what could or would happen if the fabia vrs engine was not correctly run in from new?

It's life could/would be shortened. Do you have a particular reason for asking? :rubchin:

I dont think many cars are run in that well, and tbh I cant see it making much difference.

Every company car will of been trashed

Every Ex-demo will of been thrashed

Quite a lot of privately owned cars will also of been thrashed

There is nothing wrong with using the gears & rev range, just "try" not to flog it's guts out for the first 1k or so, after that go off roading if you like , just watch the sump, lol.

picking my new car up tommorow, it's a 4 month old ex demo with just over 4 thosand on the clock.

I could think of one reason - buying an ex-demo vehicle... The one I drove had < 1500 miles on the clock, and I sure didn't hold back

I dont think many cars are run in that well' date=' and tbh I cant see it making much difference.

Every company car will of been trashed

Every Ex-demo will of been thrashed

Quite a lot of privately owned cars will also of been thrashed

There is nothing wrong with using the gears & rev range, just "try" not to flog it's guts out for the first 1k or so, after that go off roading if you like , just watch the sump, lol.[/quote']

No company car of mine has been "thrashed" or would ever "of" been during its running-in period (you meant "will have"). Please don't make sweeping generalisations without anything to back them up. :thumbdwn:

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Touchy :grumpy:, your in a minority then as everyone I have met who owns a company car doesn't take it easy. Another sweeping generalisation if I may :eek:.

Tanks for the advise but i have fallen in love with it now and also cant quite find the extra 1500 pounds for a new one!plus the extra for the add on im getting with this on, plus the extra wait for it!. The warrenty should see to any troubles i may experience in the next 2 or so years, and by that time i shall be wanting a new updated one.

Makes no difference. I ran company cars for years, and always ragged them from brand new, right up to 100,000 miles, and never had any problems whatsoever. I put this down to ensuring the service schedule is carried out correctly, and on time. Driving like a Granny probably does more damage.

When I got my CTR I was told to allow breaks to bed in and check oil overy 500 miles for a few 1000 miles!

I belive most engines are factoy run and I know that Honda red line each CTR engine in each gear before fitting to the cars

I guess any damage done early on in an engines life will only be apparant in 5 years? When its on its 3rd or 4th owner lol

Touchy :grumpy:, your in a minority then as everyone I have met who owns a company car doesn't take it easy. Another sweeping generalisation if I may :eek:./QUOTE]

I had three company cars from new - and always ran them in according to manufacturer's instructions...

Touchy :grumpy:, your in a minority then as everyone I have met who owns a company car doesn't take it easy. Another sweeping generalisation if I may :eek:.

I had three company cars from new - and always ran them in according to manufacturer's instructions...

As have I with my company cars - they have always been run in correctly. Once run in, they have done lots of miles but have always been scrupulously well looked after.

The same is also true with everyone else I worked with at my last company, except the sales guys. Salespeople seem to be the worst culprits.

Chill out guys!

I think it's fair to say that most new cars are run in as per manufacturers instructions; the reason I hold this belief is simply because most people spend a significant proportion of their income when buying a new car, and as such will attempt to 'look after' it - ie follow the book.

As previously mentioned, most ex-demo's are definetly not run in properly (because people like me have driven them!), especially performance variants.

I believe it helps to run a car in, as machining tolerances, althoughly much better than they used to be, are still within a range. This means all components will not be 100% mated (eg piston rings etc). The running in period allows these to mate properly, though there is some evidence that hard usage (on a warm engine) will achieve this more quickly and result in a more powerful engine.

There are 2 schools of thought, but I'd think about why the manufacturer puts it in the handbook - a performance car that required no running in at all would be marketed as such - it's a selling point!

the 2 cars i bought new were run in properly, all new vehicles i have driven that weren't mine or a friends have been thrashed mercilisly(SP), my van is now on around 12k and gets driven hard nearly all the time, cold warm full empty it don't matter. and its one of the fastest on the fleet now

When I got my CTR I was told to allow breaks to bed in and check oil overy 500 miles for a few 1000 miles!

I belive most engines are factoy run and I know that Honda red line each CTR engine in each gear before fitting to the cars

That's a testament to Honda's bullet-proof engines I heard a quote somewhere that of the x million VTEC units they had sold, not one of them had failed. Sounds like a "Clarkson-ism" to me, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was true!

Chris

When I got my CTR I was told to allow breaks to bed in and check oil overy 500 miles for a few 1000 miles!

I belive most engines are factoy run and I know that Honda red line each CTR engine in each gear before fitting to the cars

I guess any damage done early on in an engines life will only be apparant in 5 years? When its on its 3rd or 4th owner lol

i remember reading in a car mag that honda had NEVER had any warranty claims for a v-tec engine,give it a good wanging,you know they love it.

My mrs had a Vectra company car for a couple of years which we used to look after like it was our own. If you parked her car next to any of the other Vectras in the company car park you could sure see the difference between the ones that had been dogged. eg chewed wheel trims, front ends that looked as though they had been pebble dashed, chips in windscreens, dismal paint finishes due to repeated use of garage car wash machines (those nasty brush type) etc etc. But driving these cars back to back didnt seem to reveal any difference. Perhaps cars thesedays are tougher than we think and the way that we drive them is not damaging to the mechanical side of things. I dont think i'll chance it though.

When HiD picked up her vRS in sept 2003 the dealer said to enjoy it when asked about running in, and to pop back in 12 months for a service, in the 11,000 miles she did it only used about 1/2 litre of oil and she took the dealer at his word :nut:

I believe most car components are more durable than they used to be, however I do believe that every car will have certain parts which have inbuilt obsolescence to make the manufacturer some money. I meticulously maintain mine, almost to the point where I am considered a "car geek", however I am also a realist and don

I would say definitely keep away from trashing an engine when it's not warmed up properly. Once it's warmed up, giving it a bit of welly is not a bad thing.

Every engine needs a good trashing every once in a while, if nothing else it keeps the crud from sticking

Bedding in the engine is not a bad idea. I don't intend to redline it in the first 1000 miles. I definitely won't drive it like a granny either though, I just don't think I could manage for that long, especially as I'm used to trashing the living cr*p out of the 1.1 petrol

As mentioned above - servicing as per appropriate is the right thing. Never skip a service

It's my golden rule anyway. If you hammer a car hard, not just engine wise, generally speaking, you are well-advised to get that oilchange in, check fluid levels and brake pads and so on.

Unlike that Honda engine, a lot of other engines are NOT run in quite that hard and you still want to bed in the transmission-train.

Car parts are not more durable I'd say. Brake pads are rubbish compared to when asbestos was still allowed. Car parts are made to do their job, no more, no less.

If you've ever put the wrong fuel in a car you'll know a lot of the fuel line will need replacing (if not worse). In older cars you could just drain it and put the right fuel in again (simplified)

on the company cars things, at my work (toyota factory) loads of people have lease cars, which are sold to garages after and sold to private buyers, all of these cars are THRASHED! from brand new, but saying that, when the cars come off the production line they are red-lined str8 away, this being the 1st time the engine has ever turned!

but does it make a difference as i wud buy new but the running in thing scares me, lol

The V-tec bit interest me, I had a friend who killed 2 CTR's, the first one was taken back to the dealer and rejected after 700 miles after it went pop, the second died at about 30K - these were both engine faults!

I think there's some twisting of the figures going on.