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In this post I lamented how invisible the Yeti's front indicators are at night. Member Blum then sent me a link to these:

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item45f3821beb

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Hmmm... I would want them in this position like the DRLs on this French Yeti (on the outer two lower air intakes):

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Those indicators from eBay are flexible so will bend to the proper radius. But how to wire them? I know nothing of how car electrics work! Would it be easy to wire them to the headlight indicators? What would the Canbus think of this additional load?

It might look rediculous anyway so just a thought for now...

Thanks for the post Johann, I hope someone tries this out. :yes:

The only way I can think of would be to piggy-back them off the front indicators, but I'm not sure what affect that would have on the CanBus system

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The only way I can think of would be to piggy-back them off the front indicators, but I'm not sure what affect that would have on the CanBus system

The eBay blurb says they are meant to be piggy-backed from the fender mounted indicators. But since Yetis don't have something as old fashioned as that, the only option would indeed be from the front light clusters' indicators. A techy person will came along soon I guess and give some guidance on the intricacies of the CanBus system. B)

BTW Johann, those are not air intakes. One mine they are blanked behind.

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BTW Johann, those are not air intakes. One mine they are blanked behind.

I know! But that is what they look like so that is what I described them as. :giggle:

The eBay blurb says they are meant to be piggy-backed from the fender mounted indicators. But since Yetis don't have something as old fashioned as that
The blurb calls them MIRROR indicator turn signals and I think that is the clue. They are expecting to replace or use the wiring from wing mirror or front wing mounted side indicator lights. It states
They are flexible and will curve around almost any mirror!
That would not be an easy cable run, from door mirror to front bumper.

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The blurb calls them MIRROR indicator turn signals and I think that is the clue. They are expecting to replace or use the wiring from wing mirror or front wing mounted side indicator lights. It states That would not be an easy cable run, from door mirror to front bumper.

I realise that, BUT my question in either scenario is what would that do to the CanBus? I don't see a difference in running them from the mirrors or the front indicators surely? It will be on the same circuit end of the day and will mess up the CanBus in the same way (or not). It is just that running a cable from the mirrors to the bumper will be one hell of a route (with lots of panels having to be taken off and wires thread through) versus the ease of just going the 400mm or so from bumper to headlight! :smirk:

I'm guessing that it wouldn't cause many issues. I believe (wait to be corrected) that Canbus knows the resistance of the lamps and if they fail then the resistance reduces dramatically. (hence the need for load resistors on LED's) So if you increase the resistance with additional lamps I would have thought that the CANBUS wouldn't care, unless it also applies when the resistance increases dramatically.

I'm guessing that this also applies when you have a trailer attached.

I wait to be told I'm wrong :doh:

I would suggest getting a bulb of the same wattage and amperage and crocodile clipping it to the indicator circuit and see what happens!

BTW Johann, those are not air intakes. One mine they are blanked behind.

They are intakes on mine.

there's a long slot both sides ,below the central strake ,leading into the engine compartment.

Unless they're just fitted on 170 TDI's.:wonder:

It's a good question tbh I don't know.

What I'd do if you did fancy them it buy a pair, just wire them up quickly to a indicator in the engine bay temp style and see if it kicks anything off. Tbh I'd be surprised if it did as the indicators aren't as touchy as sidelights and headlights etc with regards to bulb failure.

They are designed so that you can replicate the latest LED mirror indicators but on older cars so won't be very bright.

I'm guessing they'll be similar in brightness as the ones currently fitted onto the Yeti wing mirrors so I'm not sure of their benefit if you decide to fit them on the front...

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I'm guessing that it wouldn't cause many issues. I believe (wait to be corrected) that Canbus knows the resistance of the lamps and if they fail then the resistance reduces dramatically. (hence the need for load resistors on LED's) So if you increase the resistance with additional lamps I would have thought that the CANBUS wouldn't care, unless it also applies when the resistance increases dramatically.

I'm guessing that this also applies when you have a trailer attached.

I wait to be told I'm wrong :doh:

Doesnt work like that I am afraid.

If you connect them in series then the resistance increases, and so what happens then is that the bulb output from will not be as bright and will be approximately halved so both the LED and indicator will not be as bright.

if you connect them in parallel then both bulbs will be equally bright, but the resistance is lower and could cause the canbus to think a bulb has failed.

its all basic electronics.

The trailer electrics work because an additional relay is fitted and the trailer bulbs are independently supplied via this relay and not the cars brake and indicator system.

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Thanks mannyo. That is the answer I wanted. So a firm no to this then. I'll just have to keep praying when indicating at night that the drivers around me have superhuman powers to see the Yeti indicators through the glare of my Xenons OR that they see the piffly little repeaters on the mirrors.

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