After my recent purchase of my Panda colour monte carlo I have to say how poor the fuel consumption is. It's a 105 tsi and to be honest I think my Ovtavia 2 vrs petrol was as economical in day to day driving as I often got around 34 mpg over a working week of fast motorway driving and plenty of town work as well, so it's been a bit of a shock to find my monte not returning much more ie today's drive atround the South Devon coastline returned just 34.8 mpg over a 45 mile trip. Anyway to the main point now, what octane fuel am I supposed to be putting in as I have recenty read some threads on here saying Skoda are now saying high octane 98 is the recommended fuel to use.

If this is true can i expect even less mpg and less power if 95 octane fuel is used I will not be a happy bunny, as although I am enjoying the monte I would have kept my Octavia vrs diesel and even the previous vrs petrol over the fabia as I bought this car thinking it would be at least as good as the diesel but not as bad as the petrol vrs.

Now I know people will tell me 50 mpg is possible and I am not driving right but why drive like an old f**t when you can have lots of fun in a more powerful car and still return the same or better mpg, plus I had a fabia 1.2 70 bhp 3 cylinder as a curtesy car on Friday that had no power what so ever and I think was even worse for mpg than my monte.

Can someone please confirm that if you use 95 petrol you will not have a car with 105 bhp and won't achieve anything like 53 mpg as I have not seen anything that is defined and lots of speculation even my local Skoda garage.

You'll be fine with 95 in a 1.2 TSI. Its when you get the vRS you should really use 98. However, I have heard Skoda saying you should use 98 ron in the new 1.2/1.4 and 1.8 TSI/TFSI engines for better economy etc.

I use Shell VPower religiously in my vRS, it won't get anything else either.

How many miles has the car done? It'll loosen up with a few thousand on the clock and give back better MPG.

Put the best innit you can, I put v power diesel in my 1.6 crtdi 105 bhp over the top? Probably but that's just me! In the 1.4tdi I put shell saver in that, stick to the 98 itscleaner stuff

The car has done 5,300 miles now so should be well run in by now and I have been running it on Shell Vpower for a while now so the mpg is not going to get any better unless I drive it like it's made of glass. My point is that the figures that Skoda saying are very unrealistic in day to day driving and I would of probably brought the Fabia vrs if I had known the real mpg and the fact I have to run it on fuel that's more expensive than diesel. Don't get me wrong I love the car, it looks great and it gets lots of people stopping for a look and many great comments. I don't even mind the poor consumption if I didn't need to spend a fortune on expensive fuel to achieve these figures.

If you drive it hard, you'll get 35mpg no matter what fuel you use. If you drive it economically (does not have to mean slow) you can get the 53mpg. Drive an Octy vRS hard and you'd be looking at 25mpg.

You need to compare the same road conditions and journey or the comparison doesn't work. You said the Octy got 34mpg on motorway and some town work (you were cruising most of the way) and that sounds correct. Do the same in the Montie and then you will have a fair comparison. What you seem to have done is compared a cruising Octy with a hard-driven Montie.

Skoda are recommending 98RON for all the turbo engines, but I used 95 for ages when the car was new and if there is a drop in power, it is very slight. I got my 53mpg running on 95RON with the A/C running.

I've run the car on Tesco 99 lately, which seems to go further than Shell 95, so it's paying for its extra cost. On the recent Cumbria Run (200 miles of often hard driving, on tight back roads) the car returned 40mpg

Edited 21 August, 201114 yr by Mike Wrightson

Vrs2, yeah Mikes right. How many miles per gallon you get is mainly down to how it's driven. Sadly, it won't equal a diesel version of the Fabia for economy but it's the best small petrol car you can buy in my opinion for driveability, and fuel economy. But your car still has only 5k plus miles on it. It will still further improve with more miles, and even give more power too. It sounds as if you may live in a slightly hilly area which further knocks the fuel consumption quite a bit. But I guess you probably know most of this, so just enjoy your car for now knowing it will get better, but in your area, I don't know by how much. Oh, and I've always used 95ron in the TSI courtesy cars I've had and it's always been fine.

Always a difficult one this, because its so subjective. I have a 105 Tsi that I run on Shell 98 V Power, to be fair thats through choice as I dont do a huge mileage and its affordable(just) My fuel consumption is excellent, 50 plus on a run is the norm but I use cruise control all the time and I swear that makes a difference. Sure I stick just below the 70 limit, so yes old f**t does apply but I long since learnt that fuel used relates directly to lead foot Mind you it did take me a long time to learn it, so I do have sympathy with the OP ..I`m going to try Tesco 99 soon to test the theory but whatever you do, avoid supermarket fuel...The Tsi just doesnt like it...Good luck

I am happy to use either Shell 95 or Tesco 99, the car likes both and the 99 is 3ppl cheaper than Vpower.

It didn't like Tesco 95 though.

I am happy to use either Shell 95 or Tesco 99, the car likes both and the 99 is 3ppl cheaper than Vpower.

It didn't like Tesco 95 though.

+1 - Tesco Momentum 99 is what I usually use. Found I was getting more MPG (about 30 miles a tank more) over using Shell v-power which I found strange.

Plus it's cheaper than V-Power and Tesco's closer than Shell for me!

Thanks for all your replies, I guess I am expecting to much from my Monte. I just thought it would be more economical than it's been, I have just driven to Exeter and back a 38 mile round trip of duel carriageway and some A roads with no traffic and only 3 sets of traffic light and i achieved 38.4 mpg using Vpower. I've just put in some normal Shell 95 so will see if it seems to make much difference to both the performance or the mpg, I seriously hope not or I just might go out and buy another Octavia vrs petrol as this car was supposed to be cheaper alternative to my Octavia vrs diesel plus cash back in my pocket from the deal.

I'm getting around the same as you in my Monte living in the same area. Although using the Tesco 99 fuel & getting into 5th as soon as possible can give you much better economy than keeping the revs higher & sprinting everywhere.

Do you know what the tire pressure should be in the Monte I can't find this in the handbook???????????

Edited 22 August, 201114 yr by skodakev

How fast are you going? I'd be expecting 47mpg+ from that trip just by cruising at the speed limits.

Anything over 75mph on the motorway/DC and you can kiss goodbye to economy because of the Fabias aerodynamics.

If you want economy, you have to drive accordingly.

How fast are you going? I'd be expecting 47mpg+ from that trip just by cruising at the speed limits.

Anything over 75mph on the motorway/DC and you can kiss goodbye to economy because of the Fabias aerodynamics.

If you want economy, you have to drive accordingly.

I was driving at about 75 to 80 max on the DC and on the way home I stayed off the DC and came home via a totally empty A road at around 60 mph. I do expect my mpg to get better in September as a lot of my recent trips have been hampered by slow moving caravans and a lot more congested road due to the holiday season. I will have to start to keep to 70 mph on motorways as it's an economy killer with these small engines, but what really concerns me is the town and A/B road economy which seems very fragile if you happen to rev it a little bit to hard when trying to get up to speed.

Skodakev I think the tyre pressures are front 2.0 bar and rear 2.1 as I can remember but the pressures are displayed on the inside of the fuel flap below the recommend Octane of 95 minimum sticker.

Edited 22 August, 201114 yr by Vrs2

Skodakev I think the tyre pressures are front 2.0 bar and rear 2.1 as I can remember but the pressures are displayed on the inside of the fuel flap below the recommend Octane of 95 minimum sticker.

Shows how many times I've refuelled the car,let mrs skoda kev do it most of the time I'd looked all over the door found the weight plate. Never thought of looking on the inside of the fuel cap Thanks for your help

Kev

Shows how many times I've refuelled the car,let mrs skoda kev do it most of the time

:rofl: :rofl:

Edited 23 August, 201114 yr by paully

I was driving at about 75 to 80 max on the DC and on the way home I stayed off the DC and came home via a totally empty A road at around 60 mph. I do expect my mpg to get better in September as a lot of my recent trips have been hampered by slow moving caravans and a lot more congested road due to the holiday season. I will have to start to keep to 70 mph on motorways as it's an economy killer with these small engines, but what really concerns me is the town and A/B road economy which seems very fragile if you happen to rev it a little bit to hard when trying to get up to speed.

Skodakev I think the tyre pressures are front 2.0 bar and rear 2.1 as I can remember but the pressures are displayed on the inside of the fuel flap below the recommend Octane of 95 minimum sticker.

Vrs2...there is something else to bear in mind. When you switch octane ratings, you must stick with that octane rating for at least two full tank fulls to allow your ECU to adapt to the new fuel. Thats how long it takes to make the necessary changes to the ECU settings to allow maximum efficiency to take place. It's an automatic process, but the ecu detects the octane rating from sensor readings around the engine telling it how the burn is going. If you are constantly changing after one tank full your ECU will get confused and won't make the necessary adjustments and you won't benefit. It tells you this info in the manual. But bottom line is if you run a small turbo'ed engine at those sort of speeds anyway, you won't get good economy especially at your low mileage. What you are getting though sounds about right when I compare it with the figures I got from the last TSI courtesy car at those speeds, although that had just 3.000 miles on it.

Vrs2...there is something else to bear in mind. When you switch octane ratings, you must stick with that octane rating for at least two full tank fulls to allow your ECU to adapt to the new fuel. Thats how long it takes to make the necessary changes to the ECU settings to allow maximum efficiency to take place. It's an automatic process, but the ecu detects the octane rating from sensor readings around the engine telling it how the burn is going. If you are constantly changing after one tank full your ECU will get confused and won't make the necessary adjustments and you won't benefit. It tells you this info in the manual. But bottom line is if you run a small turbo'ed engine at those sort of speeds anyway, you won't get good economy especially at your low mileage. What you are getting though sounds about right when I compare it with the figures I got from the last TSI courtesy car at those speeds, although that had just 3.000 miles on it.

Thanks Estate Man for the info, I didn't know that but I have been using VPower now for the last 1400 mile so hope the ECU would have adjusted by now.I did an economy run today over a 28 mile set route which was on an A road with very little traffic with one large hill but the rest is more less flat with no roundabouts, or traffic light just to very small villages with a 30 limit. During this run I didn't go over 3500 rpm and changed up to 5th as soon as possible with no labouring of the engine and letting the car keep a constant speed of about 50 mph and being very smooth with little braking and I have only managed 43.8 which is my best yet but not very good.

I have come to the conclusion that ether my computer is showing an under reading but I don't think so as I am spending much more time in the petrol station than I ever did in my Octavia VRS diesel in which I used to average around 45 mpg over a months driving and that was hard driving, or my engine is knackered or more than likely Skoda's combined figures are just bull **** as I think all manufactures do with their small engines. Yes I am sure there are people out there that can achieve 50+ from a 1.2 tsi engine but they are also the kind of people that could achieve 40 mpg from a cruse liner, but to be honest if I had to drive like I did today I would have to keep a hand gun in my glovebox so I could shoot myself in the face due to shear boredom.

Edited 23 August, 201114 yr by Vrs2

If your driving a vrs fabia mk2 at crusing speed, lucky to get max 40-45 so do get more (slightly) once you give it some right foot pressure mpg will fall like a lead balloon, you've bought a pocket rocket! You've got to run it on v power or similar, the other are fine on the standard stuff, I use v power diesel in my crtdi 1.6 105 bhp because I think it's a cleaner fuel so long term better for the engine, so in theory the vrs day to day mpg is around 25-35 mpg

If your driving a vrs fabia mk2 at crusing speed, lucky to get max 40-45 so do get more (slightly) once you give it some right foot pressure mpg will fall like a lead balloon, you've bought a pocket rocket! You've got to run it on v power or similar, the other are fine on the standard stuff, I use v power diesel in my crtdi 1.6 105 bhp because I think it's a cleaner fuel so long term better for the engine, so in theory the vrs day to day mpg is around 25-35 mpg

Sorry I don't understand what your point is as your talking as if I own a Fabia vrs, it's a 105 Monte Carlo not a pocket rocket, more a pocket rocket in disguise with a supposedly

economic 1.2 litre engine.

Sorry I don't understand what your point is as your talking as if I own a Fabia vrs, it's a 105 Monte Carlo not a pocket rocket, more a pocket rocket in disguise with a supposedly

economic 1.2 litre engine.

Sorry yeah in disguise!, 1.2 Tsi wouldn't bother with the higher priced stuff stick standard petrol innit, if you think of going anywhere near 70 it will swallow faster than a whale on krill

Tesco momentum 99 & if you can eat 4 tins of tuna you'll get 5p a litre off :p

Thanks Estate Man for the info, I didn't know that but I have been using VPower now for the last 1400 mile so hope the ECU would have adjusted by now.I did an economy run today over a 28 mile set route which was on an A road with very little traffic with one large hill but the rest is more less flat with no roundabouts, or traffic light just to very small villages with a 30 limit. During this run I didn't go over 3500 rpm and changed up to 5th as soon as possible with no labouring of the engine and letting the car keep a constant speed of about 50 mph and being very smooth with little braking and I have only managed 43.8 which is my best yet but not very good.

I have come to the conclusion that ether my computer is showing an under reading but I don't think so as I am spending much more time in the petrol station than I ever did in my Octavia VRS diesel in which I used to average around 45 mpg over a months driving and that was hard driving, or my engine is knackered or more than likely Skoda's combined figures are just bull **** as I think all manufactures do with their small engines. Yes I am sure there are people out there that can achieve 50+ from a 1.2 tsi engine but they are also the kind of people that could achieve 40 mpg from a cruse liner, but to be honest if I had to drive like I did today I would have to keep a hand gun in my glovebox so I could shoot myself in the face due to shear boredom.

3500rpm is too high, change up before 3k. You have a load of torque down there, make use of it Do that, cruise at 60mph, take the hill in as high a gear as it will hold. Make use of engine braking and avoid using the brakes as much as possible.

I never said economy driving is exciting, but it still requires plenty of concentration. I don't do it all the time though, it's too boring

If you want to drive the car the same as you did the Octy and get the same or better economy, then you bought the wrong engine. You'll need the 1.6 TDI for that. The TSI is at least as quick, and great for fast driving, but it does need more care to get it's best economy.

3500rpm is too high, change up before 3k. You have a load of torque down there, make use of it Do that, cruise at 60mph, take the hill in as high a gear as it will hold. Make use of engine braking and avoid using the brakes as much as possible.

I never said economy driving is exciting, but it still requires

plenty of concentration. I don't do it all the time though, it's too boring

If you want to drive the car the same as you did the Octy and get the same or better economy, then you bought the wrong engine. You'll need the 1.6 TDI for that. The TSI is at least as quick, and great for fast driving, but it does need more care to get it's best economy.

The 1.6 crtdi is amazing much better engine than the tsi

The 1.6 crtdi is amazing much better engine than the tsi

They're both great engines, but it depends on your needs as to which one suits you. I do mostly short trips, so a DPF is a no-no.

OK comes down to a straight choice..you either drive for economy, which you clearly dont like and thats fine, it your choice after all or you boot it and accept the additonal costs, which may also of course include those that come through your letterbox not more than 14 days after you trip their camera

Life is all about choices after all......