Petrol and Mk 4 GTi 150 Diesel and I do not recall them being impossible winter cars (had Mk 4 for 100,000 miles).

Even my manual Octy vRS petrol was better in the winter than the Golf, I plan to run the vRS on winter tyres, and see how the Scout holds up on the OEM tyres, that is assuming that the Scout arrives before winter :-) Lol.

DSG box is very nice but, like everything in life there is a compromise to be made.......

DSG or manual makes no difference with 225 wide tyres. You aren't going anywhere in the snow!

I have 16inch winters with 205/55-16 winter tyres and i was overtaking stuck 4x4's in the snow :rofl:

DSG or manual makes no difference with 225 wide tyres. You aren't going anywhere in the snow!

I have 16inch winters with 205/55-16 winter tyres and i was overtaking stuck 4x4's in the snow :rofl:

Have to disagree. My Scout was fantastic in the snow on OEM Dunlops. I just pointed it and it went. Same problems as everyone else downhill mind but uphill and on the flat no problems at all.

love my dsg, never really hand an auto by choice before but would get one again!

As for the snow and dsg, cant say I had any issues in the winter other than the fact the 18's are not great. I found pulling away was no worse than it would be in a manual.

Clutches and mileage issue? No idea only 11k on mine but if it anything like the fabia (103k on the same clutch and clutch unfriendly remap), then it will give me many many many miles or pleasurable motoring!

Have just had my 57 plate Octy L & K written off courtesy of a Range Rover Sport driver who thought he was still in Spain and thought it would be ok to drive on the wrong side of the road. Which to be fair it was,,,,,,, until I came round a blind bend on the same side.

I am now looking for another but am wondering about DSG box.

I do about 40,000 miles per annum (its a taxi) and dont know whether the DSG box will stand up to the use it will get.

My 1st Octy was a MK1 and I got 221,000miles out of my 1st clutch so a DSG has a lot to live up to.

Anyone got any experience of high mileage DSG,s?

The 6 speed DSG requires the 40K oil changes which cost about £100 a time as it is a wet multi-plate gearbox type like a motorcycle. If you went for the 1.6 DSG it uses a 7 speed DSG which is the same type as most car clutches ie dry single plate and does therefore not need an oil change and according to VW it is good for 400,000 km, 250,000 miles in normal use.

The 7 speed actual does 1 mpg better than the manual whereas the 6 speed on the 2 litre does 2 mpg less than the manual round town. This is what I have found with my 2 litre DSG I got rid of last year and the 7 speed on the petrol TSI as well as the book figures.

If you can live with the lower performance of the 1.6 litre diesel then that choice has some huge advantages.(except the price as the VAT equivalent discount is only on the petrols at the moment I gather).

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I'll NEVER have a manual box again!!!

The 6 speed DSG requires the 40K oil changes which cost about £100 a time as it is a wet multi-plate gearbox type like a motorcycle. If you went for the 1.6 DSG it uses a 7 speed DSG which is the same type as most car clutches ie dry single plate and does therefore not need an oil change and according to VW it is good for 400,000 km, 250,000 miles in normal use.

The 7 speed actual does 1 mpg better than the manual whereas the 6 speed on the 2 litre does 2 mpg less than the manual round town. This is what I have found with my 2 litre DSG I got rid of last year and the 7 speed on the petrol TSI as well as the book figures.

If you can live with the lower performance of the 1.6 litre diesel then that choice has some huge advantages.(except the price as the VAT equivalent discount is only on the petrols at the moment I gather).

I thought that the 7 speed still had some oil - albeit a lot less. I assume that this would still need to be changed every four years but hopefully will be cheaper than the 6 speed?? The VW website seems to indicate that this is correct?

http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/technology/transmissions-and-drivetrains/dsg

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