Hi all I'm another new member.

I've been reading the threads on Jabbasport etc. regarding remapping. What is the advantage of this, over say, a superchip? Prices will be similar taking into account I would have to travel from Northumberland to Peterborough for a remap. Remap appears to give more power/torque gains but is that the only difference?

Superchips is a generic remap (not very good), custom remapping is where they put your car on a rolling road and map the car specificallly for the most you can get. There is also AmD/REVO which are removable for servicing

Is there anywhere in the north east that can provide this service?

There is also AmD/REVO which are removable for servicing

Are the AmD/Revo chips easy to remove for servicing?

I'm eager to get my car chipped but don't want to lose my warrantee.

Superchips is a generic remap (not very good), custom remapping is where they put your car on a rolling road and map the car specificallly for the most you can get. There is also AmD/REVO which are removable for servicing

Hmm, there are lots of people happy with generic remaps, eg Revo, AMD One Click etc.... and by all accounts, they arent really that much worse than a custom one... or do you have any evidence to suggest otherwise?

Are the AmD/Revo chips easy to remove for servicing?

I'm eager to get my car chipped but don't want to lose my warrantee.

Then you are far better off with something like a Mr Hoot Digital Tuning box. They cost about

Ive got a standard remap (superchips) and am very happy with it. Cant comment about installing as it came on the car already.

Aren't there issues with tuning boxes making ECUs return fault codes?

Aren't there issues with tuning boxes making ECUs return fault codes?

On resistor mods or cheap analogue boxes yes, sometimes. On digital boxes, definitely not.

Talk to A19 Test & Tune at Elwick which is north east Near H'lepool they used to be good and do the Superchips.

Hmm, there are lots of people happy with generic remaps, eg Revo, AMD One Click etc.... and by all accounts, they arent really that much worse than a custom one... or do you have any evidence to suggest otherwise?

195 bhp and 320 lb/ft of torque on mine .

I wasn't starting an arguement about which is better or worse, I just said a custom remap WILL give you slightly more than a generic remap, FACT.

However, if you have any evidence to suggest otherwise?

Hmm, there are lots of people happy with generic remaps, eg Revo, AMD One Click etc.... and by all accounts, they arent really that much worse than a custom one... or do you have any evidence to suggest otherwise?

I'm with Mr Hellfire, a custom remap has to provide optimal performance over a generic remap because it's specifically tailored for that particular vehicle, and a generic remap (AmD, REVO, etc.) must surely be a superior choice over your preferred Digital box which simply provides more power by fooling the ECU, crudely overriding and/or distorting the information captured by the various sensors. I guess at the end of the day it all boils down to how much you want to spend and what your individual expectations are. Over 3 years of vehicle ownership the cost of a custom remap really isn't going to break the bank is it?

I didnt say that a remap wasnt better did I? So dont try and change the subject

What I was asking about was:-

Superchips is a generic remap (not very good)

Why is not very good? Just because its not quite as good as a custom map doesnt mean its not very good does it.... there are plenty of folks happy with generic remaps.

Superchips isnt even at the level of AmD/REVO (which IMO are excellent), goto a rolling road day and you will notice that most N/A cars dont actually gain anything from a "superchip" or "bluefin", infact when I last went on a rolling road shootout with fordmondeo.org, all 3 people who had their cars "superchipped" (only by superchips.co.uk I may add), all lost between 1-4 bhp. A generic map like REVO/AmD (based on Ross Clarke's car) are very good indeed as these are renowned for being excellent tuners. A custom remap is only REALLY necessary when you have other mods to take into account, so that the ECU map can accomodate other changes, such as exhaust, panel filters, induction kits, intercoolers, cams, head work etc.

Superchips isnt even at the level of AmD/REVO (which IMO are excellent), goto a rolling road day and you will notice that most N/A cars dont actually gain anything from a "superchip" or "bluefin", infact when I last went on a rolling road shootout with fordmondeo.org, all 3 people who had their cars "superchipped" (only by superchips.co.uk I may add), all lost between 1-4 bhp. A generic map like REVO/AmD (based on Ross Clarke's car) are very good indeed as these are renowned for being excellent tuners. A custom remap is only REALLY necessary when you have other mods to take into account, so that the ECU map can accomodate other changes, such as exhaust, panel filters, induction kits, intercoolers, cams, head work etc.

You WILL get nearly the exact same performance on a remap by AmD/REVO as Jabba, unless you have other mods to take into account. I also would prefer a map based on my car specifically, and not someone elses.

Spanner seems happy enough with his, and dieselcar had a fairly favourable review... but I'll take your word for it - it is after all quite expensive considering it supposedly only pushes out 170 bhp.

Superchips isnt even at the level of AmD/REVO (which IMO are excellent), goto a rolling road day and you will notice that most N/A cars dont actually gain anything from a "superchip" or "bluefin", infact when I last went on a rolling road shootout with fordmondeo.org, all 3 people who had their cars "superchipped" (only by superchips.co.uk I may add), all lost between 1-4 bhp. A generic map like REVO/AmD (based on Ross Clarke's car) are very good indeed as these are renowned for being excellent tuners. A custom remap is only REALLY necessary when you have other mods to take into account, so that the ECU map can accomodate other changes, such as exhaust, panel filters, induction kits, intercoolers, cams, head work etc.

Is it not possible to have a superchipped car tweaked to accommodate changes such as a cupra 160 air intake, exaust etc ect, fitted after the superchip has been done?

No because a superchip is a slang word for a ECU remap adopted by the company superchips.co.uk, which is basically a generic remap based upon a set number of other cars to give an all round "increase", I am unsure why they claim such small gains, however I put it down to not knowing each manufacturers limitations etc, and since they cater for every car they are known more as a jack of all trades master of none, I am also unsure as to how much they tamper with boost pressures etc...With companies such as REVO and AmD, although they again they are generic remaps, they have much more knowledge of the VAG product and it's limitations, and hence are able to tune the engine further. A custom remap can accomodate future modifications since it is based upon your car, it can be tuned for every addition mod you make.

I know this debate could go on forever so one last question. Does anyone have any experience of the "plug in" type of modules. As mentioned earlier in the thread these can be had for

Are these things crude and mess up the throttle response etc. or are they a good buy?

These tuning boxes are crude and basically work by squirting more fuel in the engine. This makes the engine run smoother and give you noticeably more power and torque (although I've not had mine dyno'd to see by how much!). Mine was a 30 quid analogue jobby off eBay and I know several members on here and the Seat forum who are running them. They may, however, log a fault against the fuel pump on the newer cars, although it's only because the ECU is getting confusing signals, rather than any damage being done. The ones you're talking about are the digital boxes which are adjustable and apparently don't cause any problems. The other advantage with a tuning box is that you can remove it for servicing, warranty work, MOT, etc should you want to, and can also recoup the cost of it by taking it off and selling it when you sell the car!

How many people could tell the difference between a

Scooby

Are you happy with yours and does squirting in more fuel increase the consumption by much?

Scooby

Are you happy with yours and does squirting in more fuel increase the consumption by much?

Best money I've ever spent on the car, and I actually noticed my fuel economy improved per tank by 3 or 4 mpg

Chris

Thanks for the reply Chris. Once I've used the car standard for a while I'll go your route and get an analogue box and see what the difference is. For

i had my fabia vrs chipped by star performance and i got a little black box which i can swap between the two modes standard and fast as f**k. also had panel filter fitted and intercoller spray thus the car is putting out around 200bhp and over 300lbs of toruqe. poor clutch

200 bhp from a dual system remap & green panel filter? must be the intercooler spray because my baby only puts out 195 bhp after remap, panel filter and cupra intake - i'd imagine if you got a cupra intake you would see 205-210 bhp then as Jabba confirmed it adds another 10 bhp, isnt the star remap a generic one and not a custom one, so the mods you've made cumulative wont have the same effect as a custom one - but TOP job to get 200 bhp, your the first Fabia driver to get that on a standard turbo, get it on the Rolling Road so we can confirm this